News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


they know that


they're fine with that, if they can't make women into brood mares, at least they have the satisfaction that they're suffering...

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Ah... more and more power and no accountability.... What could possiblye go wrong?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Because those "bizarre" examples do happen and sometimes the best thing for the woman's health is abortion. Not admitting weakens the arguments for abortion restrictions overall.


Getting rid of the idea that the other side is simply evil and wants to kill babies or is evil and wants women to be nothing more than walking baby-incubators might be a start.

I don't really care about early term abortion (in the first three months or so) at all and no amount of gruesdome pictures is liable to change my mind. I am very against elective abortion after the fifth month or so (natural viability) but I don't think many women actually try to get those either.

In some cases (like rape and/or incest) I think abortion as early as possible is the best choice all around. In all cases I think the ultimate decision should be that of the pregnant woman.

Now, where do we have common ground? If there is none then there's no point in talking (beyond virtue signalling).

Law / Polish Visa Refused, Going To Make Appeal, What should I do ? [81]


You seem to have mistaken this forum for a consular agency. We do not issue visas and if you sent your application to us then you are not ready to leave your country (no matter how many of your countrymen are urging you to go).

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

What's flippant? The idea that consentual sex is sometimes regretted or that some crazy feminists want to redefine it as rape?

washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/?utm_term=.2abdf7b428eb

money quote: "ensuring that sexual consent is always free of pressure is an impossible goal. Consent advocates already fret that even an explicit "yes" may not be given freely enough"

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


cause I think violent rapists and their unborn offspring should be killed?

cause I don't take Matress Girl (look it up) or the Gomeshi accusers seriously? Because I don't agree with the current feminist line (roughly: nothing a woman does or says (including "I consent") can be taken to mean that she consented to have sex?


I'd want the SOB dead.


What have I said that's flip?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


What people don't willingly have sex and then regret it afterward? I thought that was a more or less universal experience (not a problem if it's happened a time or two, a major problem if its a normal occurence).

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Do you want him to die? Do you want him to go to prison? Do you still want a relationship with him? Those are all relevant questions that are thrown under the bus in the current climate.

There are degrees of sexual... assault. From stranger violent rape (should be capital crime) to someone overstepping relationship boundaries. The feminist fantasy is that there is no difference between a criminal dragging a woman into the bushes and raping her and your scenario and a young woman who wishes she hadn't had that third gin and tonic and woken up next to the guy she now kind of wishes she hadn't had sex with.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


If I had my way, rape* would be a capital offense and abortion of rape-induced pregnancy would be all but mandatory.

*real rape, not the weird fantasy versions now peddaled by feminists

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


If she can't have kids, then why keep her alive? (the "pro-life" view)

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


childish and nasty are his middle names....

My own feelings are around what you might call 'natural viability' (the ability of the fetus to survive outside the woman without massive medical intervention) which if I recall is somewhere in the 5th month or so.

Basically the earlier in the pregnancy the easier abortion should be, by the beginning of the 6th month it should be reserved for cases where the mother's health is in danger.

It's hard to put things like that into law though because of various confounding factors.

When you combine that with the well-known tendency in Poland to pass poorly written ambiguous legislation then you have a legal nightmare.

There is no cross cultural or cross individual consensus on the sanctity of fetal life (or when human existence begins*). Individuals should use their own conscience about abortion and not use force to try to turn women into glorified fertilized egg recepticles....

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


The Catholic Church is run by sexual deviants (since celibacy is not normal or natural).

A full ban on all pregnancy terminations is about women being breeding stock and nothing more. If a woman is raped and becomes pregnant, then the most moral thing she can do is abort (and prevent the rapists' genes from being carried on).

Do most Poles really want more cases like that of Savita Halappanavar in Poland?

theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/14/ireland-woman-dies-after-abortion-refusal

If the sexual deviants in charge of the RC church want to discourage women from having abortions, then that's their right (including excluding them from the church). They should have no right to determine the behavior of those who are not Roman Catholics.

News / Goran Bregovic`s concerts banned from Poland ? [30]


Here's a song you might enjoy:

youtube.com/watch?v=-rQtiw0LSx4

What you're feeling now is called "triggered" :)

News / Goran Bregovic`s concerts banned from Poland ? [30]


Sanctions are a normal part of diplomacy. The current rule is (roughly): Do business in the Crimea or the EU, your choice. He chose Crimea.


It's a multi/supra-national entity that has some foreign policy in common and sanctions against Russian military expansionism is part of that common policy.


It's actually pretty normal. In 2008 Bjork has a performance in Serbia cancelled because she had dedicated a song to Kosovan independence during a concert in Tokyo.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


For an English speaker (esp if they know some German) the mainland Scandinavian languages are super easy to learn to read (speaking, understanding and writing will be harder).

And Polish grammar makes Swedish grammar look positively non-existent....

News / Goran Bregovic`s concerts banned from Poland ? [30]


The EU has sanctions against doing business in Crimea. He was doing business there (performing and presumably getting paid). That means he can't play in Poland for the time being.


The referendum was carried out under military occupation (Putin later admitted the "civilians" who took over government buildings were Russian special forces in umarked uniforms. There was no debate (beyond labelling anyone who wanted to stay in Ukraine a nazi) and there was no option for the status quo on the ballot. It might be that if a free and fair election were to be held then a majority would vote to join Russia but it wasn't free and fair (by any rational standard) and so Crimeans are paying the price for aiding and abetting lawlessness.

And if that weren't enough it was completely fraudulent. Some places had more votes cast than residents.

I understand that you (and maybe most Serbians) don't believe in the rule of law. but it's kind of an important European value.


For proponents of thugonationalism maybe. For normal people there aren't.

News / Goran Bregovic`s concerts banned from Poland ? [30]


He's not banned because of his opininion (which no one cares about, artists are typically stupid about everything but their own field of art) but because of his actions which violated the sanctions regime against Russian occupied Crimea.


What common ground can you have with a military invader? In the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, Poland is on Ukraine's side.

News / Goran Bregovic`s concerts banned from Poland ? [30]


He's supporting military aggressive expansionism against a peaceful country. Crimea may be Russian for the time being but it will also be an economic no man's land. And that's as it should be.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


A lot depends on knowing the language (well above functional level, being able to understand the nightly news and able to read newspapers and fiction are kind of a must), having a job (or some kind of purposeful activity) and some social contacts (not just other foreigners and not just Polish people) and living in a decent sized city. With one of those missing it can be a long, hard haul, but with those it's just fine. I know lots of people who planned on being in Poland for just a year or so and stayed for much longer.


Well translator/interpreter training / certification in Poland leaves a lot to be desired in any number of ways (but that's a separate topic for me to rant about).

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


How is it that you expect this to be profitable? For who?

How do you plan on navigating Polish bureaucracy (which is not noted for being user friendly)?

Poland is basically a great place to live, but you don't necessarily want to visit there. It can be great in the long run but the short run is going to feature a lot of adjustment and/or frustrations. A _lot_ depends on knowing the language well enough to deal with the bureaucracy on your own without a translator or lawyer around. The chance of bureaucrats (or lawyers!) knowing English well enough to provide you with good advice and/or accurate information is not... high. A random translator is liable to not know legal terminology well enough to be much use either.

I don't want to sound too discouraging but Poland is not really a country that can be that profitable on the basis of occasional visits...

News / Kukiz and Petru - newly emerging political stage in Poland [57]


The n-acute is not required in English.


youtube.com/watch?v=iYVO5bUFww0

News / Kukiz and Petru - newly emerging political stage in Poland [57]


Leaving one true party in total power! Just like your good old days in the PRL!

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


Are you Swedish?

I've long been kind of interested in Scandinavian languages and culture but I don't think I could ever live there. Also more and more all of western Europe seems kind of.... off. The places I'm most interested in now are almost all east of the German/Italian language areas.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


Most Polish people don't have much info on the day to day lives of Poles there (or know how many there are or what they're doing).


The traditional stereotype of Sweden in Poland isn't that bad, it's of tall blonde people who do pretty well and who often have idealistic but silly notions that never work in the real world (like inviting hundreds of thousands of people who hate the basic values of Swedish culture into their country).


You need to up your insults, 'mother's basement' is not an insult in Poland where people never live in basement's (most people live in apartments and I've never heard of basements being converted into living areas, I suppose it's happened but.....

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [241]


In this study 41 % of allegations were fabricated.


You mean Dunham sexually assaulting her sister?


reading a bunch of feminist sites, where every possible counter-indication of 'rape' occurring (including consentual encounters before and after the 'rape' and agrressive sexual pursuit of the 'rapist' after the fact) are waved away as irrelevant.

then there's always this insanity, you're welcome (piv is a reference to traditional heterosexual intercourse)

witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [241]

Rape is a horrific crime and I'd be fin favor of capital punishment when it can be proven.

But feminists have pushed a bunch of bullsh1t numbers that are simply not true.

thefederalist.com/2014/12/11/new-doj-data-on-sexual-assaults-college-students-are-actually-less-likely-to-be-victimized

And feminists are also pushing nonsense like "affirmative consent" laws while the only logical conclusion of many of their other arguments is that nothing a woman says (up to and including the words "I consent") or does before, during or after sex indicates that she consented.

The feminist party line is also now that women never say they've been raped when they haven't while in the real world it's quite clear that many women do. For a celebrity example, see Lena Dunham.

I'd say if anything I take rape more seriously than most feminists who keep making up nonsense to further their political aims.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [241]


just not part of the great part (after it descended into gangster and bling nihilism) some rap though about 1993 or so was really creative, now? not so much...


not the first person to record 'hound dog'. who was?

youtube.com/watch?v=yoHDrzw-RPg

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [241]

Well African Americans have one of _the_ great music traditions in the world (or did until rap/hiphop robbed it of its creative juices about 20 years ago).

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [241]


Another fan! She's a huuuuuuuuge favorite of mine. Often called "The godmother of rock 'n roll", it's a shame and a disgrace that she's not in the rock and roll hall of fame.

But she was hardly the first, speed this up a little and electrify it and it's pure rock 'n roll from 1929

youtube.com/watch?v=UuY6NROhCQw

Or this from 1938

youtube.com/watch?v=nTOK-Z7g6Gk

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [241]

Pretty much all the elements of rock and roll can be found in "race" records* from as early as the 1920s, just not all together on the same recording and/or acoustic rather than electric. (phrases like a'rockin' and a'rollin' can also be found in the 1920s).

By the late 40s American Blacks were making records that sound pretty much exactly like rock and roll which didn't get the name rock and roll until the mid 1950s.

*race records were the first records both performed by and marketed to African Americans and began in the early 1920s, some people claim there was an earlier market but the recordings are presumed lost...