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Under what (non-retroactive) laws?


Known victims.... provable how?

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Not my case at all. I even spent several years working with a very disadvantaged social group. They had a very rough couple of years in the early 90s but they're doing a lot better now. I've only had very passing contact with anyone in any government.


Again, prove crimes by people and I'm all for putting them in jail. But the only remedy that you'll except requires legal obscenities like retro-active legislation (probably where PiS is headed).

I think a good index is "Sprawa dla reportera". I remember when they had real stories about real hardships and victims of official (and private) misdeeds. On the last one I kind of accidentally saw it was reduced to trying to dramatize clearly very dysfunctional families (for example a village where two families were feuding over a fence).

Bring up real, concrete cases of heroes of Solidarity living on starvation pensions and we'll talk.

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It should be noted again and again and again and again that KACZYŃSKI PLAYED NO ROLE IN THE ELECTION!!!!! He was kept well out of sight for the duration. Gullible voters thought that maybe PiS was turning into a more normal Christian dEmocrat party and many felt cheated by the cynicism involved of him taking over (and appointing MAcierewicz after promises he would play no role in a PiS government).


Every party in power for long enough sees voters turn against them, that's pretty normal (in developed countries established ruling parties sometimes lose on purpose to trim the party fat and get back into fighting trim). And note that PiS's numbers go downhill whenever they pursue their weird jihad against Donald Tusk. The question is will they learn from this or double down on stupid (I'm betting the latter).

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I've spent most of my time since 1991 here.... and I simply haven't seen the scenario you describe play out. Overall, it's close to a mirror image. I've seen a Poland where a large majority are far better off now than they were in the early 90s (when there were a couple of really dicey years). Of course the process hasn't been easy or smooth and the rewards haven't been evenly distributed (which is impossible) but mostly the people who really haven't thrived.... would not thrive in any system because of a lack of education and initiative and social capital (ability to adapt to new situations).

Joining the EU helped a lot both in terms of infrastructural aid and in letting Poland export its employable unemployed though Poland may be approaching peak EU (and might need to disengage). The biggest problem in cities now is not a lack of jobs but a lack of applicants (and the problems of wages taking time to catch up with demand, a perennial problem in a developing economy).

This is all pretty much the mirror image of the Poland that PiS describes (with a small minority in luxury and everyone else in misery) so I can't support them or believe that they have answers since their answers are all aimed at a reality I don't live in where more people are doing better than the opposite.

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How does believing in this fairytale help you get through the day? There must be some benefit to imagining that everything that goes wrong can be traced to a small group of people.... but what?

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And a good thing too because the country would have plunged into a major depression (about 10 times worse than what really happened)


Does this include Rosiewicz? Mr PiS sing-a-long? How did he escape?


Why is the current government so pathologically incapable of admitting mistakes? Or does being a patriot mean never having to say you're sorry?

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Which is why you're not a PiS supporter! (rim shot)

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Huh what do they hope to accomplish besides rallying their base of losers? What are the suing them for? Reporting the truth?

Again, the structure of PiS mostly prevents the hiring or appointment of qualified people so they get a menagerie of party hacks and boobs and conmen

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PiS is essentially PRL with catholicism and nationalism in place of communism they systematically repeat PRL ways of doing things
- making the party leader the most powerful person in the country
- appointing loyal but incompetent people who predictably make a shambles of things
- trying to turn institutions like schools and media into their PRL incarnations

What I want in a political party
- rule of law over 'the ends justify the means'
- economic reality rather than free cookies for votes
- social capital over connections
- social cohesion over ideological warfare
- international realism rather than making enemies for no reason
- personal and national responsibility instead of looking for scapegoats

No party in Poland comes close to this, so please stop saying I support PO (beyond being very slightly less horrible on those issues than PiS).

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It looks like PiS has decided to shut down the Opole racket (less money for the city but more ideological purity!)


I'm sure you don't. I can live with that.


I don't support PO except as being very nominally not as terrible as PiS (and PO is far less rooted in PRL organizational culture than is PiS).

I'm fiscally moderate and socially liberal but I believe in concepts like social capital and the importance of civil society, transparency and the rule of law so there's pretty much no political home for me in Poland (or much of anywhere else).

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In other words, performers were being difficult and tempremental.... like all performers everywhre are at times. The head of TVP is supposed to be able to deal with that. If he can't then.... wrong person in the job.


people skills - PiS ain't got 'em


JK cannot pick good people and so his bad choices at the top roll down throughout the whole rotten structure...

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The fiasco began when the head of TVP decided to "live in the past" and act like a rotten PRL boss trying to de-platform an artist who wasn't sufficiently obsequious toward the neo-PRL government.

The director has now also resigned.

A full-scaled disaster that has to be laid at the door of the intiator - Kurski and PiS. In true PiS fashion, they will blame everyone but their own incompetence.

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Since when are artists supposed to suck up to the government? Oh yeah IN THE PRL! Everything old is new again....


Kurski was hoping to save things with a concern in honor of Wojciech Młynarski who died in March... but his family wanted nothing to do with it.

The absoltue latest is that the mayor says that TVP is in no position to honor its contract and wants to take over the concert which will (this year) be delayed until the Fall.

The whole fiasco really crystalizes JK's biggest flaw - he can't pick people to run things (which means he's a bad leader), like the commies he prizes loyalty above all and so he's always appointed incompetent and/or mentally disturbed people to important positions.

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Yes, Kurski and PiS certainly are responsible for sabotagind that! Making an exception to their terrible policy of blackballing governmnet unapproved artists does not right the wrong - which is why Kayah (and many others) have withdrawn.


That was entirely due to PiS wanting to distract attention from the brave Poznanian struggle against the communists and make it about his Smolensk death porn obsession.

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Meanwhile back in reality, Kayah decided not to perform because she couldn't in good conscience when TVP is still blackballing those who are not sufficiently enthusiastic about the current government... (inc Natalia Przybysz and Artur Andrus)

Then the resignations began rolling in and now count Kasia Nosowska,Kasia Kowalska, Michał Szpak, Andrzej Orzech (announcer) and two artists who were set to be honored for the 25 and 50 anniversaries of their careers (Andrzej Piaseczny and Maryla Rodowicz respectively).

The mayor of the city is in panic mode as Kurski's cack-handed mismanagement is turning one of his city's major trademarks into a symbol of artistic censorship.

After the fiasco of last year's Pride of Poland (an international trademark all but ruined do to political appointments) a Polish trademark is set to be downgraded because the PRL style of the current government cannot separate art and politics.

I suppose they could get a bunch of pro PiS performers instead, but who wants to see that?

youtube.com/watch?v=wJfZ9OsKb8E

youtube.com/watch?v=AwlkasMQ5a0
How do you say "trainwreck" (in the sense of artistic disaster) in Polish?

Food / What Polish foods do foreigners generally not take to? [140]


I knew headcheese form the states (along with souse, headcheese made with vinegar, and pickeld pigs feet) so those weren't too unusual.

Does anywhere in Poland make anything like utopenec (pl utopenci) which are pickled bratwurst? Quite tasty when done well but I've never seen anything like it in Poland.... (pyzy from wielkopolska are very similar to Czech knedliky).

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Oddly, it has a kind of sweet chocolatish taste (an American co-worker said her Polish father called it chocolate soup and she loved it..... until she found out the secret ingredient after which she couldn't touch it....)

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dont' be ridiculous, he's no more a Christian than I am....

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Won't or not smart enough?
I love the Polish language but it's not something that can be picked up casually or without committed systematic effort (unless you're a child acquiring the language naturally).

Not learning a local language despite living there for years is always attributable to some combination of dumb and lazy...

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Why are you so hostile toward your native language?

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The unfortunates don't realize that JK has no real incentive to make things better for them... He has every incentive to keep preaching to them that their problems are due to the commies (or flying purple dolphins or whatever). If they begin to think of themselves as non-victims then they might decide to vote for another party, as long as they have imaginary bogeymen to blame their problems on then they'll stick with PiS no matter what.

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Parties don't have presidents in English..... In America they have Chairs (Chairman or Chairwoman) and in the UK they have Leaders which doesn't seem to have an honorific

Chairman Kaczyński is the best translation for Americans.


He is that, as long as he doesn't get sidetracked with one of his jihads against one of his (very many) personal enemies.... but he has no self control in that area so if Tusk is smart he'll periodically and strategically taunt Kaczyński....


In words like czekanie yes, it coule be hispanicized as checañe but a word like cachiñsqui is impossible in Spanish... And most Polish speakers pronounce it like a nasalized j before s, so that Gdańsk sounds like Gdajnsk (where the n just nasalizes the j in front of it)

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This guy agrees

youtube.com/watch?v=bbV6O2VIpzg

translation wystarczy cztery ziobra by Polska była dobra (singing translation: we need Ziobro times four, so Poland won't be poor)

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The point is my friend had/did none of that, and gets very angry with PıSS mouthpieces who suggest that only ex-commies have been successful. It plays well with the resentful base of the PıSS party but it doesn't play well with those who've succeeded on their own merits.

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You really missed your calling, you should have been an author of communist propaganda back when there was a (captive) audience for stuff like that....

The years of suppression also coincided with escaping the effects of a worldwide financial crisis and huge improvements to infrastructure and living standards, but don't let that bother you...

I have a friend from a small village (family of farmers) in the countryside who has been very successful though hard work and diligence and they become enraged when they hear PıSS supporters claim that only those with commie connections have been successful.

Why is PıSS so eager to alienate successful educated people? What does that say about their supporters?

Law / Lost without my daughter - father rights in Poland [32]


Or she doesn't want the school associating her "father" with a specific face that might change? This is sounding more and more like she's conning you (and maybe others).

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Now my interpretation of this is that she knows you may not the father (and you may well not be the only one she's squeezing for goodies).

Proceed on the assumption that she's lying to you (since she has a track record in that department) if she's not woman enough to prove you're the father she doesn't deserive one red cent.

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Especially for Americans, many of whom don't really distinguish between ogórki kwaszone (brined) and konserwowe (pickled) cucumbers...

One of the weirdest comments I remember about Polish food was an Irish colleague who one day at lunch said his (ogórkowy) soup had "that Polish taste" it turned out he was talking about dill.

I sometimes think one of the unremarked boundaries in Europe is the dill belt (countries where fresh dill is added to many different kinds of dishes) and those where it isn't. In Romania I once had moussaka that had dill in it. It was delicious.

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I'll stop saying pierogies when Polish people stop saying Ekismosi, hipisi and Beatelsi

In (American) English the most common forms are

one pierogi, twp pierogies