@Joker, I've noticed only right-wing men keep banging about those tattoos (including on this forum) as if everybody cared about their preferences lol Are you and Novichok human incarnations of broken records? ;D Why do you think we care whether you like tattoos on women? Why do you keep writing about it again and again? Are you that boring and have nothing more interesting to say? ππ
And you can have no tattoos and no class (like you and Novichok and many, many right-wing men) and have tattoos and be a woman and a man with class (and what's even more important - a good person).
Btw, do you think men with tattoos have no class either? I'm sooo honestly interested to know your preference in this regard :D
@Novichok, men who think women with tattoos are sluts - morons. We have clarity now :D
but tattoos do not age well
You can say the same about skin in general though. And the right-wing men who hate women with tattoos are usually the same men who think women "expire" after a certain age, so they won't view an aging woman (with an aging skin lol) as a woman anyway. So who cares what such shallow men think? π€¨
You should be happy that you learn something new every day.
lol
The only thing that looks hot on a woman is a guy
Only if this guy is hot himself.
Tattoos are pretty enough to "date', but not to marry.
Why is that? I guess you have some kind of stereotype concerning women with tattoos? I sometimes forget that Joker is a boomer and you are like... ancient lol
Times change. I remember the time in Poland when no mother would want a tattooed guy for a husband for her daughter, because tattoos were associated with being in prison. Nowadays even Polish cops have tattoos. You're really old (and stupid) lol
Disgusting...
Beautiful! Even as standalone drawings those would be beautiful. Those are works of art :)
What Mother Nature wanted in regards to men then? Do you know? :) Btw, humans tattooted themselves for thousands of years, so... π€
no trans or tatoos.
Right-wing men and their sad life problems lol
I don't have tattoos and I don't plan to have any, but I realise there are a lot of beautiful tattoos out there that can look pretty hot too on a woman. I've noticed that right-wing men have a problem with understanding that other men can have other tastes than them. For example, my young, handsome, well-built cousin who has tattoos himself had (or still has, I don't know, girls like him a lot lol) a stunning girlfriend (and I mean a really stunning beauty) who had tattoos too.
Not everything is about YOU and your tastes. You don't like tattoos? Then stick to your non-tattoed wife and don't be so concerned what other women look like - it's not your business anyway, since you're married. π€
Yes, it looks like the childlike creature wants to get that ball from the bigger creature (which the bigger one is hiding behind its back).
@AntV, my first impression when I looked at this painting was "What a misogynist painting..." I checked museum's internet site and it looks like I was right with my first impression - from the description:
"In Zier's allegorical depiction her feminity itself and her sensuality is associated with sin, and in this biblical context at that - the greatest sin and with the most tragic consequences."
Why would you post such a painting? You don't like women? π€
As opposed to Zier's misogynist view of a woman I think this is the real depiction of Eve, since in Hebrew the name "Eve" (Havah) means "life giver" and she is the mother of all humankind:
"Multitasking" by Ricardo Mujica (101.6 x 76.2 cms/40 x 30 ins, oil painting) depicts his wife and daughter:
I wouldn't be surprised if there were some MAGA maniacs willing to believe him though, but I'm guessing those would have to be some severe headcases like Novichok probably.
I don't know what you're talking about - I used the option "Szukaj z obiektywem Google" and it found no such thing. π€¨
Also, what about the photos of the damage inside the house? "Storm" did that too, Velund? What is your "search by image" telling you about those photos? :D:
Hint - Google cache stil have some of photos, so you can find it by "search by image", but if you try to open them, you get 404... ;)
I don't know what you're talking about - I used the option "Szukaj z obiektywem Google" and it found no such thing. π€¨
How many PLN is necessary (in addition to free roof repair) is necessary to get witnessing of
I gave you a video with interviews with people living in Wyryki (with their names and surnames given, including the headmaster of the local school) and they are saying that they heard a loud bang/explosion that woke up everyone in the morning and there's no word of the house being damaged by any storm, you pathetic moron ;D
The same thing as with videos from bucha, where "dead body" reflected in mirror started to move once car with camera is passed by... ;)
I've seen those videos and there were no bodies "moving" lol
You know what, Velund, I'm starting to think you don't believe the bullsh1t you're spewing. You must be repeating those lies on purpose, because I'm not buying that you're that stupid.
Just like my Polish docs to prove I am Polish by birth.
And here you have again an interview with the owner of the house - he's saying that the fake info is bullsh1t and that there has been no storm in Wyryki for the last three months:
I'd like to stress that the investigation is ongoing and they're not sure yet what hit the house - whether it was a drone, remains of a drone or fragments of the missile from the fighter jet and if the drone has been shot down at all.
In the article there's also an interview with a nature's photographer Tomasz Kawiak who was taking photos of deer rut early in the morning between KorolΓ³wka and Wyryki and he saw the F-16 firing at the drone. He didn't see if the missile hit the drone, because he decided to take cover since he was wearing military camouflage and he was afraid that the pilot will think he's the drone operator lol
@Velund, and here you have interviews with people living in Wyryki - a woman living 100 metres from that house said that she heard a bang/explosion in the morning so loud that she thought it was her house falling down and another woman is saying that at first she thought there was a gas explosion, so clearly nothing to do with any storm from two months ago ;D:
RuSSian propaganda/disinformation is so dumb and pathetic ;D
I don't have the time right now to read all the comments, but I just have to react to this ;D:
No comments... ;)
My God... Yes, there are no comments indeed, if you prefer to believe one random comment on the internet that could be written by anyone (including a RuSSian/paid troll) over the owners of the house ;D What an idiot... π€¦
Btw, big thanks to our allies for support, especially to the Dutch pilots, because it was mainly the Dutch F-35 that shot down the drones! π π±πΊ β€οΈ
Nobody says Ukraine produced or "fake manufactured" these drones
"Nobody" is a bold statement lol I've seen people making all kinds of claims already.
there were instances of both sides - Russians and Ukrainians - taking over the other side's drones.
Any links? I'm curious about the technical aspect of it, how it's done and what is possible and what isn't in these types of operations. π€
Russians sometimes act illogically.
It may be not illogical by the standards of someone like Putin. Remember how he brought his dog to the meeting with Merkel even though it was common knowledge she's afraid of dogs?
This is of course bullsh*t
Well, yeah, that's the problem - RuSSians lie like they breathe...
General KukuΕa (Chief of the Defence Staff) confirms that Belarus warned us before the drones entered our airspace. So, it looks like they might have been taken over electronically and redirected towards Poland by someone who has such capability.
Here's an informative, calm and balanced video by Tomasz RoΕΌek, a scientist and publicist, concerning those drones:
"What kind of drones flew into Poland?:"
He's actually saying that it can't be ruled out completely that the drones flying in wasn't intentional (so that would explain why Belarus warned Poland about them). It also is likely though that RuSSia was testing Polish and NATO defences. He said that according to experts that he's following it is very unlikely that those drones were sent by Ukraine, because Ukraine doesn't produce those drones and even if they decided to "fake manufacture" them it would be very risky considering how closely supervised the skies are in this conflict and how politically volatile it would be if it turned out they were sent by Ukraine.
He didn't mention the possibility of those drones being "taken over" by Ukrainians. Did any other experts discuss it? How is it done and how likely it is that around 20 drones would be hacked at the same time, including those flying in from the territory of Belarus? Have there been cases of Ukrainian army actually taking control of RuSSian drones and flying them somewhere else? π€
Btw, the first response from RuSSia regarding those drones was such:
RuSSian Ministry of Defence just said that "attacking Poland wasn't in their plans" and that the drones that they used for attacking Ukraine have only a range of 700 km. But even if that was their range such drones can still reach central Poland, so... lol π
It's good that these drones flew in because it turned out that Poland does not have effective anti-drone defense.
Yup, true... Let us treat it as a lesson for the future.
Ukrainian influence operations... They have hundreds of thousands of accounts under their control.
Maybe, who knows, but that's not what I'm talking about... ;D For example, an American comedian posted about what happened in Poland at night with some dark humour and other comments were also like "why it's always Poland "and "it's September too" (like WW2) and so on. Some people waking up to the news this morning thinking that RuSSia attacked Poland and panicking and Poles having to explain to them that drones just flew in and noone died :P
condemning Polish cowardice - and all the American and European Shiba Inu dogs bark in their support.
Yeah, I've seen such comments too. Some claim that those are RuSSian bots on the other hand, so....yeah... ;D The internet these days... *sigh*
The only party that benefits from a Russian attack on Poland - is Ukraine.
We'll see, we'll see.
surreal, isn't it...
Btw, that's the SMS I got today in the morning (we usually get such alerts about storms and not hostile drones, obviously):
What if the drones were actually launched by Ukraine
Tusk said that many of those drones came from Belarus, so it seems doubtful. But we can all just wait for the results of the investigation.
Is stupid, yet not so stupid as to launch UAVs into Polish and NATO airspace without the say so of his putrid boss.
Yeah, I agree. Seems very doubtful he would do it on his own. It's not really Belarus' war anyway, RuSSia dragged it into it after all, so why Lukashenko would do that...
I wrote already long ago that air defence should be Poland's priority for the time being and not all those tanks, etc. But I remember Torq telling me we should buy even more choppers. π
There was plenty of time for all necessary arrangements and preparations.
They started some time ago already. But this stuff takes time, from what I've read. That's where allies can come in handy for the time being.
The damaged house in Wyryki belongs to an older couple and they were sleeping upstairs after all, but, luckily, they got up earlier than usual in the morning and went downstairs. Less than an hour later a fighter jet shot down the drone and the debris hit their house while the man was watching news on TV about drones flying into Poland:
Yes, that's why I linked it in response to what you wrote. Did you read it?
Using Patriots for what you suggested is not very likely
Not due to range though. We simply have very few of them. That's why in my earlier comment I wrote: "Poland using its/allied air defences."
I wrote that we are not at war.
Yes, and so Polish pilots would simply have to be very careful too :)))
then they currently have much higher material capabilities to conduct war against Eastern Flank of NATO (Finland, the Baltics, Poland) than they did in 2015.
So what? They can't even beat Ukraine.
However, let's not make rash decisions.
How is defending Polish airspace a "rash decision"? Shooting down missiles while they're still over Ukraine was proposed by serious politicians and generals. Earlier maybe it wasn't the time for that, but it is now.
These days their entire economy is switched into war mode and they are producing large quantities of weapons with the exact purpose of war with NATO.
I think their focus is right now the war in Ukraine - either winning it or getting out of it as much as possible. I doubt that for the time being they're ready, willing and able to make war with the entire NATO. π€
Russia denies those were Russian drones...
Well, of course it does, it's RuSSia... lol But then they won't mind if we shoot down those "non-RuSSian" drones over Ukraine, will they now! :D π
That would involve using our airplanes over Ukraine.
No, I meant air defences, not airplanes.
But our planes enter Russian airspace as well, by accident or not. Our choppers fly over Belarus as well, accidentally or not.
Do they though? I only ever hear about RuSSian fighter jets entering NATO air space "by accident" all the time.
It's easy to start a full-blown war
Why a full-blown war? Turkey, a NATO country, shot down a RuSSian fighter jet when it violated the country's airspace. Has any war started because of that? Nope. That's why I wrote what I wrote. That's how you deal with RuSSia. That's their language - clearly the only language they understand.
And if that isn't enough and one Polish citizen will die or gets injured due to RuSSian missiles or drones "venturing" into Polish air space NATO countries should start opening fire at any RuSSian fighter jets "accidentally" entering NATO air space. Fighter jets are more expensive than drones and you need well trained pilots for them so I imagine RuSSians would suddenly be much, much more careful about not entering NATO air space "by accident" π
Yeah, that will teach them... ;D That should be done long ago...
Deporting r*SSian citizens would be another.
I think that was done already. The people left are probably those that deserve to stay. And those are not RuSSian oligarchs, so I don't see why Kremlin would care.
I think the bare minimum would be Poland using its/allied air defences to shoot down RuSSian missiles and drones already over Ukraine before they enter Polish territory. Since RuSSia decided to f*ck around in the Polish air space to such an extent there's really no other choice. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.π
@jon357, I'm guessing the only reason why noone got hurt was because it was a living room and noone was sleeping at night there. The family can't go back to that house now though.
I think a time has come for a stronger reaction. This is not a joking matter anymore or an "accident". If there's no reaction that will hurt RuSSia enough for this, RuSSia will escalate this, even if "just" to destabilise Poland or to make NATO look weak and people will start getting killed in Poland.
"Strongly condemning" and sending diplomatic notes of protest to RuSSia lol π€¦ won't suffice anymore.
The remains of one of the drones were found near my region. So the next time it could happen to my grandma's house or that of my other family members living in the countryside, I guess... My grandma could have not survived such damage like the one that happened to that house in Wyryki :( Thank God noone got killed or injured:
