Off-Topic / Feed Back on the Moderating - Part 2 [207]


Correct, but you're never going to convince JR of that. PAK, along with 'genius' Novi are obviously equally as stupid if they also believe his conspiracy theories. There are no British mods/admin here. Anyone who believes otherwise should contact admin and discuss it with him.

Travel / Holidays in Poland, is it still worth coming here? [21]


It's summer Alien, of course the seaside is going to be crowded. When it's good weather people head for the beaches regardless of country. I've just got back from Italy, and the beaches were heaving.

To be honest, I've only been once to the beach in Poland, there's far more to do there for me than go to the seaside. I guess it depends what you're looking for.

History / Anniversary of Soviet Invasion [86]


Your father was a distinguished scientist and your family had a privileged lifestyle. This was not the norm under communism for most people as I'm sure you must be aware.

Pawian had a similar background to yours. His father was a scientist/engineer and wasn't in the PZPR either but his family were wealthy. I remember Pawian talking about his foreign holidays. This post of his explains his family background:

https://polishforums.com/history/poland-modern-myths-legends-communist-past-84840/7/#msg1756370


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Soviet_occupation_of_Poland

You just like to be contrary.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [379]


Not what I would have done either but this was a long time ago. I don't know if any enquiries were made beforehand but maybe she just felt she needed to know where she came from. She had a really tough early start to her life and ended up in the Victorian workhouse system at some point:

historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Victorian-Workhouse/


Actually, what I should have said was that he doesn't like women who make choices outside his very traditional views. It's not for this thread, but he often makes disparaging comments about women who choose careers and decide not to have children.

It is not for him to judge women who make choices that are right for them, whatever those choices may be.


Hence my reference to The Stepford Wives ;)

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Off-Topic / Music Thread - part 2 [957]

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News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [379]


Just to be clear:


The End.


It is not unrealistic or fantasy to suggest that a child might want to know where they came from one day.

Many adopted children wonder about their birth parents and some go to the extent of tracking them down.

I know two people who have done precisely that, one of them being my ex-mother-in-law. She was born in London and found out her birth mother was Irish and living back in Ireland. She traced where she was living and turned up on her doorstep. When she explained who she was, her birth mother said, " Didn't want you then, don't want you now." and slammed the door in her face.

The other one is a friend who found her birth mother. No joyful reunion.

It's all academic anyway, I was merely responding to Torq's suggestion of adoption. I would not be going through with a pregnancy after rape under any circumstances. Make of it what you will.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [379]


I feel the same way about you. You appear to totally lack any compassion.


How can you not understand that carrying a rapist's baby to term would be absolutely horrific and something I would not put myself through?

If adopted that child could one day come looking for its birth mother and then what? I tell them that they were a product of rape? What is that going to do to them or do you suggest lying? It's not going to be a happy ever after ending that's for sure.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [379]


Exactly. At the hospital a rape victim is going to be getting a forensic exam with swabs being taken for DNA, this specifically requires NOT having the sperm flushed out. Novi is so not a genius.


Hatred and revulsion are not the same thing. The only thing that matters to you is that the baby is born. What sort of a life do you think it would have with a mother that cannot love the child?


Someone with the voice of reason.


This is America and not Poland but according to this CDC article, it is 1 in 20 women.

cdc.gov/sexual-violence/about/pregnancy-resulting-from-rape.html

News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [379]


I am truly terrified that you appear to regard women as little more than incubators and that their feelings are totally disregarded.

If I was forced to have a rapist's child I would regard it only with revulsion, a permanent living reminder of a traumatic event that I could never forget. Not the child's fault at all but I can't help the way that I feel. If my partner had such little regard for my mental health and forced me into that ordeal then we would be heading for the divorce courts.


Does not support the death penalty so when you advocate for the death of the rapist but not the child you come across as a total hypocrite. Either all human life is sacred or it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose.


Some of them do, sadly. My opinion is that those that shout the loudest tend to be the least Christian of all. A generalisation, but it seems to hold water on PF.


Paulina is none of those things. She asks questions that are important and relevant. As for comparing her with Strzelec, how low can you go?


Unless we come round to your way of thinking? I've noticed that you talk about people who disagree with you in that smug and supercilious manner. Same when you throw scorn on women with careers and without children. You give me the impression that you don't much like women and that you see them as little more than breeders.

Ever read/watched The Stepford Wives? ;)

News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [379]


Those would be my feelings too.


I believe there is a funeral mass for stillborn babies.


I agree but Torq is taking the moral high ground here and as a devout Catholic he cannot justifiably argue that one life is worth more than another.


Are you Catholic Iron?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [379]


That is her choice but if that was me I would be opting for an abortion. There is no way that I could give birth to a rapist's child and keep it or have it adopted. It would be far too traumatic. I do not see early stage abortion as murder.


As Paulina has said, I hope that your wife and daughter never have to make such a decision but they might feel differently if it happened to them. I hope that you would not insist that either one goes ahead with a pregnancy if they changed their mind. Where is your compassion?


I don't know how you can make that statement when you follow it up with:


Are you for life or against it because from what you're saying here you're trying to play God. One life is worth more than another in your opinion?

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]


I'd go with that too.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [379]


In post #181 you said:


You are suggesting that women who become pregnant following rape should carry the baby to term and have it adopted.
Therefore, it follows that should the worst happen to one of your granddaughters, this is your stance on the matter. It is not me baiting you, it's a perfectly reasonable assumption to make given what you said.. Pregnancy after rape might not be that common but it still happens and is a legitimate reason for an abortion, it's not some bullsh!t to justify it.


Rape is not always reported straight away and often goes unreported. Your ideal response is not going to prevent conception.

BTW, if you think flushing the sperm out in a hospital will prevent pregnancy, you are sadly mistaken.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [379]


Best hope that neither one of your granddaughters is unfortunate enough to get raped and end up pregnant. Good to know that you would insist on her carrying her rapist's baby to term after surviving the trauma of rape. Clearly, her mental state wouldn't even be considered.

That applies to all the other PF members with wives, daughters, sisters, who strongly oppose abortion. I'd like to know how many of you would insist on their female loved ones carrying a rapist's baby to term. I can foresee broken marriages and permanently fractured relationships.

Off-Topic / Music Thread - part 2 [957]

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Food / Where would you take foreign guests for Polish food dinner in Krakow? [15]


Because they're the dishes least likely to appeal to the average tourist and he wants to give the impression that Polish food isn't good.

Food / Where would you take foreign guests for Polish food dinner in Krakow? [15]


They'd be better off staying in their own country then. Nothing worse than tourists who complain about the local food or aren't prepared to even try it.


I wouldn't choose to eat either of those dishes but there's plenty of other Polish dishes to try.

Food / Poland-Tea or coffee land? [156]


Scattered about. A couple from south-eastern Poland, Czarna Górna, Ustrzyki Dolne, others from Warsaw, Wrocław, Grudziądz, Raba Wyżna, Nowy Targ.


I'm quite shocked by that. Maybe when they came to the UK they decided they didn't like the tea here ;)


I'm guessing it's much stronger.

Food / Poland-Tea or coffee land? [156]


That doesn't inspire me to try it......


I can only speak for the Poles I know over here and not one of them has ever drank black tea when I've been around. Only coffee, Inka and those 'fruit' teas which I don't consider to be tea at all.


I wouldn't wear them but have to admit they're very cute :):)

Food / Poland-Tea or coffee land? [156]


I wouldn't have said that. There's more caffeine in coffee than tea.


Poles don't appear to like strong tasting tea which is why I think they tend to go for herbal/fruit teas. More about taste than home remedies in my opinion. I think they would probably like Earl Grey tea.

I know a lot of Poles that drink Inka, which I think is some kind of coffee substitute? From PRL times?

Over here, tea is considered to be the national drink and personally, I like a strong cup of tea. Builder's tea.


Lol.

Food / Poland-Tea or coffee land? [156]

Most Poles I know are coffee drinkers and the ones I do know that drink tea always drink those awful fruit flavoured teas that to me taste like a cup of hot squash.


Higher tannin content.


I bring it home from work to clean the kettle with. Great stuff.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]


I've tried it now and I have to admit I really liked it. It could very easily become my latest addiction........

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation - part 2 [773]


Thanks for the link.


That figures.

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation - part 2 [773]


Standoffish appearance? Bolt upright stance?

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]

That sounds a bit like Cacio e Pepe but that has Pecorino Romano cheese and no garlic. It's comfort food for me.

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation - part 2 [773]

A new one:

To fall like a plum into a compote

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]


It did look a lot like cooked veg, onions, carrots etc. It was a good riddle!


If I see it I'll buy a bar to try. There's been a lot of hype about it, mainly because of the price.


That sounds good, I love Turkish delight!

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]

I haven't tried it but is it that Dubai chocolate that's become really popular? Think the filling includes some kind of pastry and pistachios?

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]


The middle bit definitely looks like some sort of filling.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]


I've not been but I've seen lots of photos of the area from someone who used to live there. Very scenic.