News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

It depends. Some are owned by corps/llcs, others by associations, but almost never by government. Some old dilapidated buildings are at the very bottom of polish peoples and governments list of concerns.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

First off it's kamienicy not kamieniczy, and kamienicy refers to the the buildings in city squares which are extremely expensive with many in wroclaw plus going for 7 figures plus. They are historical buildings most of which have been rebuilt after ww2 according to old photos, blueprints etc especially in warsaw

These kamienicy definitely need to be condemned...

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News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

And who exactly is going to pay for the millions of people living in bloki? You think pis costs a lot the cost to condemn, destroy and rehouse everyone would be exponentially more.

Maybe the EU can pay for it. They've already given Poland billions, why not a few dozen more?

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Higher average iq, higher education levels, higher income, higher overall contribution to society....


A) not the EU's job
B) That's Polish jurisprudence
C) Most importantly - no one in Poland really cares....

Yeah sure, let's destroy all the old bloki because they don't compare to the new shiny glass condos. Than what do you supposed we do with all the lower middle class families and pensioners living in those bloki? You complain about 500zs, yet do you have any clue what the cost would be to rehouse all those people?

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

The worst polish slum now or during communism is like Beverly hills compared to the living conditions most third worlders lived or currently live in

Life / Are Poles suspicious of Facebook? [50]

It's not just of other nations poles are suspicious of each other and many western inventions too like microwaves for example. We also tend to be quite superstitious. There's also a sort of attitude especially amongst the prl generation where they feel like everyone is going to screw them over and they always have their guard up. Poles are cwaniaki so its understandable.

Life / Are Poles suspicious of Facebook? [50]

Poles are suspicious of everything...

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

I've heard that in Russian but never polish

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


No. My father came from Poland - a country that despite being under Soviet rule had a modern society and rebuilt itself from ww2. He is not from a sandbox or jungle pretending to be a country where most people live without electricity let alone indoor plumbing to this day - their lives aren't that much different from centuries ago save for what technologies European people gave them. Places that washed themselves with elephant **** while poles were mapping the solar system, building cathedrals, and wiping out the muslim invaders at vienna. Poland is not the turd world and it never has been. That label belongs to the ******** countries who people are flooding w Europe and refuse to work and thus are supported to the tune of 25 bill year in Germany alone. The same people and I use that term loosely, that Merkel wanted to flood Poland with. But poles firmly said NO ******* WAY. And majority of poles still don't want them. Hell half of poles don't even want ukranians around.


Good for you. But that's not what 3/4 of the Polish population wants.


Actually I'm more than happy to associate myself with people who share my views. Most poles don't want that **** and that's a fact

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They are still stuck with hordes of turd worlders to this day. And the vast majority, over 90% aren't refugees, they're economic migrants that come to leech benefits. That's a fact. That's also why the majority of turn are unemployed - they get more from countries like Germany for free than they'd ever make back home working. There's no incentive for these "doctors and engineers" to work. Even if they wanted to their education levels and skills are far below what is needed to be successful in Europe as it is a far more advanced society than the sandbox or jungle from which they came.

More proof that Germany dominates the EU... Funny because I don't recall any poles, Greeks, Italians having an election where they can vote for Merkel, junckers, etc. Some democratic institution....

Is that why the majority of Greeks and Italians are against the EU?


Yeah that's really evident considering they aren't even recognized unless they belong to a major party. And if they have to use a translator, as the mep pointed out, they don't even know if the vote they cast is actually being counted

Yes, some minor restrictions. Poles and Germans have engaged in trade for centuries and the EU sure as hell didn't create that.

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Not only that but Italy Greece and to an extent Spain were absolutely ravaged by merkels decision to invite millions of 'doctors and engineers' from the turd world which thanks to Dublin many remained in Italy, Greece, etc.


Everyone knows Germany has the most power in the EU. That's clear as day. There is no equality and that's precisely what Poland is fighting for right now - to be treated as an equal and not someone who is lectured to by w European countries especially Germany.

The way the European parliament votes on issues is one of the best example of how unequal and undemocratic and simply ridiculous the EU is.

The video describes it perfectly
youtu.be/lzigiPUXNzI


Wtf are you talking about before the EU it wasn't a problem at all to go into Germany. Lot of young people even from my own family would work in Germany over the summer months to make some extra cash.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

Those countries especially Italy pay billions to the EU, of which a big chunk goes into Polands pocket. So yes, the EU definitely contributed to their economic problems due to mandatory payments or basically extortion as I see it


Oh bullshit. Everyone knows Germany and Brussels dominate the EU. Idk how you could even write something so inherently untrue.


Poland had access to German market well before the EU. Germany has been Polands biggest trade partner for centuries due to geography and economics, not because of the EU

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Not really because a) Poland's major trade partners today are the same it had in the 90's before accession, and b) the EU only gave Poland an opportunity - it was up to Poland to allocate resources wisely, which it did unlike other new members like Bulgaria, Romania, etc. which lag behind because even though they have the exact same access as Poland, they did not take advantage of the situation, they poorly allocated resources, etc. In other cases, the EU has caused major problems for countries like Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy (known as the PIGS countries).

The EU was merely an opportunity - it was up to Poland and Polish people to take advantage of it which obviously we did. .

Also, I said E. European countries were among those whos trade had the highest growth rates over that past 5 years - some of those E European countries are EU, some not. And they aren't my calculations - it is data I am using to support my claim.

Again, the EU was merely an opportunity - it was up to Poland to take advantage of it as much as possible which it most certainly did. It milked 100 billion euros and opened up countries for Poles to work in and send remittances, send products, etc. The EU provides certain benefits for trade amongst members - there's no doubt about that. But it's up to a country and its people to take advantage of that.


I'm well aware that the largest trading partners of Poland are W. European EU nations. I never denied that.

What I said is that those same countries that account for most of Poland's trade are the same countries that accounted for most of Poland's trade back in the 90's and even before the PRL years i.e. II republic AND that trade with those countries is stagnating while other countries - both eu and non - like Ukraine, Romania, Czechy, UAE, Brazil, Russia, etc. is growing rapidly, and now Russia, Czechy, and Ukraine are in the top 10 trade partners.

Genealogy / What are common Polish character traits? [425]


I'd have to disagree with that. Poles are very family oriented when compared to many other countries - way more so than USA. But yes, this is something that sadly has declined a lot. It's part of globalism quite frankly. Under communism and even up until perhaps a decade ago the family was very close - grandparents, uncles, cousins, everyone would meet up regularly. No one would think of abandoning their parents once they get old. It was also common for several generations to live in the same household which is pretty rare now except for rural areas. Still though, I feel that Poles are more family oriented than many other nations, but less so than say like Italy, Mexico, etc. Now the youth in Poland just goes their own way eventually get married, have kids, and they lose touch with extended family.

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Indeed, but time passes quickly. Ukraine was a minor trading partner just a decade ago. Now it's the 8th largest. Russia and Czech republics trade has also grown enormously.


Seeing as I was born there and remember 90s and early 00s Poland i'm well aware of how it's worth has changed over the years. And FYI Polands highest growth quarter was q1 1997 and if you look at a chart of gdp since the 90s to today it's been roughly the same pre accession and post accession. tradingeconomics.com/poland/gdp-growth

Yes, Poles are wealthier. But that's not solely because of the EU. It's because poles are smart, hard working, used the EU funds wisely, created tons of small businesses, and invested wisely. The EU didn't sprinkle some fairy dust and suddenly make Poland wealthy. The EU helped, but only in a supplemental way. If the EU was somehow a magic cure for poverty countries like Bulgaria Romania etc wouldn't be poor. It's Polands own tenacity, wisdom, conservative attitude towards investing, hard work and ingenuity that made Poland rich. Greece got a ton of money and what did they spend it on? A stadium that's empty now. Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, etc also got a ton of money which relative to their population is about equal to Poland. Yet they didn't grow the same way Poland did. Quite simply poles took advantage of the situation, the times, and their resources better than them.


No **** Sherlock. 100 billion is going to be a positive for any country. I don't want Poland to leave EU either as long as it's getting money and there's freedom of movement. Question is whether there will be changes to Schengen, which has already been proposed, and Poland one day has to pay money for countries like Albania to join will poles still support EU the same way. That remains to be seen.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

The economist

Exports to developing countries continued to expand at the strongest pace, growing by 13% year

I know percentages are challenging but this should be simple enough for you
countries.bridgat.com/Poland_Trade_Partners.html

5 year growth percentage: Bulgaria 227% Ukraine 194%, uae 645%, Russia 200%, czechy 172% Brazil 290% etc

Versus traditional partners Germany 88%, Netherlands 103%, Italy 118% France 130%. None of these traditional trade partners or any other w European countries, except Luxembourg, experienced 200%+ growth rates.

So again, my statement that trade with countries in eastern Europe, Asia, middle East, etc is growing at a higher pace than Polands traditional w European partnerslike Germany, France, Netherlands is totally accurate and backed up by cold hard facts and data

And FYI I would never go to a college that promotes safe spaces and has an ultra liberal student body. I prefer Jesuit and Catholic schools since they atleast have some semblance of resisting the current clown world with it's promotion of mult kulti and butt seks. When a kid can write black lives matter 100x as his college entrance essay and be let in I sure as hell won't go to uni like that.

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They are still poor. They were poor before eu and still are.

I sure as hell know a lot more about Poland, polish people and polish culture than you do, you can bet on that. I doubt you're even proficient in polish let alone fluent. What have I written that isn't correct then? The data proves what I wrote. The trade partners that Poland has now are the same theyve always had - the EU didn't establish those partnerships they were always there, and the two, three even sixfold increase in growth over the past five years aren't with western EU nations, as the data proves.

You can diss my education all you want but at the end of the day it's clearly you who can't understand something as simple as percentages.

Genealogy / What are common Polish character traits? [425]


Not at all. For example German people are more orderly, not superstitious, less traditional, not as hospitable, not nearly as gossping, etc. Or even take British they're far more friendly to strangers than Poles, far more trusting whereas poles generally assume a stranger has an ulterior motive for being nice. Chinese are more shrewd. people from carribean are not as materialistic, they're lazier, relaxed and even move slow while Poles generally are hard working and always seem to be busy or in a rush especially urban poles

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Poland's main trade partners i.e. Germany, Netherlands, France, Italy, etc. are the same now as they were 20, 30 even centuries ago. EU didn't form those partnerships - trade with those countries has been in Poland's history for ages.

Being 'on track' or even having EU membership doesn't suddenly make other countries including EU countries drastically increase trade all of sudden - if that were true Romania, Bulgaria, etc. would be far richer and their exports should've increased dramatically, but of course they did not. It was a minor gradual increase, which they would've likely achieved without the EU just like Poland. The only thing that Poland got was 100 billion EU which hopefully the w Europeans will continue to give us so we can fix our sidewalks, build roads, paint gyms, and give contractrs to polish friends.


The point is that the GROWTH in trade, as PROVEN by the data/links above, is not with these traditional partners but rather eastern European countries, Asia, M.E.

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Yes and facts show that export growth by percentage is coming from countries outside of the EU. There's no two or let alone sixfold increase with france or italy. Trade w western Europe is basically stagnant, but trade with e European countries, Asia and parts of latam are growing at a far higher pace. Facts and data also show that polands top trade partners are the same today as they were well before eu accession.

countries.bridgat.com/Poland_Trade_Partners.html

Germany has been Polands biggest trade partner well before the EU. Same with France, UK, netherlands, etc. Hell Poland was even exporting cars during prl. So to say that it's thanks to the EU that Poland somehow gained a bunch of trade partnerships is b.s.

And here's the proof - Polands top trade partners in 1995 almost decade before EU entry- Germany, Netherlands, italy, etc. All the same countries that are Polands top trade partners today. EU didn't create those partnerships they existed well before accession .

wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/POL/Year/1995/Summarytext

Genealogy / What are common Polish character traits? [425]

Back in the day polish people would dry their clothes on a clothesline in the summer. A lot still don't use microwaves.

Shouldve also added superstitious to that character trait list. There's so many superstitions poles believe in like not welcoming/saying bye while talking in the doorway, going back home because you forgot something is bad luck, when someone sneezes it means they or someone else participating in a conversation said is true... There's a lot.. the older generations would also read fortunes, play with tarot cards and follow astrology. It doesn't appear as common with youth though.

And of course from childhood playing with fire will make you pee the bed at night..

Genealogy / What are common Polish character traits? [425]

Stubborn, materialistic, xenophobic, homophobic, envious, crafty, patriotic, hospitable, hard working, traditional, conservative, gossiping, short tempered, polite to strangers (that pan and Pani stuff cracks me up, well even use that **** in an argument), worldly, cwaniaki... That's most of what I can think of...


That's because poles have been burned so many times so we automatically blow on cold. Also, poles like to play the angles so when someone is being nice and friendly we often think they have an ulterior motive.

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I know what I wrote. Never did I say Poland should leave the EU nor cozy up to Russia politically.


And? How is the western world any different? That happens everywhere. Atleast with Putin he has balls and is independent he does his own thing, unlike Trump who puts Jews and Israel before everything and everyone.

Yes. And no they are hurting children through spreading pro LGBT propoganda. I.e. drag queens reading kids books to children, even some LGBT teachers in Canada admitted that they push this agenda. Now all of a sudden there's all these kids who think they're another gender because some fairy brainwashed them. Then they come to their senses, regret it, get depressed and many commit suicide. Not only that they spread disease especially HIV which is nearly exclusive to gay men in the West. If fhey kept it at home and didn't take every opportunity to advertise their sexuality not giving a care at all if there's young kids around whether it's the Olympics, a St Pat's day parade, and basically any major public event then it wouldn't be such an issue.

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Idk how you managed to get 1 from 0 + 0 but you did it... The two have nothing in common. I'm all for the EU as an economic union. But the political meddling in polish affairs i cannot agree with. As long as we're milking the EU cow and have freedom of movement well have to deal with the interference in sovereign affairs.

But yes I do love Putin and kadyrov. If only the EU Poland or USA had such leaders. We sure as hell wouldn't have politicians wasting their time and our tax money voting on an LGBT anti discrimination bill. Instead, we'd be criminalizing it.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

How is it a manipulation? The data shows that much of the growth in recent years has been with partners outside the EU, especially as the German economy stagnates.

Go ask a polish farmer especially one growing applies how business was after the EU forbid then to ship their goods to Russia who bought tons of agricultural products from Poland. Eventually they figured out the products should make a stop in Belarus, which the EU in all their wisdom couldn't figure out why suddenly reported triple apple, cheese, etc exports.

The facts speak for themselves. Trade with Russia increased 200% over the past five years. Uae 600% Belarus over 100% Ukraine 190%

The growth is coming from outside of the EU more and more. Of course Germany is still the main partner, but it was even before the EU. That hasn't changed

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Yes and much of that growth is to markets outside the EU especially China. The EU also drastically hurt Polish agricultural exports to Russia. Lot of farmers were pissed about this especially those growing apples

News / Poles march against Mandatory poisoning by vaccines [202]

Actually there is a vaccine against ebola. It's called not letting monkey people into Europe.


Exactly. So they should have no concern about people who don't want to take vaccines. If you're vaccinated against things like diptheria, measles, pertusis, etc and believe vaccines are effective then there's no reason to worry about people who aren't.


Millions of Europeans think otherwise including even tusk and merkel who admitted it's a big problem

History / Polish attitudes towards ex-Soviet republics joining NATO [116]


Doesn't work. The US military gave away thousands upon thousands I'm talking even 5 6 figures to sheik's, tribal leaders, and just random dudes to earn their support.

Yet who's in charge of Iraq now? A dude who was a leader of the Mahdi army that fought against the US and caused thousands of deaths of US soldiers.

The US came in expecting to take **** over, spread 'democracy,' threaten Iran, get rid of terrorists since apparently Saddam was helping Al-Qaeda etc. Yet what happened? ISIS, which was defeated mainly thanks to Iran and Russia, and now Shia's with Iran backing are running the country. US lost a trillion dollars in Iraq. They even had to destroy their own hummers and tanks they left for the Iraqi army when ISIS captured them lol.

I see it as poetic justice.

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Ukraine should've stayed with Russia. Now they'll be inundated with buttseks and Jewish imf loans they'll never be able to pay back.

Clown country elects a literal clown president. Imagine my surprise....

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The people most certainly don't. They end up hating the us even more. But yes you are right that generally the country is then beholden to buying NATO hardware especially from us.

Then again, I do kind of wish I stayed bc I could've then worked for blackwater or made my own company and mowed down kebab with a 50 Cal at will.

Just look at how fun this looks: youtu.be/xm6hC2oW5P8

The Chinese so the same but are far more sly. Instead of conquering the place with guns and making everyone hate them they conquer the place with money build a few roads and hospitals and now all the turd worlders love them meanwhile they're shipping minerals worth exponentially more back home.