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Bobko   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23 [432]

Does Ukraine no longer have mercenaries?

They are trying to expand it now, but - listen - mercenaries are also not fools.

Russia offers a signing bonus of $20-50K - on the spot - depending on region. For many people in Cuba, in Angola, in Ethiopia, in Nepal, and other places - this is much more than they could ever hope to earn in a military career (we only recruit persons that can prove prior service).

Ukraine offers something on the level of $30-40K in annual compensation, but practically no signing bonuses, and no idea on when you will be released.

In the first three years of the war, Ukraine had a stable supply of people that simply hated Russia. Disaffected Georgians, Lithuanians, Belarusians, and so on. A lot of Poles also.

These last two years - most of Ukraine's foreigners are Colombians. There have been some articles published, that the Colombians are sent by Mexican cartels - to give the Colombians exposure to modern drone warfare and electronic warfare. This is due to the porosity of Urkaine's slack recruiting guidelines.
Bobko   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23 [432]

This sounds ominous

Death is a normal part of the process.

What is important is that the Russian state honors all promises to its warriors. It doesn't engage in some cheap bait and switch as the Ukrainian state does.

If you contribute your life to Russia, it will perform its part of the deal. Even if it means we don't build some high speed railway or pay higher pensions.

For many men, this is enough.
Bobko   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23 [432]

Have any comments on that?

Our press may be lying, but they could never obscure a problem of such magnitude.

Fact is - the problem does not exist in Russia in the same way it does in Ukraine.

Russia's army is completely volunteer - while Ukraine's is more than 80% coerced.

What the Ukrainians themselves say accounts for the difference, is that Russians are paid appropriately, and then no shenanigans are attempted with the payout to family if you die. With the Russian military - the business transaction is eminently straightforward.

There is no doubt that you or your family will be paid.
Bobko   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23 [432]

Some "choice" quotes from the article:

"I have several hundred alcoholics and drug addicts who come to the TRC once a month and travel around the training centers. They are not worried about being drafted into the army, so they report every month without any problems and travel around the training centers," - an employee of the territorial recruitment center in western Ukraine tells UP.

"At the same time as me in the "distribution center" there was a 50-year-old father of three children with a disability. He tried to explain his situation to the military, but they told him: 'You learned how to use your cock, but you didn't learn how to protect your children?'" - the recruit tells UP.

"Everyone is here - from HIV-infected and hepatitis patients to people with obvious syphilis. Heart patients, epileptics and those with mental disorders are the norm here. They are rejected in all "training camps", but they are still kept in collection points and driven around different regions in the hope of being registered somewhere," adds another UP interlocutor among the mobilized, who spent two weeks in the same collection point in Kyiv.

"There were cases that out of 150 men that the military TRC brought to us, we selected only three," the chief of staff of a battalion of one of the mechanized brigades, which independently conducts basic military training, tells UP off the record.

Simply stupendous.
Bobko   
2 days ago
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23 [432]

@Velund

Ukraine's leading paper recently published a long-form article about the absurdity of the country's mobilization system.

It was straight out of Hašek novel. I felt like I was reading "The Adventures of the Brave Soldier Schweik".

Before I describe the system in brief, I have to set the context. The context is that at this point, no normal person in Ukraine is "not afraid" of the "regional recruitment centers". There have been dozens of widely publicized cases in Ukraine, where people died within the walls of recruitment centers, died a suspicious death which was claimed as suicide, or were literally beat half to death on the street - before hundreds of witnesses.

Yet somehow, the AFU continues to mobilize new troops. This is a short story about those people:

In a nutshell:

1) They keep grabbing the same guys: drunks, drug abusers, people missing a kidney, or suffering from epileptic seizures. Things like that. Then they drag them to the local recruitment office.

2) At the local recruitment office - is your last chance to get out before a long journey begins. Here, a medical commission must certify your suitability for service. The problem? They don't listen to what you tell them, but instead request "recent" documents from your doctor certifying that you indeed have the ailments you claim. You could be barely standing on your legs, and they will still enlist you if you are not able to produce the necessary documents. The doctors that work within the recruitment centers certify everyone as "healthy", with the only exception seemingly being persons with amputated limbs.

3) After you have been certified as medically fit, your phone and other property is confiscated, and you are placed in a "distribution center". The "distribution center" is usually located within the same building as the Territorial Recruitment Center itself. If you are lucky, you may spend only one night in the distribution center, before being sent on the next leg of your journey. If you are not lucky, you could spend up to 3 weeks living in a cramped room with 50 other guys who haven't showered. It was in such a place, that there occurred a riot on June 2nd of this year, in a suburb of Kiev's. The mobilized men barricaded themselves inside their barracks, and took some officers hostage.

4) From the distribution center, your next stop is the "training center". Every morning, a bus arrives at the distribution center to pick up a batch of potential soldiers. Some people try to resist getting into the buses, so then they are beaten and shoved into them. Others try to jump out the windows, or escape while the bus is stopped in traffic. Once you arrive at the training center, you are ordered to stand in a line and look smart. At this point, several commanders from different Ukrainian brigades will arrive, and start examining "the goods". Drunks, junkies, and people with mental illnesses are immediately swept aside. Nobody wants them. Next, are filtered out the guys that "may" have a potentially legitimate reason for a deferment - but seem to have some kind of problem with their documents. Recruits are selected from whomever remains. On certain days, this may be just 1 or 2 individuals. The other 20-30 guys, are put back in the bus, and taken back to the distribution center.

5) If nobody picked you, and you were returned to your "distribution center", then they will keep you there for several more weeks, and take you on several more trips to the "training centers". In some cases, representatives of the "Territorial Recruitment Centers" will offer bribes to brigade commanders to take some "long time passenger" off their hands, and help them meet their quotas. The article interviews some guys that were taken to the "recruitment fair" more than ten times. Eventually, however, they have to release them. Knowing full well that they are un-recruitable, the drunks and junkies solemnly promise to return upon the next summons - and they do. In this way, you can have "professional recruits". Guys that get picked up every few months, driven around a bunch of training centers, and then released again as a total undesirable.

The problem for Ukraine - as the article discusses - is that the manpower hunger is becoming so acute, that brigade commanders are becoming increasingly more willing to take on the burden of these "undesirables". Soon, maybe even the mentally ill will be judged fit.

Source: pravda.com.ua/rus/articles/2025/06/16/7517270/
Bobko   
2 Jul 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23 [432]

Kiev has summoned Washington's envoy after a reported halt of military deliveries

Haha! I'm sure he was trembling on his way to the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

"How can I protect America, from the fury which Ukraine is about to unleash upon us?"
Bobko   
2 Jul 2025
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Bobko   
1 Jul 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23 [432]

There is no such thing as Russia, its Muscovy usurping rights to Kievan Rus due to Mongol influence.

Your statement contains some contradictions.

If they were Russian, then the French are like the Romans

French are Latin speaking Gauls/Celts/Germans/Italians.

Ukraine is Russian speaking Russians, or Russian-dialect speaking Russians.
Bobko   
1 Jul 2025
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Bobko   
1 Jul 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23 [432]

ancient ukrs inhabited all this land from 1500BC

Bro you need to see a psychiatrist.

Ancient Ukrs?

Are you f*cking illiterate? You're a Pole. You have the same root word as us - so you have no excuse for playing dumb. "Ukraine" means "borderland countries". It has no other linguistic meaning or etymology.

Ukraine has never been a country. These are wild Russians. Unruly, through years of living in no man's land. That have to be redomesticated, and brought back to the family hearth.
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1 Jul 2025
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1 Jul 2025
UK, Ireland / Polish YouTuber weirdos trash-talking the UK [200]

@WarSore

I used to watch Polish action flicks (with Russian dubbing) when I was a kid, and then didn't watch anything Polish until 1670 last year.

So I'm pretty excited to see what you've recommended.
Bobko   
1 Jul 2025
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1 Jul 2025
Life / Poland is horrible and I have to live here - somebody call a whambulance! [95]

In my mind New York is the centre of art, fashion, etc. Many American movies were made there and I guess that made it a big tourist attraction.

Nearly every movie is based in New York. Sometimes I'm sitting in a movie theater, and a scene comes up that features the actual building in which I'm sitting in that very moment.

But it's not all Devil Wears Prada and Sex in the City. We also get to see the city destroyed by aliens, asteroids, terrorists, etc. If it's an American city getting wrecked in some movie - it's always NY and never Chicago.

I just don't understand why people living outside of New York would hate the most famous and interesting city in their country?

There's a lot of New Yorkers everywhere. In Miami, in LA, in Denver, in St Louis - literally everywhere. They carry their NYC attitude with them, and it pisses people off.

John Updike said:

"The true New Yorker secretly believes that people living anywhere else have to be, in some sense, kidding."

Then Woody Allen also said, that a real New Yorker sees traveling outside New York as "camping".

These people weren't making it up - some New Yorkers are really this insufferable.

Some anecdotes from my own experience:

1) Took some folks skiing. In the middle of nowhere. Had to go to like 5 places, before it was decent enough for them to eat in. Then they started ordering fancy cocktails, from a bartender that only serves Jack and Coke or Coors Light. They didn't even understand why he hated them.

2) Again, took some folks upstate, to show where my plant is located. To the people in the car, it was like a safari. A girl in the back, kept asking me: "What do people do here? Do they have jobs? Where do they work?". I had to explain to her, that it works like any other economy. You need a haircut, so there is a barber. You need food - so there is a supermarket clerk. She couldn't believe me, that these people were actually seriously trying to live their life out there.

3) I had a girlfriend, that for trips outside New York, would pack food for herself for every day, because she felt she could not find edible food in the rest of this huge country.

So yeah, New Yorkers can sorta be blamed for the hate they attract. They think other Americans are insects.
Bobko   
1 Jul 2025
Life / Poland is horrible and I have to live here - somebody call a whambulance! [95]

As for the UK I also heard about less bureaucracy - it's easier to set up your own company

No one moves because of this. No active or potential entrepreneur.

If Poles are at all like Russians - then it may be a larger problem of attitude.

In Russia, if I share with my friends that I'm starting a business, they'll give me 50 reasons for why it's not gonna work.

In America, everyone wishes you luck, and tries to connect you with somebody who could be useful.

Britain has the same problem though, if not worse. Not sure the business climate is any better in Britain than in Poland.
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1 Jul 2025
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1 Jul 2025
Life / Poland is horrible and I have to live here - somebody call a whambulance! [95]

Why is that? Too cosmopolitan for their taste?

In Annie Hall, Woody Allen said this about New York:

"Don't you see? The rest of the country looks upon New York like we're left‑wing, communist, Jewish, homosexual pornographers? I think of us that way sometimes-and I live here."

New York is Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots, and Abominations of the Earth.

People hate it for its arrogance, its sinfulness, and its greed. Same reason people hate Moscow.

People hate its power. The state used to be called the Empire State, because New York had its long tentacles dipping into every single pie. Whether it was the studios of Hollywood, the factories of Detroit, the oils derricks of Houston, or the meat packing districts of Chicago. The whole country worked for New York. The same way all of Russia works for Moscow.
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30 Jun 2025
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30 Jun 2025
Genealogy / Russian POW Camp records [71]

so maybe middle-class shopkeepers might be of some use too?

We can't talk about this, until the right time arrives.
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30 Jun 2025
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