Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


No kidding! According to f-stop they "deserve" it because they get a low hourly rate. So how about everyone that eats brings in a record of their finances...and if you are in a worse financial state than your waiter you get 15% OFF?


And that's why people should refuse automatic gratuities when they see them on the receipt...they depend on people not noticing or being afraid to comment for fear of getting hassled. They commonly do that for groups of over 4 or 6 in the US. Most people I know cross this out on the ticket and write in "tip left with server" or "tip left on table" The customer decides the tip not the restaurant.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

And that was your choice to take such a job. I am not surprised you are so enraged about this...with your attitude you probably got horrible tips. Self perpetuating anger.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

You are out of your mind.

Go ask 20 people on the street if they think a tip is voluntary or required. Ask them if a tip is a fee or if it is a reward for good service.

Also..I am not a roofer but why you think that would be an insult is beyond me...it is hard, honest work. But I guess in your world waiters are the elite.

You said all I needed to know about you right here:

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

I don't have to explain it....I simply follow the standards. If you don't like it get a union or something. You have been brainwashed or just decided because it works better for you that a tip is required. It ain't pal. It is optional and good manners to give one if you get good service. It really is that simple.

I hear people like you ranting occasionally like this and you alienate customers. People here you say these things and they don't want to patronize your business because they see you as an entitled tw@t. You give servers a bad name.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

No you have totally wasted your time explaining to me your misunderstanding of how it works.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

It IS a sign of appreciation. What do you think gratuity means moron? Look it up!

It isn't called a 15% salary supplement fee....or a 15% service charge....it is a TIP or GRATUITY. Are you really that dense?

I also like your classism nonsense. While I am not a roofer I think they work much harder than a server....and to see a server demean a laborer shows your true character.

Why don't you try telling customers that their tip is no longer voluntary and it is a required 15% and see how that goes over. See how people view the isue.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


Are you saying I am a roofer? How could you have the slightest clue as to my job?

See you have projected so much onto me when all I have said is a tip is a reward for good service...this is how I was raised and how everyone I know thinks.

I didn't say I am a demanding, rude, or difficult customer. I am not. I am very polite and I don't think I am above the server. I just refuse to be held hostage to a fee that is supposed to be MY decision based on YOUR service. If you do well you have nothing to worry about. The thing is when you do poorly and are tipped poorly you blame US rather than your own mistakes. You keep trying to belittle me by saying I should eat at lower class places. I have heard other whiners like you say such things to people when this topic comes up.

Most people do not take kindly to others DEMANDING they pay a voluntary gratuity. You have lost touch of how it works and your attitude is horrible.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

I do not agree to that and neither does anyone I know or most anyone I have ever talked to about this. We agree to pay the price on the menu...and to tip well when we get good service. We do not agree that we pay you 15% as a standard fee. YOU are the problem here not me. YOU are the one that is acting like a spoiled child and biting the hand that CAN feed him even more.

Maybe you should re-evaluate your career choice. You aren't really cut out for it since you don't understand how it works.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

No f-stop is an entitled little child. One who thinks they "deserve" a gratuity simply for being alive. He/she doesnt understand the system at all but rather has twisted it into something that benefits them regardless of how they perform. As I said they blame poor tips always on cheap people rather than their poor performance.

You guys are highlighting why I don't like to go out much...you have a bunch of people who are controlling your experience and kind of have you held hostage. If your food is bad and you send it back YOU get blamed or messed with. If you leave a low tip because your service was HORRIBLE then YOU get the blacklist treatment.

Restaurant people are a bunch of whiny tools often...but then that's why they work there usually...they can't get a decent job where they don't have to whine about tips.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


You would lose that bet :) I get good service from good servers and crap service from people with attitudes like yours. You are so arrogant it is oozing out of the screen.

You are shooting yourself in the foot because I tip well when it is deserved. The only people who seem to get upset about this like you are are constantly underperforming servers...they get bad tips then blame the customers for their own incompetence.

Are you really going to keep with the line that you deserve 15% simply for carrying the food over? Regardless of how well or accurately you do it?

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


No...its not. And your lame insults don't help your case. In the US you tip well if you get GOOD service...I do not owe you anything extra if you are a jerk, screw up my order, charge me wrong etc. Maybe you were taught this by other entitled servers but the average person views tips as a TIP. A REWARD for good service. It is a payment above the required payment to show appreciation for good service. Simple.

Please tell me where you work so I can be sure to avoid it. I would hate to have to accidentally tip you 20% because you were faking it but behaving like this when the customers can't hear you.

You are confusing how you want it to be with how it really is.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


That's the same thing I said. When you get good service you tip well..when you get poor service you tip low or not at all. That is how the system works.

If some people choose to tip just because the "poor widdle waitress" makes 2 dollars per hour then that is their choice....but gratuities are a reward for good service system.

Nobody forced them into that job...they knew how it worked. This smug attitude that says they deserve a tip as a matter of fact...regardless of the quality of service...is WHY you would receive a lower tip...customers pick up on that. If someone gives bad service but it's because they are slammed and sick...they still get a good tip...if they give poor service and are an arrogant tw@t they get zilch.

f-stops comments about how anyone who doesn't tip well it a cheap loser are exactly why people are adversarial toward the system often. I refuse to have my food held hostage by someone,threats of doing something to it or giving poor service intentionally are pathetic....if a place understands the good service equals good tips system they are rewarded well and get repeat business. If they are like you guys seem to be they will not.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

I understand it perfectly. And the only people who think like you are wait staff. The normal public sees tips as rewards for service. We are often guilted into it by people like you because you paint us as bad guys if we don't tip you as a standard. You get tipped if you deserve it not because you think you do.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


I do pay for the service...and the prices are already quite high. The difference between you and me is that you think that tip is part of the service. (which it is not...it is a reward for GOOD service) You think you deserve the tip because your hourly rate is low. I do not. If you want a guaranteed higher hourly rate get a different job.

When I have to pay 100 dollars for two people to eat out I am not going to pay 20% more if the service is not stellar. I do not feel obligated to subsidize your salary..I feel obligated to reward good service because that is the system. Yet most waiters have decided they "deserve" the tip because they don't get much in salary. Sorry it doesn't work that way.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

If it's included then it's not a tip. Tips are voluntary not mandatory and you can refuse these "gratuities automatically added" things. Most people don't look that close at the bill, and others don't want to make a scene. It really is slimy.

The restaurant does not get to decide how much you tip....YOU do. Without that being true the whole point of a gratuity is null. It becomes rather an added fee than a tip.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

Hey Pal...I am American and I won't tip there either unless I get good service. You seem to think we are obligated to tip you because YOU took a ****** job with a low wage.

We do not tip you to make up the difference in your low wage. We tip you if we get good service. THAT is what a tip is...a reward for good service...it is not the customers obligated subsidizing of your low wage. If you are not happy with your salary get a different job.

If you think you deserve a tip because your salary is low...and your attitude shows it...you will not be getting one from me.

In summary in the US a tip is NOT a wage. Maybe some servers would like that to be true...and maybe they have gotten used to it...but it is a BONUS for good service not automatic. The only people that think otherwise are entitled servers. I promise you CUSTOMERS see it differently than you...we do not feel obligated to add 15% just because your wage is low and it's slimy of you to try to shame people into doing so.

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Privilege? Hahaha...you carrying the food 10 feet and putting it on my table is a privilege? You need to look up that word as you have it all wrong.

Tell you what...you can go home and I will walk up to the service window and carry it over to my table for free. How about that?

If you are unhappy with how your employer pays you then you take that up with them. I am not "automatically tipping" anyone. If I get good service you get tipped if it is a business where tipping is the norm. Simple.

This is why I prefer to eat in...most service people are tw@ts.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

I am not required to pay his taxes...he pays them from his wages and to say my food should cost 15% more is stupid. If he depends on tips then he needs to do a good job. I am not subsidizing some douche waffle's taxes.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


I don't do "automatic gratuities". I pay a gratuity if I get good service and I find it arrogant of them to give themselves a tip without my consent.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


Yes...in fact I tip even when the service isn't great if it was obvious the person is trying. But in Poland especially service is usually horrible. Veiled contempt and half opened eyes at even having to deal with you. I can't count the times I was treated like crap at an "open till the last customer leaves" pub because the bar wench wanted to go home early or go out. "Open till the last customer" doesn't mean 10pm if she feels like it.

This is the general attitude you get with shops, pubs, restaurants etc in Poland. The markets start packing things up an hour before closing time and scowl at you if you enter after that, wait staff at all but the exclusive places are snotty or adversarial, shop managers have a "you should be lucky I am selling you this" attitude.

If you want a tip be nice, try your best to be efficient, and give good service. Simple. The quickest way to lose money is to be a jerk. But Poles haven't figured that out yet in Poland anyway.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


Would you tip your mechanic if he didn't fix your car right but he "didn't fix it" really fast?

Tips are for GOOD service...

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

Tipping is a reward for good service. Good service is exceedingly rare in Poland and tipping people there in general makes them start to expect it for doing nothing other than drop your plate on the table with a scowl.

UK, Ireland / Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English? [437]

You must have lived in a different Poland than I did. They quite assuredly directed their contempt toward nationalities.

UK, Ireland / Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English? [437]

If you don't want Brits coming to Poland then shut down all the raunchy strip clubs and ***** houses. It's not like they are coming for the great weather...they are coming for cheap, naked women.

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]

Reveling in a victim's pain makes you worse than the wench who used him in my eyes,

Life / For all the black people living in Warsaw, where do you get your hair cut? [39]

See my answer to your asking of that question in another thread.

Life / For all the black people living in Warsaw, where do you get your hair cut? [39]

No. The blacks you do see will be African normally. Rare to ever see a black American there unless he is passing through on business.

In any case it's not common. Poland is very, VERY white.

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]

First it is "whine"...I am tired of seeing you guys spell it "whinge" all over the forums.

Next...most guys do so believing the girl will remain loyal to them so they are spending money on them because they want to as you do when you care about someone. When the girl betrays you then you rightly feel like you got screwed.

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]

You rarely see women paying after a divorce...the men nearly always get shafted on that. Marriage is way more beneficial to women before and after. Men don't get an expensive gift before (like diamond ring) and we sure don't get paid after like most women do.

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]

As a foreign guy with a Polish girl you will always come second to her family and culture...even if you are married.