Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


What?

Explain please....

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

...that isn't helped with making other regions inhospitable due over-migration though!

PS: It's the biggest scam ever to make people believe environment protection is a left thing, it never was! It has always been a conservative thing, hence the "conserving".

At last more and more people look behind that green fassade....every genderism, feminism, open-border "Demo gegen Rechts" etc. costs the Greens voters and sympathisants and election percentages...after all what the hell has one left-radical Jette Nietzard (as a good example) to do with anything Green?

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Trump works!


reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/eu-ministers-approve-new-150-bln-euro-arms-fund-2025-05-27/

The approval, by ministers from EU countries meeting in Brussels, was the final legal step in setting up the Security Action for Europe (SAFE) scheme, using joint EU borrowing to give loans to European countries for joint defence projects.
The measure was backed by 26 of the EU's 27 member countries, with Hungary abstaining, diplomats said.

"We adopted SAFE - first large-scale defence investment programme on the EU level," Poland, which holds the EU's rotating presidency, said on X.
"The more we invest in our security, the better we deter those who wish us harm."

The European Commission, the EU's executive body, proposed the fund in March as fears grew among European leaders that they could not be sure that U.S. President Donald Trump's administration would defend them from attack.

I wonder why Hungary abstained....do they believe they will be overseen?

I love the naming: Security Action For Europe :)

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


Climate changes all the time, what we know about Earth history shows it! Only a few thousand years back Europe was an ice hell, even more years back Europe didn't even exist. And the changes go on, with mankind or without it.

We can't stop the moving of earth plates, volcanos, glacial/interclacial periodes etc., but then there is overpopulation, food shortages, the coming end of fossil ressources, poisoning of the environment etc. where we could do something.

And again, it won't be the vegan/leftist Kumbaya-tree-dancers who will find solutions...it will be the scientists, the doer....smarties like Musk!

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....I preferred their ice hockey machine....Krutov, Larionov, Makaron, Kasatonov and Fetisov....hach ja....and off to Random! :)

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


You are avoiding the answer because you know it would be uncomfortable!

We both know that all that "Green" is only a mask for the good old deep red leftist-radicals....they give a **** about nature and their protection or any future saving high tech!

Lets leave it at that.....

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Oh yeah...in Germany they did! Driving a Tesla was kind of a status symbol for a long time with the left-Greens, the political correct upper class....you have no idea!

If Musk presents tomorrow the technology do make it rain even in the desert....tell me again about his "Nazi-Salute" and how you will boycott that invention!

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


The same "Greenies" who rushed to buy them and worshipped Musk, now want nothing to do with both of them anymore since Musk failed to be "progressive" and Left.

So much for their true interest in ecology and protection of the environment with non-fossils....what a scam!

Do they really believe the scientists and engineers and developer who will truly save the world will be all leftist radicals? What will they do then? Boycott every nature-saving invention because of the percieved "wrong" political stand of the inventors?
They will have to, after all "Gender-Studies" and "Social Science" and veganism etc. won't surely rescue our Planet!

Stupid has a name: "Green"!

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...yeah...one can't help but wonder!

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 22 [673]


Don't you! :)

But my...Torqi....the german army has come really a long way!

..telling a crowd of cheering onlookers waving paper flags for the two nations...

*shakes head*

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reuters.com/world/europe/lithuania-germanys-merz-says-nato-allies-determined-defend-territory-2025-05-22/

...."Protecting Vilnius is protecting Berlin," he added, telling a crowd of cheering onlookers waving paper flags for the two nations that Lithuanians could count on Germany....

I hope the Lithuanians feel better now.....but at least Merz is doing "something"!

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German borders!

We found out the hard way that our brilliant plan(s) to make our neighbours responsible for all outer-EU-immigrants didn't work. Our beloved neighbours showed Berlin the finger and just waved the incomers on, knowing they mostly want to go to Germany anyhow....

So...all these nice ideas are for the dustbin....there is not much else beside the ultima ratio securing the EU outer borders...not leaving it to these countries alone, which happen to be on the outside, but paying them, sending troops, arming them...the whole nine yards. Then we could keep the inner EU-borders, the inner EU-travel, the inner EU-trade etc. open....but we are not there yet.

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I'm questioning the power of Brussels....that EU-law to keep borders open trumps national law, even if for everybody visible it isn't working right....is that authoritarian for you?

'89 we broke down the borders...the people celebrated freedom, not at last their freedom of movement....compare that to now, what do you think happened?

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....I've thought about that....the BRD in the 80's was kinda "perfect" for an Ossi....that's what most wanted to unify with/be like in '89.

The BRD of today....seriously....I think the reformer of back then, those who wanted to try out first to make the GDR better, would have more chances.

West-Germany doesn't look that appealing today anymore....I think many East-Europeans can sympathize, the whole West-EU-thingie isn't that popular anymore...no longer such an glamorous Idol to follow unquestioning!

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They can build some "Little Germany's" in some countries already.....where Germany becomes "Little Kabul" instead.

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That doesn't mean anything....german passports are given out like candy!

Also, Hamburg shows that the gov protection measures like "Messerverbotszonen" are just a joke and stop nobody....

Alone during the last weeks we had several knife attacks, even in schools between kids....they become a daily occurrance, and yes I want the old Germany back where this didn't happen...if this is multi-kulti modern, progressive Germany they can shove it!

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [459]


I guess the end of the pull factors like free cost and logis and lawyer to stay in an endless circle till they are allowed to stay even as an illegal would be a good start.

It is reported immigrants are already leaving Germany just because their free money has been moved to an explicit card where they can only get the most necessities with anymore...no longer having the full control how to spend the support money, and they don't like it.

Any REAL refugee, running for their lives, fearing death, would be glad about that support anyhow but no....but so it begins!

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [459]

Baby steps....

The end will be that the national govs get the full control over their borders and immigrants back...I guess it will be the beginning of an outside wall around Europe...or something like it, anything to stop that flood of unwanted foreigners, and there is nothing Brussels can or will do against that anymore.

But as always, the first steps to turn somehing around on its head are the most difficult. After all Europe has moved for decades into the other direction!

Novi, Europe works differently! One Trump in one member state wouldn't be enough....

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....and so it begins! Following my theory that changing election results in the member countries will change the whole EU sooner or later too!

Nine EU countries seek European human rights convention's rethink on migration

euronews.com/my-europe/2025/05/23/nine-eu-countries-seek-european-human-rights-conventions-rethink-on-migration

Nine EU countries have signed an open letter calling for the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) to be reinterpreted to allow for policy changes on migration.

The document was published on Thursday as part of an effort led by Italy and Denmark. It was also signed by leaders from Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.

The signatories, who believe it should be easier to expel migrants who commit crimes, said the ECHR's interpretation of the convention should be examined.

"It is important to assess whether, in some cases, the court has over-extended the scope of the convention compared to its original intentions, thus altering the balance between the interests to be protected," they wrote.

"We believe that the development of the court's interpretation has, in some cases, limited our ability to make political decisions in our democracies," they added.

Their message comes as anti-immigration parties across Europe have surged in popularity in recent months....

In Germany many politicians and leftist parties excused their "Do nothing" approach for years with the existence of EU-laws against a firmer stand on illegal/criminal immigrants...since EU-laws would top german laws.

That has to end and once these decisions go back to the national govs this development won't stop there!

This "letter" doesn't sound "big", but its a clear sign that the high point of Brussels legal power seems to be reached, it has stopped working.

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....astounding what long shadow only a few generations growing up differently can throw...I wonder for the first time if it will ever go away.

How can Europe ever unify if not even Germany can? Maybe we just aren't meant to...

My few morose cents for the night *waves*

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Of course....that wall was not for nothing! ;)

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1285]


I dunno....I sometimes compare it with the "Wende"....afterwards not many wanted to have anything more to do with their SED-past...

Everybody knows/knew the truth but most just try/tried to survive/adapt to the new rules...that is totally different from "not being able to handle it"!

Now I think a real processing of the events is only be possible with the next generation. A new generation not being directly involved/tainted...and that will be so with every big happening in any country, the Corona-Crisis for example. There is no real reprocessing possible with the deciders still alive and often enough still in power...

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Some called it a "Lebenslüge"....with timely distance one could say it was impossible...I dunno either country could have worked with all these people left out...and what to do with them instead?

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Not only West-Germany, Lyzko....that article might interest you:

mdr.de/geschichte/ddr/politik-gesellschaft/entnazifizierung-nazis-in-der-ddr-100.html

....Die SED hatte 1948 auf Empfehlung Stalins nicht nur die Initiative zur Gründung der National-Demokratischen Partei Deutschlands (NDPD) als Auffangbecken für "geläuterte" NS-Kader und Wehrmachtssoldaten ergriffen, sondern auch selbst in großem Stil ehemalige NSDAP-Mitglieder und andere NS-Belastete in ihren Reihen aufgenommen. Bereits 1946 hatte die SED die Aufnahmekriterien für diese Klientel offiziell vereinfacht. In dieser Zeit lag der Anteil an ehemaligen NSDAP-Mitgliedern bei acht bis zehn Prozent aller SED-Genossen. Die SED führte in ihren Kaderakten genaue Listen über ehemalige Zugehörigkeit ihrer Mitglieder zur NSDAP bzw. deren Suborganisationen. Nach außen jedoch wurde die braune Vergangenheit belasteter SED-Mitglieder nicht publik, oft sogar bewusst verschleiert. ....

I guess the situation was similiar, in East and West....to many "has beens", no rebuilding possible without them..

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Asians or Europeans? Just out of interest....

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You know it...I know it....thing is you will never hear that from their former leaders and their current sympathisants! They will tell you that YOU are the bad one, the one with not enough education, the Nazi, the paid agent or just to stupid....maybe even all at once!


I'm not sure about that....and what happened in Sachsenhausen. Höcke didn't deny the Holocaust, didn't he! And I know though that the "Erinnerungskultur" in the GDR was already a different one than the one Wessies are used to...for example Jews played barely a role....not much about a Holocaust, but all about the brave Soviets and Communists...so...


That's the core of the misunderstanding yesterday, I think....why "instead" and not "also"?
I totally support the teaching in schools about the big history....but our Opa's are our own ancestors! Researching their lifes is more than a war crime, both should be possible at the same time!


They didn't start out that way....

...Die AfD wurde 2013 als europaskeptische, wirtschaftsliberale und nationalliberale Partei gegründet....

The old "elites" are as much to blame for their radicalization as the party leaders themselves. I still remember the mocking and ridicule of them in the beginning....nobody tried to take them seriously, that they maybe even had a point....

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Yeah....maybe because that's where socialism always ends.

Again, what you enjoy is social democracy at most, kept in check mainly by conservative rightists....that works. It stops working when the conservatives are moving/being moved left and the socialists taking over...that's where we are now....the end of that left-moving would be Absolutism again, when it isn't stopped!

PS: Sometimes I think Mrs. Merkel was the revenge on the West for the end of the GDR aka "When we had to go down, you will too!"

...have to leave now, till later *waves* :)

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That socialist "paradise" is the big error....there never was one, and there never will be!

All this equality-thingie is just inhuman....totally against human nature, hence never working out! In the end not all have more, but a few have all and the rest nothing!

Why do you never learn???


They wish, thats why they keep coming....


The only way the Left should exist is in the opposition....as Germany managed for a few decades. A conservative, pro-industry, pro free-market economy gov + a leftist opposition to point out the problems and smooth over the faultlines....that has worked out.

IMHO socialists should be kept out of ruling...that never works!