Genealogy / Origins of Polish Genetics [17]


A rather ungentlemanly thing to do, but that would mean that their daughters, long time ago, were already half-Germanic, half-Slavic; and as we know from history the Germanic husbands came back with a vengeance (more than once!) and planted their seed, so it all mixed again. So, Slavs fought back and... etc. etc. etc.

Of course, Mongols, who are not Slavic, and Turks rolled over our lands more than once too. Some Tatars even stayed permanently. We mixed our dynasties (and genes) with the Balts as well (the whole Jagiellon dynasty). Swedes did their part, and we had throngs of Italian and Dutch settlers. Jews were always a closed community... but not THAT closed; in Austrian partition all sorts of mixing was going on... and so on.

To talk about nations today in terms of genetics would seem to be slightly retarded.

Genealogy / Origins of Polish Genetics [17]


What? Wait a minute... so Poles are Germanic from our mums' side?

So, I now have to switch from pan-Slavism to pan-Germanism?

What about Serbians? Are they Germanic too? Where is Crow when we need him?

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


You're right, as usual, BB. :)

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Sure, I know that. But still - that's about 20 bucks a month per capita, whilst Polish GDP is $26,810 (nominal) and $55,190 (PPP).

Don't get me wrong, BB, the money was very useful, especially in the first phase of the transformation; but the way Poland looks today is the result of millions of Poles working their arses off in two (sometimes three) jobs, doing overtime, creating their businesses, going abroad and sending money home, saving, investing and building a better and richer Poland for our children. That's why it annoys me when somebody (not only Ukrainians) makes it sound like Poland got rich only because EU flooded us with money.

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Damn it, I just realised that €170 billion divided by 40 million Poles is about 4200 euro... divided by 20 years is 212,5 euros!
So, every Pole got about 213 euros a year, for 20 years from the EU. That's about 18 euros a month!!!

18 f*cking hard-cash euros a month - that would be enough to pay for using PF! ($20 seems to be an average contribution).

Hmm... maybe those Ukrainians are right. Maybe it was the EU money that made us so stinking rich today! :)

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Speak for yourself.

Mine is not that little.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Ukraine? [44]


I suppose it's because he killed the legend.

The legend of freedom and democracy and noble American knights fighting for it. The legend of the USA standing up for everything good against everything evil. The legend of common values of the Western World being more important than money or current political gains.

He is the guy who came into a room full of kids and said: "There is no Santa Claus, you little retards!".

Hence the hatred, I suppose. Nobody like when his legends are killed.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Oh, I would. Right away.

There is no such thing as free money - there are always strings attached. Wealth is built by hard work, thrift and discipline, not by handouts. Polish politicians, however, are much more easily bribed than I am. Alas.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Ukraine? [44]


Southpark is not a European TV series.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Ukraine? [44]


That's a bit harsh on President Trump.

Not as harsh as the recent Southpark episode, but still.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


That's just retarded.


By practically building their entire heavy industry and gifting them lands that never belonged to Ukraine in the past?


In 20 years (2004-2024) Poland received about €260 billion from the EU, mostly in EU Cohesion Policy and Common Agricultural Policy. We paid about €90 billion in member-state contributions, so our net gain is €170 billion. It is about 16% of our current GDP, divided by 20 years gives around 0.8% of GDP every year. A nice money, for sure - every little helps - but to say that Polish success is the result of this 0.8% would be to overlook the remaining 99.2%. :)


I am stealing this phrase to use it in my future discussions with Ukrainians.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


A correction here: it was Ukrainian Schutzmannschaft Bataillon der Sicherheitspolizei and a Ukrainian police company, not Galizien units.


You do not "discuss". You pray, you ask for her wisdom and humility in accepting God's will, and you offer your services as her knight and slave.


Colour me unsurprised. We are the perfect scape-goat. I said it a long time ago - if Ukrainians lose against Russia, they will somehow find a way to blame Poland for it.

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A pessimistic cynic? Hmm...

In 1965, Marek Hłasko - a famous Polish writer - wrote how in 1944 in Warsaw he saw six Ukrainians rape a Polish girl (Hłasko's neighbour from the same house) and then use a teaspoon to extract her eyes, while all the time laughing and making jokes. Even German historians (e.g. Guenther Deschner), investigating the participation of Ukrainian units (including 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS - Galizien) in suppressing the Warsaw Uprising, were shocked by the bestiality displayed by the Ukrainians. Today, the same Waffen-SS unit is celebrated in Ukraine and considered heroes.

Ask me again if I am a pessimistic cynic.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


It depends how we define "win". From the Polish point of view, a minor Russian victory would probably be a slightly better option.

A minor Russian victory might (just might) postpone the beginning of World War 3 a bit, and a weakened 20-22 million Ukraine, without their most industrialised areas and natural riches, and with limited access to the sea could be invited to join the EU. Such Ukraine could even continue worshipping their Waffen-SS heroes and murderous UPA banderists. They would still be retarded but at least would cease to be a threat to Poland.

As for Russia, they were our enemy for most of our history, they are our enemy now, and will continue to be one in the foreseeable future, so there's no change here. In other words, a minor Russian victory would mean one threat to Poland in the east, instead of two threats.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


We are partially ourselves to blame here. From the very first day of this war, Polish trains with weapons, ammo and medical aid started rolling through the border, we took in millions of their refugees, granting them social benefits, kindergeld, free healthcare on all levels and education, we provided them with Starlinks, fuel, electricity etc. We kept saying that Ukraine is fighting for Poland, that we would do everything for them, that we are servants of Ukrainians and so on. So, they got used to it and started taking it for granted.

We should have adopted the early German and then Hungarian/Slovakian stance from the very beginning. Ah, well...

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Chill out, Grunni. All we have to do is adopt a more Hungarian-Slovakian approach towards the Ukrainian-Russian conflict, and it will happen after 2027 elections. Until then, we have to grin and bear it.


Of course they are. Just like Germany still worshipping Hitler, Himmler and Heydrich would be a threat to us, so Ukraine openly worshipping Bandera, Shukhevych, Klyachkivsky etc. is a threat to us. That's why we have to elect to power politicians who can clearly see it, and currently only Konfederacja displays a certain dose of healthy realism towards the Ukrainian issue.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


I already told you a month ago - Zelensky decided that Ukraine will export military technology and will cooperate in weapons production with: Denmark, Canada, Germany, Great Britain, Norway and even Lithuania.

Poland, as you can see, is not on that list. However, Poland is welcome to contribute 0.25% of Polish GDP to Ukrainian defense sector...

businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/ukraina-bedzie-produkowac-bron-za-zachodzie-lista-krajow/ksgh4xm

... they spit in Tusk's face and he says it's raining.

Ukrainian politicians said on multiple occasions that they view Poland as a competitor in many fields and their actions only confirm their words. It is our retarded politicians who refuse to listen to what they hear, and expect that Ukraine will show gratitude (lol) to Poland for everything we did for them.

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Bobko wrote 'the Virgin' - with 'the' and capital 'V', so stop asking retarded questions.

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❤️

Truly a knight! I'd rather have him as a friend than an enemy.


Peasants.

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Fair play to him.

I think you told me about him when he became the minister - a devout Christian and a servant of Saint Virgin Mary (or am I confusing him with someone else?).

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Hmm... if you put it this way.


Amazing how drones changed the battlefields.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Ukraine? [44]


One way or another, it's going to be interesting and perhaps not the worst scenario for Poland either.

Still can't believe how much Tusk managed to f*ck up pretty much everything in such a short period of time.

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Is there really much worse than shooting your own wounded soldiers? Much worse than waging a brotherly war for 3 years already and without end in sight? Much worse than becoming a de facto Chinese vassal, dependent on Iran and North Korea for war materials supplies?

Come on, Bobi. Russia is better than that. The best (and the first!) thing to do when you want to get out of a deep hole is to stop digging. Sorry for stating the obvious.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Ukraine? [44]


Not yet in 2027.

If not PiS-Konfa, then PiS-PSL is another option (but Konfederacja would be a more attractive partner - they will definitely have more seats).

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Ukraine? [44]


Ukrainian population in 2022, right before the Russian invasion, was 41.5 million. Today optimists say 32 million, realists say 24.


No. Ukrainians are simply not added to the Polish population statistics. They are considered war refugees who will go back to their country after the war is over (lol!).
The population of Gdańsk in 2022 was 486,000...

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludno%C5%9B%C4%87_Gda%C5%84ska

... well over 100,000 Ukrainians live in Gdańsk, some sources even estimate that every fourth inhabitant of our city is Ukrainian. What is the official population of Gdańsk these days? Wait for it... 488,000. :D Lies, great lies, statistics.


Tusk is history. In two years Kaczynski will come back (with Mentzen and Bosak as his sidekicks). It's going to be fun.

History / How much Poles trust to France? [130]


If Kaczynski is the groom, who is the German bride? :)

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Not those poor sods.

I meant those who care about Russia and can actually do something to stop the madness.


Order is an order. War is a sh*tty affair.

History / How much Poles trust to France? [130]

The French and the British are our best friends these days. This is not good. Not good at all.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Colour me unsurprised.

Once again I will ask this question: when will Russian patriots wake up and stop this madman?

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Ukraine? [44]


Poland's population, counting Ukrainians who are here to stay, is about 40 million. Ukraine's is about 24 million, and if they think those who have been living abroad for the past three years will come back after the war is over, they have to think again.