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Hmmph. I'm younger than Milo by about a decade. You're a harder call however I'd guess within a decade. Textual analysis does suggest "very young at heart boomer" though...


This does seem to be a trend. It's not imposible to see it morphing into one of those talent show franchises. That might not be a bad step.

It's still not as good as it was when Sandie Shaw* was in it.

* A trivial fact; the reason she sang barefoot is that she is very short sighted and needed to feel the edge of the stage so she didn't fall off...

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Better to sell them for 50p a pop. That or recycle.


Unfortunately some religious people have conniptions about this (depending on whose text it is) and of course the Heine quote "those who burn books will in the end burn people" does carry some weight.

Blasphemy laws were scrapped in England and Wales about 20 years ago and in Scotland a few months ago. AFAIK they still have them in NI which is more religious. There was an incident in PL a few years ago where a clergyman was publicly burning Harry Potter books however I forget how that turned out.

News / R. Trzaskowski, current mayor of Warsaw, future President of Poland [354]


+1. He would be the best choice.

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A disreputable source.

And yes, the Tories did start the current wave due to wanting a cheap workforce.

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No. The entrants are sent there by country.

You don't have to post in every thread for the sake of it. It is boring.

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

Ask the prosecutors.

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [528]

Why would anyone burn books?

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We came second a couple of years ago and would certainly have won had there not been an invasion a couple of months previously.

It's just that we have dull songs and that most of Europe has less sophisticated tastes in popular music.

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Or in fact much better.

The new trade deal is worth billions yearly. The Tories had 8 years to do it but failed. It also allows us to get Channel crossings down to pre-2016 levels, someth8 g the Tories also failed at, despite all the noise.

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Italy did that, largely due to the tacky music, however they're back in now due to public demand.

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You're confusing us with the Tories.


They signed a trade deal. A reasonable one, though a mistake to order anything from Boeing given their current safety issues.

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]


Eager anticipation regarding the coverage of Braun's criminal trial.

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Unlikely, given our record majority plus the FPTP system.


That happened already under the Tories. In my city, since the election, I've only seen businesses open.

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Hard to know where you get that from. Had you heard of him before this thread?

They aren't an ideology, it's one guy and a website. Most lifelong party members have no idea what he's about, and they aren't an affiliated organisation, nor do they have any grass roots support.

If you ask 100 random voters in the street who they are, you'd be unlikely to find even one who's heard of the guy and his website.

His principles are good ones, however very few people have heard of him, and the party in any case runs day to day at branch level in exactly the way outlined in your internet quote.


Like most people who work rotations, I've very much lived there under this government and the last and am on the move all the time. The price rises started under the Tories and are in any case Europe-wide. They are more noticeable in Poland than in the U.K.


Perhaps because they are actually far right. Fortunately, the FPTP system means they can't win a general election. Councillors in rural Lincolnshire, with a. 28% turn out and with a majority in single figures don't count.

Pretty good news today with the trade deal,

News / France and Germany plan to flood Poland with illegal migrants. [157]


Never listened to LBC (it's a London station) and dislike that O'Brien person, largely due to his support for Carl Beech and other VIP false accusers.


He can say what he likes. Shock jocks do. Our government (who are introducing the strictest migration controls in decades) disagree with him.


'Blue Labour' barely exists outside its website.

News / France and Germany plan to flood Poland with illegal migrants. [157]


We've had 14 years of that, and Thatcher a decade before.

If you watch or read rightwing propaganda online, you'd maybe miss that we've started nationalising public transport and energy, started free breakfast clubs in all primary schools, created new Foundation Apprenticeships, increased defence spending, passed legislation to prevent employers from exploiting workers with "hire/rehire" and zero hours contracts as well as signing new trading deals with our two largest trading partners plus India, removed the no VAT loophole for private schools and are introducing legislation to make inward migration harder and to remove those in the country illegally.


No. The democratically elected government wants to end landlordism. Good; this is overdue. Housing is not an "investment" for people who do not live in it. Buy to letters are parasites; there is no need for such an "investment" to exist and every reason for it not to.

As for large scale migration via the channel, the tories started that, they created the problem and failed miserably in dealing with it.


The voters and taxpayers of the U.K., (I'm one of them). And of course members of the Labour Party and Trade Union Movement, some of us with sore feet from leafletting estates every election time for decades.. Not the southern chattering classes, but those whose communities have been robbed blind for generations by the Tories and their voters.


Well, if the bítch hadn't closed down all the industry, robbed all the jobs locally, people wouldn't have to get on their bike, Tebbit style. Some of us aspire to a bit more than the basic and achieve that without exploiting others.

"the country you haven't live in, for decades"
So 2021 was decades ago?

Righwingers have never been great at maths. And always get the wrong end of the stick.

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [528]


Over there, there's even a penalty for burning that garish flag.

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]


More a chore.

Braun has to be punishes and seen to be punished.

This will happen, given the criminal case against him.

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]


A clown.


Do you watch those political TV shows in PL where they ask one politician a question and they spend ten minutes saying how complicated it is, then the next one says he misunderstood and in fact it's far more complicated than that, then the third one says that the other two have oversimplified it and pretends to explain how difficult it really is, then back to the first guy (always male) who says that it's even more complicated than the others can begin to know?

Any of my students who did that would get a spanking. If they can't summarise the basics of an issue in 150 words (300 po Polsku) they don't understand it.


He's looking at partial outcomes. He'll never be president or PM however he's thinking what he can get in the future.

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Very good news today that the centrist Nicusor Dan has won and Romania has been spared a fascist president.

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Who do they think owns popular music?

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Just as long as control of key industries is protected rather than allowing French and German companies to buy them or hold a stake in them.

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Or deadly serious, given that not only do we have the strongest mandate in decades but we are also unpicking the damage done by 14 years of Tories.

Just look at Rightmove. All the buy to let "landlords" are selling up. Plus we're actually doing something about migration, have negotiated actual trade deals (with real places, not selling biscuits to Fiji) and our economy is showing the highest growth levels in G7.

Tough shít if you live in leafy southern suburbs; you have a voice enough already. This time we're in charge. Enjoy the extra 17% on 'school fees' and say bye bye to your 'second home'.

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Not mine and unexceptional, but ok as background music. Not exactly cheerful, but then again, most Polish popular music is not.

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [528]


Or far too few.

The new proposals for anti- subversion laws are interesting. Nobody wants to go back to the 60s or 70s when MI5 monitored some political currents but not others, however the role of malign state actors in whipping up hatred is well enough known.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Something memorable. Nice to listen to again and again. Or very danceable.

Over the years there's been a handful though nothing this year stood out.


Even more traditional in some places.

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So little stood out.


Some of the more traditional juries would like that.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Yep. Someone that would actually sell copies and pack concert halls.

Much of the EV stuff is basically working men's club cabaret or its foreign alternative.

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]


Really?

Were there riots in Poland? Are riots relevant? The law is the law.

Next time you're arrested and charged with a crime, tell the judge that someone in a foreign country also committed a crime and watch them say "so what".

The guy can't just go around destroying things he doesn't like.

As he will soon find out in court.

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An irrelevance.

The law is the law. People can't just deface or destroy things.