News / Poles march against Mandatory poisoning by vaccines [202]

Almost no one dies from those diseases because of vaccines. And behind the number of deaths are several times more people who have lasting damage done to them by those diseases. Measles et al are not harmless.

This discussion really shows why vaccinations should be mandatory. There are no solid arguments against vaccination, and all its' opponents can do is making silly claims.

News / Poles march against Mandatory poisoning by vaccines [202]

Many people keep underestimating "child diseases". Measles is a potentially deadly disease, and the worst thing about it, it doesn't kill quickly. After symptomes of the complications emerge, it takes several years until the child dies. Parents have to watch as their child becomes unsreponsive, eventually falls into a coma and dies, all the while knowing that a simple vaccination could have prevented it.

express.co.uk/life-style/health/726373/measles-jab-complication-brain-damage-children-fear

News / Poles march against Mandatory poisoning by vaccines [202]


Those are very bad news. Not vaccinating children is nothing less than child abuse. You condemn your child to unneeded suffering and potential health risks.


Nothing to worry about: cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/index.html


Vaccines are much safer than they used to be 30 years ago. They are not given instantly, we still have to wait several months. Which is another reason why vaccination should be obligatory, babies depend on herd protection until they are vaccinated. Hopefully we can one day vaccinate babies immediately after their birth and spare them from most diseases.

News / Poles march against Mandatory poisoning by vaccines [202]

Anti-Vaccine movements are the best proof that a society does not become smarter simply because of scientific advancements. People simply like conspiracy theories. I hope most Poles are smarter than this.

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]


You are seriously demented in your views.

The Russians raped whoever they wanted. Old woman, children. Germans, Poles, KZ survivors.... .

There was no justice behind it.

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

The problem is, that unlike Germany, Russia has not broken with its' old ways and constitutes the biggest threat to Poland right now. It is lead by a man who openly regrets that the SU collapsed. No wonder Poland is suspicious towards Poland.

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]


Very unlikely. All Great Powers were almost constantly at war between the 18th century and 1945 (particulary in Colonial affairs).

And Russia's track record is after 1945 not better than the US. In addition to their own military adventures, they were de facto participating in the Korean and Vietnam War. Not to mention how they waged de facto war against their Satellite States and Crushed uprisings there.

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]


She would lose the next election. But since most Germans agree with her on this in principle, this has not happened so far.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


This obviously. I don't think any sane individual would blame muslims as mostly responsible for shool shootings.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


This is false as pointed out numerous times in this thread. Gun laws can effectively keep guns from the hands of unorganized criminals, and Japan shows that even organized crime can find it difficult to get it. And since most crimes are commited by petty criminals, this is an effective deterrent. Most burglars won't get a gun of it costs a small fortune and if found out would lead to a lengthy prison sentence.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Particulary Lega Nord has promised its' voters to push for a relocation of the Italian funds that goe to Bruessels in order to use it for the refugee crisis. Money that would have gone to Eastern Europe. Both government parties are also unashamedly pro-Russian and want an immediate end to the sanctions.

Only morons think that this is good news for Poland. Though this is typical for the far-right. They are so fixated on the migrant crisis that they are blind towards the real dangers for their country.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

You'll find maniacs in every country. The difference between the USA and Europe is, that we do not arm them. Gun laws do not prevent people from attacking others, but they reduce the potential damage done by the attacker Every knife attack in Europe would have been an attack carried out by a gun in the USA. Which is why the laws are working.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]


Because this was such a plausible scenario. As anyone who visited Crimea before 2014 could tell you. this Russian propaganda about a supposed threat to the Crimeans was so utterly stupid only someone who has no idea about the circumstances there could bring this up. Crimea was a fortress before it was annexed by Russia, I saw soldiers patrolling the streets, they had tanks, and so on. Even if a few dozen hooligans had found there way to Crimea, there is no chance they could have done anything there.


Sure, according to Russian propaganda.


Of course I mean Navalny. The man got results when he was allowed to compete that obviously frightened Putin. He would not have won, since Putin has the propaganda machinery on his side, but his participation would have exposed that support for Putin is smaller than Putin likes to admit.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]


There was no active genocide against the Crimeans for instance. And to consider this referendum under arms when the opposing side was not given a fair chance to advocate its' cause publically is laughable.

If Putin had restricted himself to Crimea his actions might not have prevwnted any understanding later on. The fact however that he fasciliated and supported a Civil War in the Ukraine (which without Russian support would long since been over) that cost 10k of lives makes Russia irredeemable.


The collapse that anyone who cares to look for can see coming in the next decade. Russia is living on borrowed time, it is living from substance created during the oil and gass boom. Putin used the money to modernize the army and slightly improve the standard of living, yet has utterly failed to diversify the economy. What is worse is that he failed to invest enough money to modernize the infrastructure which means that in approx. 10 years it will get more and more difficult for Russia to keep its' oil and gas production rate. Russia has nothing except oil and nukes. You can get by on this for some time, but not forever. And one day the Russian people will no longer be satisfied with a stagnant status quo any longer.


Yet Putin found it necessary to ban the most important opposition leader before the election. It tells you a lot about the weakness of his system that he felt the need to go to such lengths. Putin himself is aware of it since the protests in 2012. Das

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]


Russia's behaviour in the Ukraine is more than enough reason to condemn it. Russia broke with the ultimate taboo in European foreign policy by redrawing the borders by force. Consequently it's neighbours are justified to fear Russia and rely on Nato to protect them, since Russia has no qualm pressuring those who are not protected by it.

In a way I feel sorry for the Russians. They have had so many incompetent and coŕrupt rulers that they are now satisfied to live under a man who promises them national greatness, yet has no viable long-term strategy for his country and enables corruption even more than his predecessors (just more covertly). Russia could be a wealthy country, bit its' citizen are poor because its' elite pluders its' wealth (just look at the number of oligarchs, and the official number is probably too low). However Poland can not affort to go soft on them, because the predictable collapse of the system might encourage Putin to act even more agressively to stabilize his power,

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

And here I thought that Americans needing a gun to receive validation as a man was just a silly stereotype.... .

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

That just goes to show you that strict gun laws and low gun ownserhip is better at preventing fire arm related deaths than merely strict gun control.

That being said, strict gun control is better than nothing.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

You mean the one before the last one?

One can criticize a lot about Obama, but it is obvious that he is a highly intelligent man. Bush Jr. on the other hand... .

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Besides, as the current president clearly demonstrates, you don't need intelligence to convince others to follow you.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

I hope you don't really believe this. Jews faced the same hardships as other Poles (since they were Poles before) while already being widely discriminated before 1841 and denied most civil services.

@G (undercover)


Interesting how this thread confirms the stereotype that antisemtism is still prevalent in Poland. T

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Because Polish people were not necessarily in the same position as their Jewish citizens. If you were in a Ghetto or KZ collaborating with the Nazis might be one of the few ways you thought you could survive. I would never pass judgement on someone like this since no one could with certainty claim that given the situation, he would have reacted differently. Besides most of them were later killed anyway.

Most Szmalcowce did not have this excuse.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

You do realize that their is a moral difference between someone betraying his neighbours to the Nazis because of the reward, and someone who lives in a Ghetto/KZ and helps the Nazis because it might help him survive longer?

No one can seriously argue that the latter has morally compromised himself, while the latter is thoroughly despicable.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

That could be problematic though, given that most offenses (excluding e.g. murder) have probably fallen under the statute of limitation.

@Lyzko


Which is a good thing, because it leaves room for an academic discussion on a very sensitive topic. Even today historians still disagree on how much responsibility Austrians bear for the Anschluss and its' consequences. The Nazis managed to get their supporters in high positions before 1938 and used them well, but there is a lot of evdence that the majority of the Austrians might not have been in favour of it, if given a choice. Hitler after all was desperate to prevent a plebiscite on the matter.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Bit he did not talk about the Serbs in WWII here, and the fact that he furthermore compares the victims of Serbian agressions to the Nazis is just as outrageous. If I was Polish I would be furious about such comparisons.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]


You have really no shame, that you attempt to compare the genocidal Serbs with the Polish victims on a Polish forum. That is all I am going to say about this.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

The result was the crushing of the genocidal ambitions of the Serbs and the restoration of order and peace in the Balkans. While not perfect, it is a good solution considering we are talking about the Balkans here.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

@gregy741


The one in Yugoslavia went very well.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

Please just educate yourself about the applications of the Maastricht criterias before you continue to demonstrate your ignorance... .

Your attempts to link them to Polish own failures are as clumsy as they are wrong.

Not only are the Maastricht criterias more flexible in their application, they are something entirely different from the rules that Poland is breaking.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


Poland can't be compared to other EU countries (at least not Western European countries) since it is not as developed as them. The fact that Poland is racking up a high deficite despite great economic growth is worrying, especially since the demographic outlook of Poland is particulary bleak. Western Europeans have acquired more personal wealth, and are thus more capable to bear the consequences of the demographic decline, but this is not yet the case in Poland. Either the current or next government will have to reduce the budget deficite.


Said debt requirement only affects the Euro members, not the EU.


Again, there is mechanism to kich out any Euro member, nor is it possible to kick a country out of the EU. A country can only voluntarily leave the EU, it can not be forced out.

bbc.com/news/business-15575751

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

I am not going to bother to correct all your false assumptions about inflation et al. since it is obvious that you have no idea of what you are talking about and simply use this to further your agenda. Though I give you credits for being inventive enough to create the assumption that Germany had economically stagnated last year.


It has actually a rather high annual budget deficite:

tradingeconomics.com/poland/government-budget


It only enforces laws that if can enforce, since the member states were (and still are) able to veto any sanctions, which they did in the past. Obviously that is detrimental to the whole process, and thus greater fiscal supervision will be granted to Bruessels with the next planned reforms.


The treaties to not include the possibility of forcing countries to leave the eurozone.


Yes, but Germany has been reducing its' deficite, while Poland is continuing to borrow money.


Poland is doing well, but it will take a lot more effort to catch up to Western Europe, and along the way, it will have to decide how to let all Polish people benefit from growth.