News / Time to clean the swamp - dePiSification of Poland [298]


Yeah, that's why I'm confused.


Lenka, seriously? xD What's "weird" about it? We're talking about PiS here... You think that why anti-PiS protesters were holding placards with "Constitution" written on them? Because PiS was violating Polish Constitution...

News / Time to clean the swamp - dePiSification of Poland [298]


Your comment makes no sense in this particular case. The new Polish government is actually doing what they promised during the election campaign - de-PiSification of the public media. The issue is the way they're doing it. Whether they should be doing it in this particular way or not.

So, Novichok, how about you provide some constructive info?

What would it look like in the US? Let us assume that the US Congress passes a law that goes against the US Constitution. What then? Is there a body that decides whether a given law is in accordance with the Constitution or not?


True. I agree.


Pawian, read those three links I provided in my post #93 when you have more time.

News / Time to clean the swamp - dePiSification of Poland [298]

Hmm, Houston, we have a certain problem... or dillema, if you will... (Ms. Civics enters the building :P)


At first I didn't know what that's all about, but now I'm better informed after reading those two articles:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/nielegalnie-niezgodnie-widowiskowo-i-skutecznie-opinia-6975865583102464a

tvn24.pl/biznes/z-kraju/zmiany-w-mediach-publicznych-tvp-polskie-radio-pap-prawnicy-komentuja-st7618696

The issue is as follows - the new government is breaking the law that was created by PiS and deemed unconstitutional by the Constitutional Tribunal in 2016.

So, can a government brake the law that is unconstitutional? I'm no lawyer and have no idea. I'm confused... PiS created such a mess :/

But I think I agree with almost everything that is written here:

notesfrompoland.com/2023/12/21/right-aims-wrong-methods-public-media-takeover-shows-dangers-for-new-polish-government/

My closing thoughts:

The new government could make new law that would replace the unconstitutional one, but it would be vetoed by pro-PiS president Duda. So they would have to wait two years to make that change - until next presidential elections. I know it's sh1tty that for two more years taxpayers money would be wasted on PiS propaganda, but I personally could live with it. I would simply continue boycotting public/PiS media. And can't the government lower the funding for TVP in the meantime?

What do you guys think about this mess?

Life / History likes to repeat itself in Poland - Where does this famous saying come from? [19]


Me neither and I'm Polish, born in Poland and I have lived all my life in this country... Of course, someone may choose to put such a twist on this saying by adding "in Poland" or some other country, but normally people just say "Historia lubi się powtarzać":

sjp.pwn.pl/ciekawostki/haslo/Historia-lubi-sie-powtarzac;5541997.html

News / Time to clean the swamp - dePiSification of Poland [298]


I could understand that if it wasn't possible to protest in a normal way in Poland and if it was about something important. But it wasn't the case. Especially that Braun is not just some ordinary Joe, he's a leader of a political party and an MP. He has every means to be heard.


What law? What on Earth are you talking about? lol


And unnecessary. Just like Braun's stunt.

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


Lenka, as you can see - Novichok is simply evil.


No, they didn't. He was sentenced by an Iraqi National Tribunal.


Another of your detached comparisons. Saddam sons were adults and they weren't executed, but killed during a gun battle:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Qusay_and_Uday_Hussein

"The operation originally intended to apprehend them, but turned into a four-hour gun battle outside a fortified safehouse which ended with the death of the brothers, Qusay's son Mustafa, and a bodyguard, Abdul Samad al-Hadushi."


You're f*cked up.

News / Time to clean the swamp - dePiSification of Poland [298]


There was nothing "commendable" about it. Braun not only broke the law, but what he did was also simply disrespectful, primitive and stupid. I hope that hateful lunatic will pay for this.

News / Time to clean the swamp - dePiSification of Poland [298]


They didn't occupy the streets - the protesters did lol The opposition also didn't occupy the whole Parliament :)) And you probably forgot that PiS caused this crisis:

wyborcza.pl/56,140981,21133430,awantura-w-sejmie-marszalek-wyklucza-z-obrad-posla-z-transparentem.html

News / Time to clean the swamp - dePiSification of Poland [298]


Whenever I think that PiS can't surprise me with any insanity anymore - they do something like this o_O What the hell is this circus all about?? When PiS won elections 8 years ago they completely took over the public media and opposition parties weren't occupying TVP building because of that lol Have PiS politicians lost their minds completely? They can't possibly be that deluded, so I'm guessing it's some kind of show for PiS voters. 🤔

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_the_Romanov_family

"While waiting for the smoke to abate, the killers could hear moans and whimpers inside the room. As it cleared, it became evident that although several of the family's retainers had been killed, all of the Imperial children were alive and only Tatiana was injured.

The noise of the guns had been heard by households all around, awakening many people. The executioners were ordered to use their bayonets, a technique which proved ineffective and meant that the children had to be dispatched by still more gunshots, this time aimed more precisely at their heads. The Tsarevich was the first of the children to be executed. Yurovsky watched in disbelief as Nikulin spent an entire magazine from his Browning gun on Alexei"


He can't possibly be that ignorant. I think he's simply evil.

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


Did they find the vodka though? lol:

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


I'm not even sure if this is a dialogue from the movie - Chekov is a very intelligent and professional character (and likeable). Have you seen those films?


As for cosmonauts who like to have a drink... :) "Gravity" is literally one of two Hollywood movies where there's a positive Polish character (and not stupid)... or rather with Polish roots... that I can recall... And, of course, he dies:



And this one:



What they have in common is the surname Kowalski and that they both die :)) To be fair - they're sacrificing themselves for the right cause (which Novichok would qualify as "stupid" anyway :)))


Exactly :)))))

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


Come on, Chekov in the new Star Trek is adorable :)):




I'm guessing you're being sarcastic :)))

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


It doesn't matter - they're positive characters - that's the point :)


RuSSians aren't exactly chill, are they now... lol :)))

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]

@Bobko, "Red Heat"? OMG, that's an old movie lol I've seen it, but I very vaguely remember what it was about - it was long time ago... 🤔 But I remembered the Polish title - wow! lol Arnie is classic :)))

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


Ekhem (from the top of my head):

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


"countries like RuSSia" = not only RuSSia.

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


Nope. No, thank you.


Maybe for PiS kind of Poles (who need enemies to thrive, apparently). Not getting invaded, killed, raped, robbed, occupied, lied to on daily basis, etc. - I personally like that kind of "boredom".


We wouldn't need heroes if it wasn't for countries like RuSSia.

Travel / Kielce and the area - amazing Polish Pocket Knives live there [105]

@Alien, the fire was contained after 2 am and firefighters could start working on the site in the morning:

echodnia.eu/swietokrzyskie/kolejny-raz-plonal-dawny-szpital-przy-ogrodowej-w-kielcach-zobacz-zdjecia-i-wideo/ar/c1-18170499

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


No, they aren't. Ask Novichok.


No, it isn't. Nationalist at best.


Maybe ordinary RuSSians are being dramatic and histerical about it (more like delusional in my opinion). But RuSSia as a state is simply spreading lying propaganda.


You're seriously f*cked up.

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


I can't speak for others, but I started using "RuSSians", because RuSSian propaganda and Putinists here on the forum started calling Ukrainians "Nazis" first :) Also, we're just a bunch of random people on a niche internet forum. You won't hear such stuff on Polish or Western TV or from the mouths of politicians, journalists, etc. (unlike in RuSSia).


We have no idea what would have happened. It could make no difference at all.

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


That's the first thing you do - dehumanising the enemy, so it would be easier to kill them. That's what Nazis did with Jews. That's what RuSSia is doing with Ukrainians (banderists, Nazis, satanists, etc). There isn't anything "nice" about it, especially considering how effective it was and still is...


And they've never seen the Star of David? The Star of David has 6 points and pentagram - five. Although it could be deliberate by the author - who knows.

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


He's pictured as the devil, that's why he's red (+the colour of communism, I suppose).


Could be, but that's not what I meant when I wrote "Those are accurate to this day".


That's a pentagram though... 🤨

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]

Those are accurate to this day:

German-made (1944 probably):



From this article:

opole.wyborcza.pl/opole/7,111632,20732719,nie-chronil-ich-habit-ani-wiek.html

Polish made (1920) - it reads "BOLSHEVIK FREEDOM":

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]


Wow...


WTF...

Travel / Kielce and the area - amazing Polish Pocket Knives live there [105]


Did you manage to take anything with you?


Which fire are you asking about?

Travel / Kielce and the area - amazing Polish Pocket Knives live there [105]

@Lenka, oh damn... Did that fire start during the day or at night?

It must be this fire - firefighters got a call around 22:15:

kielce.wyborcza.pl/kielce/7,47262,30517257,dawny-szpital-mswia-przy-ul-ogrodowej-znow-sie-pali-plona.html

Weird, it's pretty far away from where I live o_O The same building was on fire a few days ago, but I didn't smell anything at that time - either the fire is bigger this time or maybe wind is blowing in this direction... Fortunately, it's a vacant building, so hopefully noone got hurt... Apparently this building was bought not long ago and two fires already... 🤔

Btw, where is Grzegorz Braun when you need him lol He missed his calling, it seems ;D
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Travel / Kielce and the area - amazing Polish Pocket Knives live there [105]

Holy sh1t, it sounds (lots of firefighter sirens) and smells like there's some big fire going on in Kielce :O

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Travel / Kielce and the area - amazing Polish Pocket Knives live there [105]

An important info before Christmas - Kielecki mayonnaise is healthier than Winiary :d:

finanse.wp.pl/kielecki-kontra-winiary-dietetyk-wybral-6974671707315072a

Just saying ;D

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News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

@Velund, how do you know that it worked? lol


Wouldn't that exclude you? :))