News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]


you precede the reputation of your countrymen as the most arrogant, I am glad that you are staying true to type, personally I don't like when people stray from type.

News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]


Yes I wouldn't want to get caught mobbing by anyone(:

News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

You have to remember that what you are describing is the present situation, but in 15-20 years time what is fact and reality now will be very different from today. Just to give you an illustration, compare Poland to how it looked like 20 years ago, and think how it will look like 20 years from now.


Well actually it closer to 12% to be exact indexmundi.com/poland/unemployment_rate.html

News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]


The trouble is everybody knows it except for him(:

News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]


I think that he is loosing his mental faculties with age, and his less tolerable traits are coming to the fore.

News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]


No need for vulgarity, and just admit that what he said is 100% correct and that's why you chose to attack him and not what he said.

News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]


Just because you say he's not doesn't mean he isn't, once again playing the man and not he ball.

Genealogy / I love Asiatic influences in Polish peoples' faces [59]

I wouldn't because I haven't encountered any.

News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]


I am sure it is not, but whatever the country letting them into government would be a bad idea.

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

A very interesting OECD clip about the changes that have taken place in the Polish education system over the last 20 years.
pearsonfoundation.org/oecd/poland.html

Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]


That is good to see because many on this forum believe that Poles do not Queue.


Really, I thought keeping up with the Joneses was an American saying.


By brainstorming, you mean write a word in the middle of a page and then a whole bunch of other words around it linking to the middle ward. Sounds like very difficult process, the Poles must be obviously incapable of doing something as complicated as that!


Would you care name some of those simple challenges?

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

Nevertheless Poland still holds its own in international comparisons, and to my knowledge the government aims to make the education system more competitive. Just by way of example, the Polish girls' European maths Olympiad team has had some success:

Polish team won the first European Mathematical Olympiad for Girls . The competition , held in Cambridge in the UK, was attended by 70 participants from 19 countries from Europe and beyond.

Polish women won the team classification scoring a total of 122 points , narrowly beating Romania (121 points) , Ukraine (117 points) and the United States (110 points) . The Polish team the best result was achieved Barbara Mroczek , scoring 36 points and a gold medal for her were taken by Anna Siennicka ( 31 points , silver medal ) , Agata Latacz ( 28 points , silver medal ) and Anna Olech ( 27 points , silver medal ) .

We have a thread on this.

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]


Not my views imbecilic. If you weren't too arrogant to actually follow the debate, you would realize that I referred to international rankings compiled by PISA- which apart from posting rankings analyses each country's performance and makes recommendations for improvements, which oddly enough coincide with my own.

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]


Your relentless negativity is really becoming a bit passe. God i hope you are not married, because if you are I really pity your wife.


It's not my test you fool.

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]


It will take a bit of time to work out, and I think you have to have the second component in place of the student paying for his or her education, for the first to work better. I guess initially the universities will pick everyone as you say, but after some 10 years time there should be a definite educational trend, which the universities should be forced to publish (this should be another part of educational reform, forcing universities to publish data on the employment attainment of students who leave university). This will give future students a good idea whether it is worth it, and they will be more careful about how they spend their money.


Actually i would disagree, I think that early education in Poland is a lot better than higher education. Poland actually does quite well in international rankings for primary and secondary education outcomes.

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

That will change in the future i can guarantee it. I am sure that in the next ten years the government will force students to pay for their education, i already had the privilege of paying for my own. What will happen is that they will introduce a system were the money follows the student, which will mean that the best resourced universities will be the ones that give you the most useful education.

What will also happen is that the government will force students to pay by giving them a loan, which they will be expected to pay back interest free, after they find employment and earn a certain level of income. I think it is inevitable, and i must admit probably fair, after all why should somebody who finished a zawodowka pay for somebody's education who is attending a university.

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]


I can't really make much of this rant, perhaps you would like to rephrase your argument.


It has everything to do with what you mentioned above

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]


Very few things to you actually do. Unless of course they are PIS inspired, than they make perfect sense.
PISA: Programme for International Student Assessment.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

Poland has been recently going up in the league. Crucially a study has found that the more time you devote to mathematics and literacy-which among others are the subjects that the league measures, the more likely you are to be competitive. So the more time you spend on religion and history, the less time you devote to those crucial subjects. Which is why the system needs to be reformed, ideally religion should be axed and combined with other subjects like history for instance, you could call it society and environment and teach a combination of religious teaching, life skills, and a bit of history.

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]


That is just idiotic. The rationale behind the reforms is quite simple the government wants children to focus on the "useful" subjects in school like maths, physics, chemistry, biology, and Polish. History and Religion are seen as big obstacles to this, and personally I would be in favor of cutting religion out of the curriculum or combining it with something else like a hybrid of something. I understand where the government is coming from. Sadly for history-it is not measured on the PISA league table of international competitiveness in education, and Poland want's to be competitive, so something has to give.

And as someone who loves history it has to be said that history never invented anything nor did it cure anyone or made anybody else's existence on this planet any easier, the subjects that i have mentioned above have. It pains me to say it, but history is just not as useful as the others.

Life / Television in Poland - embarrassingly bad? [44]


If you think that is the case, you should come down under(Australia)-where I am, and then you will find out what bad really is. And its not only the fact that television trends only reach after the US, UK and Europe, but our advertising is got to be some of the most stupidest in the world.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


With a bit of expansion to the east every now and again(:

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


Poles do not have the same respect for authority and never have worshiped brute force the way the Germans and Russians have done. Having said that, what the Germans had done in WWII was out of character when looked from the perspective of their history about 2 to 3 centuries earlier.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


Stop shifting the argument. According to your belief the Germans should not apologize full stop. Because as you so clearly stated "To say Germany or Russia has done harm to Poland" is an oversimplification of such colossal proportions", which quite obviously is an attempt to minimize the actions of the Russians and Germans by breaking the link between the people and the state.


And how else do the Germans do that except through the actions of the state which represents them, just as it did in WWII.


I see, straight from the David Irving school of history.


No, but that is exactly what your ideas imply and that is the logical end step of your belief, perhaps your'e to stupid too realize it.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]

You probably don't realize that before he was bratwurst boy, he used to go by a different name and some of his earlier posts weren't all that pleasant to read. Although in recent times he did make quite a valuable contribution to the forum with some good jokes.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]

It's interesting how when you are loosing the argument you resort to personal abuse, you just realized that you have walked into an elephant trap and you can't turn back.

The fact that you have omitted the second part of my post speaks volumes, because you just realized that your belief if put into practice would mean that the German government would have never apologized for its past, and would have never compensated the people who survived the Holocaust. Or I am getting you wrong, do you actually believe that the apology and compensation were not warranted given that you ideology indicates that is the case since you believe that the present generation bears no reprehensibility for the past?

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]

I see so what you are saying is that nobody bears responsibility for the Holocaust, and the survivors/victims should get over it. What is more you believe that the German government was wrong to pay compensation to the Jews for their suffering. You also probably believe that native title is a stupid idea in the Australian context etc. Just so that you know those ideas are divergent from mainstream of public debate and are usually held by far right groups.

Sorry but I disagree.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


Again crap. I understand you very well, I just think that you are completely wrong. Like I mentioned before a government is representative of its nation, especially a government that has been elected by them as was the case with the Nazis who were democratically elected by the German people to represent them. Hitler and the Nazis weren't backward in coming forward about what their polices were, they spelled them out in very clear detail.

Putting it in a simple way. If your father/son murdered someone, would you feel any sense of responsibility or guilt for the victims fate?


Typo. i meant policies

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


Sounds like moral relativism. What you say is quite simply crap. According to your logic Germany should feel no compunction in apologizing for the past, and yet they have, because they realize that they bear a collective responsibility for what was perpetrated in their country's name. Luckily for us they do not subscribe to your view of the world, unfortunately Russia does. As for the victims, all I will say is that I am sure they knew perfectly well who was responsible for their fate

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


I hope you wouldn't be silly enough to base your opinions on one thread, I am sure that if people met you personally they would judge you on your character not on your background. Nevertheless history is history, and many people feel justifiable anger at Nazis and communists. Having said that, If you have any knowledge of German/Polish relations, you might know that the two countries get along very well. It's a bit different with Russia, but that is because it is not a democratic country.

Life / Polish and Czechs [191]

Interesting perspective

not necessarily. Today Poland is 20% smaller than before the war. However on the plus side it does have a more cohesive population.