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I can understand if people don't like tattoos for aesthetical reasons, but the way Torq, Novichok and Joker judge people who have them is not only outdated, but just vile (and stupid)...


It's been honestly years since I have encountered such an opinion. And yes, tattoos are getting increasingly popular and sometimes I'm surprised at what kind of people have them - I guess I still have some stereotypes myself lol 🤔


Huh, I didn't know that, I only read a few posts on this thread yesterday, I haven't been reading PF for a while now... I guess you've drawn me here telepathically :)))


I wouldn't go that far, but thanks :D ;D

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That clearly wasn't a "joke".


Still bullsh1t, imho. Just like your 99% estimate. I'm really curious how did you get that percentage? Do you deal with "dregs of society" so often? Because the only people I personally know of having tattoos are far away from any "patologia". So are you basing this on personal experience, real life observations or what you see on TV or what?


Exactly. But you would prejudge them just based on the fact that they have tattoos. Just like Joker and Novichok would judge any woman just based on her having a tattoo. And that's stupid and outdated.


And how could I forget about firefighters, of course (it would be funny if Novichok was saved by a firefighter or a police officer with a tattoo one day :)):

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You're not such a person though. Such a person wouldn't call his female therapist a "c*nt" behind her back, because she told you to cut down on writing on PF. Only an idiot from patologia społeczna would behave like that. 🤨


Still a stupid, generalising statement. Makes no difference.


Where did you get the data that 99% who have tattoos are patologia? Are my cousins patologia too? lol Or do they belong to that 1%? Do chefs and police officers belong to that 99% of "patologia" or to that 1%?


That 99% is total bullsh1t though that you took out of your ass :)))

You wrote that "Any sort of a tattoo reeks of patologia społeczna" which is simply untrue and a stupid thing to say.

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Since when sharing an opinion is a "typical patologia response"? :D Your comparison was retarded, so... 🤔

And would you like me to remind you what kind of language you yourself were using on this very forum, Mr Not-so-gentlemanly? :)))


Because you made a generalising idiotic statement about men with tattoos and tattoos are pretty popular in the military?


And those who are soldiers - how would you call them? "Idiots"? "Patologia społeczna"?

Also, anyway, I wasn't "fixating" on military - I mentioned that tattoos are also popular among chefs and police officers. They are all "dregs of society", according to you? Tomasz Deker too? lol

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Here you have an example - as you can see this guy served in both JWK and then later in GROM:

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Off-Topic / What is a woman? [809]

@Novichok, I watched a Polish cooking TV show run by Tomasz Deker - I've noticed he has tattoos on his forearms (like many chefs). He also got the title of World Master confectioner. So I think you know the answer - I don't care in the slightest if someone has tattoos or not - I only care if they're good at their job. You really have outdated views on tattoos.

And there are no two World Masters at a given year - there's only one winner, so, no, it wouldn't be equal.

Btw, I somehow doubt that Deker is wearing Adidas tracksuits and is listening to Disco Polo ;D And I bet he consumes something more than schabowy and Tyskie beer ;D


Why everything has to be "grand/big" with you Americans? :D You don't deserve any grandiosity lol It's just a (temporary) come back - get over yourself :)))


You'd have to actually talk to people you clearly normally don't talk to in real life due to your prejudices though. Btw, you can get to know stuff about people by talking to them on the internet too. Or over a phone, by writing letters, e-mails lol There are all kinds of ways of communication, you know? :D But, still, even then you'd have to actually listen, be willing to learn.

Novichok keeps sounding like he's never really communicated with many people at all and doesn't know or understand much about humans. And this observation has nothing to do with my ego and you don't have to be a philosopher or full-time anthropologist to notice that there's something wrong with him lol

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So, Joker, do men with tattoos lack class or not? :D Spell it out already, you chicken!

And another question for you - are you one of those men who go around social media and tell random women that you think they're ugly or that you wouldn't have sex with them or that noone would rape them even though they didn't ask you for an opinion? I mean, I hope that you're not THAT retarded and full of yourself, but who knows... 🤔


You are seriously retarded.


I wasn't talking just about American soldiers - I was talking about Polish soldiers too ;D 🤦 Under what kind of rock are you living??:

gloswielkopolski.pl/rewolucja-kulturowa-w-wojsku-polskim-chodzi-o-tatuaze-i-zarost-otrzymuje-setki-maili-z-podziekowaniami-od-zolnierzy/ar/c11p2-26671939

Naval himself has his blood type tattoed on his arm, btw. He's an awarded former GROM soldier with 14 years of service, bestselling book author, security expert, lecturer, volunteer at Warsaw Rising Museum, supporting charities, taking part in running Grom Challenge, had his own TV show, is currently hired by Polish government, etc. But for keyboard warrior Torq he's "patologia społeczna" (dregs of society) ;D 🤦

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@Novichok, well, I still like stars, star patterns and stargazing, so if I got that tattoo back then I wouldn't regret it now. I guess I always had other means of expressing myself though - through drawing and painting and so I didn't really need getting a tattoo that much for that.

@Joker, and what's the point of you showing me (or whom exactly) stupid or lame tattoo ideas? On one tattoo show I've seen a guy with a d1ck tattoo lol (obviously he wanted to get it removed). Are there stupid people with stupid/offensive/ugly tattoos? Yes, they are. But there are also people with stunning or touching/meaningful tattoos. You see, people are different (I know, a shocking discovery it must be for you, old padawan lol).


...and I explained humans to you and Novichok by my example (among others - watch that video I posted). You should be grateful, considering how clueless and prejudiced you are about your fellow humans. 🤔


I guess I needed my monthly fix of kicking the butts of stupid, mentally disgusting people :) 🧐 And to keep myself awake lol, because I needed to finish something 🥱 I'm done now though :)))


Tell that to that father who honoured his daughter's fight with cancer with a tattoo... You people are so stupid and mentally disgusting/off-putting... I would so much prefer a guy like that father over someone like you/Joker/Novichok o_O 🤮

Btw, there's a lot of "patologia społeczna" among soldiers then lol The "bone frog" tattoo comes to mind, for example. Navy Seals get that tattoo to honour fallen Seals. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give the slightest sh1t what such keyboard warriors like you think about it ;D

And I think I have a new way of detecting stupid assh0les now - asking them what they think about tattoos :D 🧐

Have you simpletons heard of this "patologia społeczna" of wedding henna tattoos? :D Those are not permament, but still - tattoos. On women :D Very traditional - part of Indian and Arabic culture (and some others, I guess?):

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At least I don't bore people when I say nothing :)))

But you know what, it's your lucky day lol The topic of tattoos is kind of close to my heart, because I'm interested in art and I view tattoos as a form of art, so I'll entertain you for a bit :)


Do they tough? All of them? All kinds of tattoos?

Of course not.

Just like with many other topics, you're ignorant/clueless also about tattoos.

When I was young I enjoyed watching such TV shows like "LA Ink" and "Miami Ink" and thanks to that I learned that people get tattoos for all kinds of reasons. Some (women) get them because they think they look pretty, others because they think they look cool and people in general often use them as a way to express themselves. But also many people would come to honour or show love for their close ones - living or dead. Parents of both sexes would get portraits or names of their kids, adult people would honour the memory of their parents who passed away and so on.

For example, here this guy wanted to mark his little daughter's victory over cancer with a tattoo:



Did he do it to look "tough"? I don't think so lol 🙄🤦 His little daughter is definitely one tough warrior though and that tattoo honoured that, imho.


People don't get tattoos, because they're on some kind of "mission" lol 😂 🤦
And tattoos don't make women look "though" or "like sluts". Remember those tattoos I posted on the previous page? Flowers aren't "though" or "slutty" - they're beautiful and feminine.

There was a time during watching "LA Ink" when I was toying with the thought of getting some small, elegant tattoo maybe somewhere not visible. Like a few small stars, for example, or a star constellation of my Zodiac sign, because I really like stars, star patterns and stargazing. Obviously, I thought it would look pretty and cool, not "tough" or "slutty". 🙄 And me thinking about getting a cute tattoo of stars obviously didn't make me a "slut" - I was a literal VIRGIN at that time, you idiot, and a religious one at that.🤦 The reason I didn't decide to have it was because tattoos are so permanent and I was afraid I would get bored of it. If tattoos were like clothes and you could change them whenever you like I'd definitely have some fun with them, the way women have fun with clothes and make up :)

Also, when I was a kid we would get those temporary "tattoos" from magazines for kids or teens - roses, hearts, patterns and so on and from what I remember only girls wore them. Yeah, we little girls looked so "tough" and "slutty" with those tattoos... ;D 🙄 Idiot... *sigh* 🤦 What kind of planet do you live on? Is this some kind of alternate universe? Inny stan świadomości?? 😂

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@Joker, I've spent those words, because I haven't discussed this topic before and finally I decided to "unload" my opinion upon you, like you're doing it to people on this forum on regular basis :)


Don't flatter yourself lol I haven't read PF for a month, I came back today and I see the same old crap again - visiting this forum is like living in that movie "Groundhog Day" lol You seriously don't realise how repetitive, boring and tiresome you two are? So what if your comments are short if you write the same thing all the time? 🙄 Is that even normal? 🧐

Btw, you haven't answered my question - do men with tattoos lack class too? :)))


I sure hope I'm "useless" to you then :D 👍


Why would I do that? This forum doesn't deserve my time and effort, I've spent too much of those today on here already anyway.

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According to research married men live longer and are happier than single men. Try again lol 🤦

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@Joker, I've noticed only right-wing men keep banging about those tattoos (including on this forum) as if everybody cared about their preferences lol Are you and Novichok human incarnations of broken records? ;D Why do you think we care whether you like tattoos on women? Why do you keep writing about it again and again? Are you that boring and have nothing more interesting to say? 😂🙄

And you can have no tattoos and no class (like you and Novichok and many, many right-wing men) and have tattoos and be a woman and a man with class (and what's even more important - a good person).

Btw, do you think men with tattoos have no class either? I'm sooo honestly interested to know your preference in this regard :D

@Novichok, men who think women with tattoos are sluts - morons. We have clarity now :D


You can say the same about skin in general though. And the right-wing men who hate women with tattoos are usually the same men who think women "expire" after a certain age, so they won't view an aging woman (with an aging skin lol) as a woman anyway. So who cares what such shallow men think? 🤨


lol


Only if this guy is hot himself.


Why is that? I guess you have some kind of stereotype concerning women with tattoos? I sometimes forget that Joker is a boomer and you are like... ancient lol

Times change. I remember the time in Poland when no mother would want a tattooed guy for a husband for her daughter, because tattoos were associated with being in prison. Nowadays even Polish cops have tattoos. You're really old (and stupid) lol


Beautiful! Even as standalone drawings those would be beautiful. Those are works of art :)

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What Mother Nature wanted in regards to men then? Do you know? :) Btw, humans tattooted themselves for thousands of years, so... 🤔


Right-wing men and their sad life problems lol

I don't have tattoos and I don't plan to have any, but I realise there are a lot of beautiful tattoos out there that can look pretty hot too on a woman. I've noticed that right-wing men have a problem with understanding that other men can have other tastes than them. For example, my young, handsome, well-built cousin who has tattoos himself had (or still has, I don't know, girls like him a lot lol) a stunning girlfriend (and I mean a really stunning beauty) who had tattoos too.

Not everything is about YOU and your tastes. You don't like tattoos? Then stick to your non-tattoed wife and don't be so concerned what other women look like - it's not your business anyway, since you're married. 🤔

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Yes, it looks like the childlike creature wants to get that ball from the bigger creature (which the bigger one is hiding behind its back).

@AntV, my first impression when I looked at this painting was "What a misogynist painting..." I checked museum's internet site and it looks like I was right with my first impression - from the description:

"In Zier's allegorical depiction her feminity itself and her sensuality is associated with sin, and in this biblical context at that - the greatest sin and with the most tragic consequences."

Why would you post such a painting? You don't like women? 🤔

As opposed to Zier's misogynist view of a woman I think this is the real depiction of Eve, since in Hebrew the name "Eve" (Havah) means "life giver" and she is the mother of all humankind:

"Multitasking" by Ricardo Mujica (101.6 x 76.2 cms/40 x 30 ins, oil painting) depicts his wife and daughter:

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@Novichok, I'm just reporting what's happening, calm down ;D 🤦

(Btw, whoever tried to stop me from writing by f*cking with my browser - you failed, as you can see ;D)

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An emergency session of the UN Security Council for the first time in history requested by Poland is taking place right now:

theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/11/poland-says-un-will-hold-emergency-meeting-after-russian-drone-incursions

You can watch it live:

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@jon357, yup.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were some MAGA maniacs willing to believe him though, but I'm guessing those would have to be some severe headcases like Novichok probably.


Also, what about the photos of the damage inside the house? "Storm" did that too, Velund? What is your "search by image" telling you about those photos? :D:

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I don't know what you're talking about - I used the option "Szukaj z obiektywem Google" and it found no such thing. 🤨


I gave you a video with interviews with people living in Wyryki (with their names and surnames given, including the headmaster of the local school) and they are saying that they heard a loud bang/explosion that woke up everyone in the morning and there's no word of the house being damaged by any storm, you pathetic moron ;D


I've seen those videos and there were no bodies "moving" lol

You know what, Velund, I'm starting to think you don't believe the bullsh1t you're spewing. You must be repeating those lies on purpose, because I'm not buying that you're that stupid.


So?

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And here you have again an interview with the owner of the house - he's saying that the fake info is bullsh1t and that there has been no storm in Wyryki for the last three months:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/dron-zniszczyl-mu-dom-rozprawia-sie-z-teoriami-spiskowymi-7199403174337152a

I'd like to stress that the investigation is ongoing and they're not sure yet what hit the house - whether it was a drone, remains of a drone or fragments of the missile from the fighter jet and if the drone has been shot down at all.

In the article there's also an interview with a nature's photographer Tomasz Kawiak who was taking photos of deer rut early in the morning between Korolówka and Wyryki and he saw the F-16 firing at the drone. He didn't see if the missile hit the drone, because he decided to take cover since he was wearing military camouflage and he was afraid that the pilot will think he's the drone operator lol

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@Velund, and here you have interviews with people living in Wyryki - a woman living 100 metres from that house said that she heard a bang/explosion in the morning so loud that she thought it was her house falling down and another woman is saying that at first she thought there was a gas explosion, so clearly nothing to do with any storm from two months ago ;D:



RuSSian propaganda/disinformation is so dumb and pathetic ;D

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Something like this can be easily photoshoped ;D
Such news articles don't exist on the Polish internet:

lublin.se.pl/dom-we-wsi-wyryki-zniszczony-przez-burze-a-nie-drona-bzdura-aa-MJ5o-vEsS-7iXp.html

x.com/LachowskiMateus/status/1966432831896219834

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I don't have the time right now to read all the comments, but I just have to react to this ;D:


My God... Yes, there are no comments indeed, if you prefer to believe one random comment on the internet that could be written by anyone (including a RuSSian/paid troll) over the owners of the house ;D What an idiot... 🤦

wiadomosci.wp.pl/to-w-ich-dom-uderzyly-szczatki-drona-przez-okno-patrze-leci-dach-7198751245212576a

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Btw, big thanks to our allies for support, especially to the Dutch pilots, because it was mainly the Dutch F-35 that shot down the drones! 🙏 🇱🇺 ❤️


"Nobody" is a bold statement lol I've seen people making all kinds of claims already.


Any links?
I'm curious about the technical aspect of it, how it's done and what is possible and what isn't in these types of operations. 🤔


It may be not illogical by the standards of someone like Putin. Remember how he brought his dog to the meeting with Merkel even though it was common knowledge she's afraid of dogs?


Well, yeah, that's the problem - RuSSians lie like they breathe...

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So this is why I got an SMS with a drone alert yesterday - three drones were found also in my region :(((:

echodnia.eu/swietokrzyskie/rosyjskie-drony-nad-polska-trzy-w-regionie-jest-alert-rcb-dla-swietokrzyskiego-wojewoda-zwolal-sztab-relacja-na-biezaco/ar/c1p2-27954275

kielce.tvp.pl/88835838/drony-spadly-w-wielu-miejscach-polski-jeden-zniszczyl-budynek-inny-wyladowal-90-kilometrow-od-kielc-zdjecia


Here's an informative, calm and balanced video by Tomasz Rożek, a scientist and publicist, concerning those drones:

"What kind of drones flew into Poland?:"



He's actually saying that it can't be ruled out completely that the drones flying in wasn't intentional (so that would explain why Belarus warned Poland about them). It also is likely though that RuSSia was testing Polish and NATO defences. He said that according to experts that he's following it is very unlikely that those drones were sent by Ukraine, because Ukraine doesn't produce those drones and even if they decided to "fake manufacture" them it would be very risky considering how closely supervised the skies are in this conflict and how politically volatile it would be if it turned out they were sent by Ukraine.

He didn't mention the possibility of those drones being "taken over" by Ukrainians. Did any other experts discuss it? How is it done and how likely it is that around 20 drones would be hacked at the same time, including those flying in from the territory of Belarus? Have there been cases of Ukrainian army actually taking control of RuSSian drones and flying them somewhere else? 🤔

Btw, the first response from RuSSia regarding those drones was such:

wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/rosyjskie-drony-nad-polska-jest-pierwsza-reakcja-kremla/n19zjyf

RuSSian Ministry of Defence just said that "attacking Poland wasn't in their plans" and that the drones that they used for attacking Ukraine have only a range of 700 km. But even if that was their range such drones can still reach central Poland, so... lol 🙄


Yup, true... Let us treat it as a lesson for the future.

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The US with Trump at the helm? ;D Do you live in some alternate universe?? 🤦😂


Sometimes I really like you ;D

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Tusk said that many of those drones came from Belarus, so it seems doubtful. But we can all just wait for the results of the investigation.


Yeah, I agree. Seems very doubtful he would do it on his own. It's not really Belarus' war anyway, RuSSia dragged it into it after all, so why Lukashenko would do that...

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I wrote already long ago that air defence should be Poland's priority for the time being and not all those tanks, etc. But I remember Torq telling me we should buy even more choppers. 🙄


They started some time ago already. But this stuff takes time, from what I've read. That's where allies can come in handy for the time being.

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And what do we have allies for? Aren't we the NATO's Eastern Flank now?? Hello???


I'm not opposed to the idea itself ;D but surely you realise how unrealistic it is (far more than what I suggest at this point). 🙄

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Yes, that's why I linked it in response to what you wrote. Did you read it?


Not due to range though. We simply have very few of them. That's why in my earlier comment I wrote: "Poland using its/allied air defences."


Yes, and so Polish pilots would simply have to be very careful too :)))


So what? They can't even beat Ukraine.


How is defending Polish airspace a "rash decision"? Shooting down missiles while they're still over Ukraine was proposed by serious politicians and generals. Earlier maybe it wasn't the time for that, but it is now.

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tech.wp.pl/polskie-patrioty-ochronia-ukraine-ekspert-wydaje-sie-sceptyczny,7047552255237056a


You wrote yourself that we're not in a conflict.


I think their focus is right now the war in Ukraine - either winning it or getting out of it as much as possible. I doubt that for the time being they're ready, willing and able to make war with the entire NATO. 🤔


Well, of course it does, it's RuSSia... lol But then they won't mind if we shoot down those "non-RuSSian" drones over Ukraine, will they now! :D 😂

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No, I meant air defences, not airplanes.


Do they though? I only ever hear about RuSSian fighter jets entering NATO air space "by accident" all the time.


Why a full-blown war? Turkey, a NATO country, shot down a RuSSian fighter jet when it violated the country's airspace. Has any war started because of that? Nope. That's why I wrote what I wrote. That's how you deal with RuSSia. That's their language - clearly the only language they understand.