MediaWatch
27 Aug 2011
Life / Thread dedicated to Polish and other Slavic children [53]
Crow,
Thanks for all your Slavic children videos!
They are very interesting.
Crow,
Thanks for all your Slavic children videos!
They are very interesting.
MediaWatch
23 Aug 2011
Language / Is the term 'Polak' derogatory?? [254]
Oh baloney.
You barely know any Poles. How can you? You barely speak Polish LOL
All you ever do is push propaganda about Polish people "here"....."hate" Polish people "there" and then you take turns attacking Polish people in Poland and then people of Polish ancestry outside of Poland.
You play the Jewish card against Polish people, not because you care about the Jews, but because you just want more hatred against Polish people. I found it very interesting how you were quick to talk about "Jewish control" of certain Polish media when that media went against your sentiments on the Smolensk tragedy. That's because to you, Russia is the most sacred country. I wonder why? LOL
Some do some don't like in any country.
But for a guy who lives in Poland like yourself (at least that's what you claim), you seem to be very interested in what the American media says. Otherwise you wouldn't have gotten so mad at me on the off topic "Russians stereotyped as being stupid" when I mentioned this story I read about your Russians about Russians being clueless and low class.
nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/czarinas_of_klyn_uX2taaC5xkAzYYbc1sH7cO
By the way I have an update to the "Russians stereotyped as being stupid" topic. Its another latest jewel from the American media about your Russians.
I know plenty of Poles who ridicule those in America who know fuck all about Poland and yet claim to do so. Most of them either find it funny or annoying - especially when those POLISH PATRIOTS decide to insult the head of state without knowing anything, except what they've read in their racist Polonia rag.
Oh baloney.
You barely know any Poles. How can you? You barely speak Polish LOL
All you ever do is push propaganda about Polish people "here"....."hate" Polish people "there" and then you take turns attacking Polish people in Poland and then people of Polish ancestry outside of Poland.
You play the Jewish card against Polish people, not because you care about the Jews, but because you just want more hatred against Polish people. I found it very interesting how you were quick to talk about "Jewish control" of certain Polish media when that media went against your sentiments on the Smolensk tragedy. That's because to you, Russia is the most sacred country. I wonder why? LOL
The vast majority of Poles couldn't care less about the American media, nor could they care about what is said there
Some do some don't like in any country.
But for a guy who lives in Poland like yourself (at least that's what you claim), you seem to be very interested in what the American media says. Otherwise you wouldn't have gotten so mad at me on the off topic "Russians stereotyped as being stupid" when I mentioned this story I read about your Russians about Russians being clueless and low class.
nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/czarinas_of_klyn_uX2taaC5xkAzYYbc1sH7cO
By the way I have an update to the "Russians stereotyped as being stupid" topic. Its another latest jewel from the American media about your Russians.
MediaWatch
6 Aug 2011
News / IS POLAND INFLUENTIAL? [16]
Grubas I agree with most of what you say.
Poland should try to be more like Japan or South Korea than Spain, UK or Italy.
Poland should just try to do its best and not go out of its way to please every country or ethnic group around it.
The last time it did that and allowed just about every Tom Dick and Harry ethnic group into it, those groups became fifth columns in Poland and worked with Poland's enemies to destroy Poland (1795-1917).
Poles as individuals and as a nation should have goals, strive for them, try to do their best and don't sweat the rest. As long as Poland learns from its past mistakes and the mistakes of other countries, works hard and most importantly.....increases its population, the influence part will take care of itself.
Grubas I agree with most of what you say.
Poland should try to be more like Japan or South Korea than Spain, UK or Italy.
Poland should just try to do its best and not go out of its way to please every country or ethnic group around it.
The last time it did that and allowed just about every Tom Dick and Harry ethnic group into it, those groups became fifth columns in Poland and worked with Poland's enemies to destroy Poland (1795-1917).
Poles as individuals and as a nation should have goals, strive for them, try to do their best and don't sweat the rest. As long as Poland learns from its past mistakes and the mistakes of other countries, works hard and most importantly.....increases its population, the influence part will take care of itself.
MediaWatch
5 Aug 2011
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]
But the Russians who said this thought it was important because it would make him look like he was drunk. They were disengenuous since most human corpses biologically generate alcohol within 24 hours of death. This autopsy showing alcohol in the body was done AFTER 24 hours of death. They should have noted the 24 hour plus / body decomposition alcohol relationship.
You would have never known that coming from the Russian news reports. They made it sound like it was 100% the fault of the Poles and that the Russians could do no wrong.
Monia, evidently they don't do things like that over there for some reason.
Instead some of them were too busy stealing credit cards and other valuables from the dead Poles. And these were suppose to be their "security" people. That would never have made the light of day if it weren't for other Poles noticing it. It makes you wonder what else they were up to over there on the ground. Why did they change the landing lights right after the crash, etc?
Maybe that's just the way they do things there.
Yes in the end it was the mistake of the pilot to trust the assurance of the airtower that he was landing OK.
The pilot most likely thought another human being would not give him instructions that would lead to his death and the deaths of almost a hundred other people, so that's why he trusted the air tower guy. He was wrong to do that.
They said that he had alcohol in his body. I thought it wasn't important.
But the Russians who said this thought it was important because it would make him look like he was drunk. They were disengenuous since most human corpses biologically generate alcohol within 24 hours of death. This autopsy showing alcohol in the body was done AFTER 24 hours of death. They should have noted the 24 hour plus / body decomposition alcohol relationship.
The MAK report criticized the Smolensk controllers as well as ATC
You would have never known that coming from the Russian news reports. They made it sound like it was 100% the fault of the Poles and that the Russians could do no wrong.
After watching the video , it is obvious that they were cleaning the area, but not gathering any evidences . Anywhere in the civilised world criminal and forensic experts come first to the crash scene and search for evidences scrupulously puting every piece in seperate bags . This crash scene was cleared out of evidences not investigated .
Monia, evidently they don't do things like that over there for some reason.
Instead some of them were too busy stealing credit cards and other valuables from the dead Poles. And these were suppose to be their "security" people. That would never have made the light of day if it weren't for other Poles noticing it. It makes you wonder what else they were up to over there on the ground. Why did they change the landing lights right after the crash, etc?
Maybe that's just the way they do things there.
You are right Seanus , no accurate data given to him , so the pilot had to adjust the barometric altimeter using only his predictions , after he set the pressure , controllers reassured him he was right . That was their major mistake .
Yes in the end it was the mistake of the pilot to trust the assurance of the airtower that he was landing OK.
The pilot most likely thought another human being would not give him instructions that would lead to his death and the deaths of almost a hundred other people, so that's why he trusted the air tower guy. He was wrong to do that.
MediaWatch
4 Aug 2011
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]
Well Delph if somebody with a virulent anti-Polish agenda like yourself suggests that, then we know the opposite is true.
To me, it suggests a desire to get that plane down and "be a hero".
Well Delph if somebody with a virulent anti-Polish agenda like yourself suggests that, then we know the opposite is true.
MediaWatch
2 Aug 2011
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]
What page was this on?
Well I wouldn't go that far lol, but it is true Russians and the Russian diaspora monitor Polish, Ukrainian and other websites pertinent to Russia.
EXACTLY!!! What is up with that INTENSITY of theirs?? It seems very peculiar.
Some of these guys (especially one individual) fight tooth and nail to defend Russia on this topic like their lives depends on it. It makes you wonder. Some of these guys even make token anti-Russian comments and then go to extremes criticizing and finding fault with the Polish pilots and even regurgitating old early Russian propaganda lines about "pressure put on Polish pilots by other Poles".
Remember when these same Russia supporters were talking about the Russian talking point about "Drunk pilots" or "Drunk Pole pressuring the pilot"? It turns out, the Russian autopsy showed there was alchohol in the guy's body but it was tested OVER 24 hours after he was found dead. They conveniently forgot to mention that many times a corpse creates alcohol naturally especially after 24 hours.
Did you read the report? The Yak was never cleared to land, did so anyway, and the controller made the compliment.
What page was this on?
Because this has been an operation that has been planned out for a long time by the FSB and we were planted on this forum years ago to make sure that there is no dissent towards the official Russian/Polish findings....ooops, let it slip!
Well I wouldn't go that far lol, but it is true Russians and the Russian diaspora monitor Polish, Ukrainian and other websites pertinent to Russia.
I just wounder why so many foreigners are interested in convincing everyone that the Smolensk Crash was a fault of the pilot.
EXACTLY!!! What is up with that INTENSITY of theirs?? It seems very peculiar.
Some of these guys (especially one individual) fight tooth and nail to defend Russia on this topic like their lives depends on it. It makes you wonder. Some of these guys even make token anti-Russian comments and then go to extremes criticizing and finding fault with the Polish pilots and even regurgitating old early Russian propaganda lines about "pressure put on Polish pilots by other Poles".
Remember when these same Russia supporters were talking about the Russian talking point about "Drunk pilots" or "Drunk Pole pressuring the pilot"? It turns out, the Russian autopsy showed there was alchohol in the guy's body but it was tested OVER 24 hours after he was found dead. They conveniently forgot to mention that many times a corpse creates alcohol naturally especially after 24 hours.
MediaWatch
2 Aug 2011
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]
Where in the transcripts is there evidence of a supervisor putting pressure on the captain?
Where is there evidence of this?
Why did Air Tower Control give them permission to make their approach if the Air Tower felt there were bad landing conditions?
no supervisor should ever pressure a captain into anything, coming into a cockpit before a landing is often viewed as such.
Where in the transcripts is there evidence of a supervisor putting pressure on the captain?
Russian ATC and the tower should have taken action once they realized that the Yak pilot didn't really care much about following proper procedure instead of complimenting him for pulling off the landing after breaking the rules.
Where is there evidence of this?
An approach was requested from the crew, and provided by ATC..
Why did Air Tower Control give them permission to make their approach if the Air Tower felt there were bad landing conditions?
MediaWatch
1 Aug 2011
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]
As usual within MINUTES your commenting on my comments on a topic like this. Some things never change. ;)
Anyway, your telling me when landing in Russia a plane has to first make an attempt to land (with the possibility of crashing) before somebody in Russia gives the plane clearance to land at another Russian airport???
Huh?
But there was discussion between the Smolensk air controllers and Moscow for them to land at another airport (at the last minute) but for some reason another Russian airport was not provided for them by Moscow.
Failed to provide them? What are you talking about? ATC doesn't "give" them an alternative airport - they define it themselves. ATC can, of course, advise them to go somewhere - but again - it's advisory. It's very likely that after PAF 101 missed the approach, they'd be advised to divert to Moscow.
As usual within MINUTES your commenting on my comments on a topic like this. Some things never change. ;)
Anyway, your telling me when landing in Russia a plane has to first make an attempt to land (with the possibility of crashing) before somebody in Russia gives the plane clearance to land at another Russian airport???
Huh?
But there was discussion between the Smolensk air controllers and Moscow for them to land at another airport (at the last minute) but for some reason another Russian airport was not provided for them by Moscow.
MediaWatch
1 Aug 2011
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]
Well based on how you described air control towers, I think its time we stop calling them air control towers. They should just be called airport plane taxi services since by your account they do virtually nothing to help planes land and only tell landing planes what strip to land on and coordinate how planes on the ground taxi around.
Anyway, OK legally the pilot has ultimate responsibility, but I think its just wrong to blame him 100% if he's getting faulty information from the air control tower.
Its kind of like driving your car. At the end of the day you are responsible for your driving actions despite what people in the car may tell you. But if you trust somebody in the car with you (as the Polish pilots trusted the Russian tower) and he tells you to drive down a rough street (unbeknown to you) that gets you into an accident, I think it would absolutely be wrong to jump up and down and then say "Its all the driver's fault".
I think the pilot originally thought there would be an ILC airport tracking device that would help him land (like there was when Putin and other top Russians landed there before) and only found out last minute there wasn't one.
I will agree with the criticism of the Polish pilots in that they should have been trained better in landing in adverse conditions, especially in a place like Russia where we keep hearing about Russian planes crashing or Russian pilots barely landing their planes. The Polish pilots should have been trained to understand that when they land in Russia (especially in tough conditions), they are not going to have top technical support. The pilots should have been trained to understand that landing in Russia is not like landing in most countries. If Russian pilots are having problems landing in Russia, how can it be any easier for non-Russian pilots?
I do give credit to the Russian air tower in that they tried to request from Moscow another airport for the plane to land at. But for some reason they got into an argument with Moscow and Moscow for some reason failed to provide another airport for the pilots to land at. I'm sure the pilot thought it was acceptable to land at the airport since after all he wasn't being given an alternate airport to land at.
Non-precision approaches are, as the name implies, very "non-precise".
Well based on how you described air control towers, I think its time we stop calling them air control towers. They should just be called airport plane taxi services since by your account they do virtually nothing to help planes land and only tell landing planes what strip to land on and coordinate how planes on the ground taxi around.
Anyway, OK legally the pilot has ultimate responsibility, but I think its just wrong to blame him 100% if he's getting faulty information from the air control tower.
Its kind of like driving your car. At the end of the day you are responsible for your driving actions despite what people in the car may tell you. But if you trust somebody in the car with you (as the Polish pilots trusted the Russian tower) and he tells you to drive down a rough street (unbeknown to you) that gets you into an accident, I think it would absolutely be wrong to jump up and down and then say "Its all the driver's fault".
I think the pilot originally thought there would be an ILC airport tracking device that would help him land (like there was when Putin and other top Russians landed there before) and only found out last minute there wasn't one.
I will agree with the criticism of the Polish pilots in that they should have been trained better in landing in adverse conditions, especially in a place like Russia where we keep hearing about Russian planes crashing or Russian pilots barely landing their planes. The Polish pilots should have been trained to understand that when they land in Russia (especially in tough conditions), they are not going to have top technical support. The pilots should have been trained to understand that landing in Russia is not like landing in most countries. If Russian pilots are having problems landing in Russia, how can it be any easier for non-Russian pilots?
I do give credit to the Russian air tower in that they tried to request from Moscow another airport for the plane to land at. But for some reason they got into an argument with Moscow and Moscow for some reason failed to provide another airport for the pilots to land at. I'm sure the pilot thought it was acceptable to land at the airport since after all he wasn't being given an alternate airport to land at.
MediaWatch
1 Aug 2011
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]
Can somebody explain to me why the Air Traffic Controller was telling the pilots "On course and path" and "Continue Approach" (page 214 of report) when they clearly were not on course and not on the right landing path?
Can somebody explain to me why the Air Traffic Controller was telling the pilots "On course and path" and "Continue Approach" (page 214 of report) when they clearly were not on course and not on the right landing path?
MediaWatch
30 Jul 2011
UK, Ireland / Why Poles will never belong in England [283]
Yes I'm sure that's how the Polish-Brit Joseph Conrad lived in Britain LOL
No the Germans didn't flock to England but they flocked to just about every other part of the world. Germans proportionally left Germany to other countries more than Poles have left Poland despite Poland being ripped apart by predator nations.
Also what do you care about people coming to England "adulterating" English blood? You guys have welcomed with open arms just about every Tom Dick and Harry ethnic group to come into your country to mix with you. Don't be a hypocrite. Including those who are proactively trying to subvert your culture and bomb you.
If England allows immigrants from other countries that bomb English subways and foment riots against England in general, certainly England can allow Poles into England.
Well if "nobody wants" Poles in England, why do you guys allow them in? If you Brits don't like people coming into your country, why don't you have the balls to kick them out or not let them in in the first place?
How are your hundreds of thousands of Russians in your country working out? How about all the Muslims in your country?
Are you OK with them mixing with your gene pool??
But frankly I don't think you're an Englishman. You sound like that usual suspect anti-Polish troll who lives on this forum with his unlimited time.
poles were so hardworking and enterprising, as we keep hearing, they would have a working economy of their own.
Yes I'm sure that's how the Polish-Brit Joseph Conrad lived in Britain LOL
No the Germans didn't flock to England but they flocked to just about every other part of the world. Germans proportionally left Germany to other countries more than Poles have left Poland despite Poland being ripped apart by predator nations.
Also what do you care about people coming to England "adulterating" English blood? You guys have welcomed with open arms just about every Tom Dick and Harry ethnic group to come into your country to mix with you. Don't be a hypocrite. Including those who are proactively trying to subvert your culture and bomb you.
If England allows immigrants from other countries that bomb English subways and foment riots against England in general, certainly England can allow Poles into England.
They are here because the EU invited them to gatecrash our hometowns.
Well if "nobody wants" Poles in England, why do you guys allow them in? If you Brits don't like people coming into your country, why don't you have the balls to kick them out or not let them in in the first place?
How are your hundreds of thousands of Russians in your country working out? How about all the Muslims in your country?
Are you OK with them mixing with your gene pool??
But frankly I don't think you're an Englishman. You sound like that usual suspect anti-Polish troll who lives on this forum with his unlimited time.
MediaWatch
29 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
Among normal Americans this anti-Polish stereotype has largely passed.
You might only hear it sometimes from insecure/unsophisticated Americans. But in that case you just consider the source. But its definitely not in the mainstream media like it was decades ago.
honestly, hasn't that stereotype passed by now? i mean, does anyone even say this anymore? "Dumb Poles"??? nobody takes that seriously anymore, do they?
Among normal Americans this anti-Polish stereotype has largely passed.
You might only hear it sometimes from insecure/unsophisticated Americans. But in that case you just consider the source. But its definitely not in the mainstream media like it was decades ago.
MediaWatch
29 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
Yes politics going against the Polish people by people in the media, prompted part of the Polish-Bashing back then.
I virtually never hear it either. Maybe its because I deal with normal people in my daily life who aren't prejudice against anyone.
Virtually the only times I hear these jokes against Polish people, is by Polish-haters here on the internet.
Yes politics going against the Polish people by people in the media, prompted part of the Polish-Bashing back then.
Never heard of this before...vodka drinkers.. yes, heard that....hard workers ...yep, heard that too.....not heard of them being stupid though.
I virtually never hear it either. Maybe its because I deal with normal people in my daily life who aren't prejudice against anyone.
Virtually the only times I hear these jokes against Polish people, is by Polish-haters here on the internet.
MediaWatch
20 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
LOL!!
Holy cow! Within MINUTES of my post of the "Enemy Within" living in Poland, and LO and BEHOLD, guess who immediately responds to it???
Speak of the devil!!!
As for me "not speaking Polish" you and I have already went around and around and around on this already. I speak some Polish while you speak just 25 words of Polish. OK maybe its up to 27 words of Polish you know now LOL And you supposedly live in Poland.
As for the Enemy Within in Poland, once again I already spoke about this and if I'm not mistaken you dedicated a topic to this interesting issue. Hmmmm I wonder why? LOL
Tell me, MediaWatch - you don't speak Polish, so what do you know about this alleged 'Enemy Within'?
For instance, why not tell us who you think this enemy is? I'm curious - names would be appreciated?
I mean - if you know about it, and you don't speak Polish - they must be pretty well known in the English speaking world. So - who are they?
For instance, why not tell us who you think this enemy is? I'm curious - names would be appreciated?
I mean - if you know about it, and you don't speak Polish - they must be pretty well known in the English speaking world. So - who are they?
LOL!!
Holy cow! Within MINUTES of my post of the "Enemy Within" living in Poland, and LO and BEHOLD, guess who immediately responds to it???
Speak of the devil!!!
As for me "not speaking Polish" you and I have already went around and around and around on this already. I speak some Polish while you speak just 25 words of Polish. OK maybe its up to 27 words of Polish you know now LOL And you supposedly live in Poland.
As for the Enemy Within in Poland, once again I already spoke about this and if I'm not mistaken you dedicated a topic to this interesting issue. Hmmmm I wonder why? LOL
MediaWatch
20 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
I don’t think this is about offending or not offending Pat Sajak fans. I personally am neutral on him. I don’t really watch him.
I’m just a little confused why you brought up a mistake Sajak made to suggest as an answer to “Stereotypes of Polish people as stupid”. Which by the way is a Nazi stereotype of Polish people.
This is true. So I’m a little confused why you brought up an example of a blooper of Pat Sajak to somehow answer “Stereotypes of Polish people as stupid” when people of all ethnic backgrounds make bloopers.
Common sense is mostly elusive with the Lefties and Enemy Within of Poland. But to be fair, there are some regular Poles who failed to have common sense for allowing so many Leftists and Enemy Within types to live in Poland.
Sorry, hope I haven't offended any Pat Sajak fans...
I don’t think this is about offending or not offending Pat Sajak fans. I personally am neutral on him. I don’t really watch him.
I’m just a little confused why you brought up a mistake Sajak made to suggest as an answer to “Stereotypes of Polish people as stupid”. Which by the way is a Nazi stereotype of Polish people.
Of course this isn't the case. Bloopers are made on television all the time. With millions of viewers they are easily noticed.
This is true. So I’m a little confused why you brought up an example of a blooper of Pat Sajak to somehow answer “Stereotypes of Polish people as stupid” when people of all ethnic backgrounds make bloopers.
In modern Poland, common sense is often elusive.
Common sense is mostly elusive with the Lefties and Enemy Within of Poland. But to be fair, there are some regular Poles who failed to have common sense for allowing so many Leftists and Enemy Within types to live in Poland.
MediaWatch
20 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
What does that mean?
So if somebody of Polish ancestry makes a mistake its because "he has inferior intelligence" but when others make a similar mistake (and more often) their ancestry is not an issue?
Those in the media who have pushed the inferior intelligence stereotype about Poles would have had a field day if they chose to use that same standard with half of the countries in the world that happen to be third world.
What does that mean?
So if somebody of Polish ancestry makes a mistake its because "he has inferior intelligence" but when others make a similar mistake (and more often) their ancestry is not an issue?
Those in the media who have pushed the inferior intelligence stereotype about Poles would have had a field day if they chose to use that same standard with half of the countries in the world that happen to be third world.
MediaWatch
13 Jul 2011
News / Tragedy in Russia - shouldn`t Poland declare national mourning? [41]
You make a good point.
If only Russia put the effort into safety codes as it has in building up to date rockets and equipment for war, more of these Russian accidents can be prevented.
Also two Russian ships just cruised by the drowning people without helping them. What was that about??
My say will be more helpful to these people than when I be trying to be "polite".
You make a good point.
If only Russia put the effort into safety codes as it has in building up to date rockets and equipment for war, more of these Russian accidents can be prevented.
Also two Russian ships just cruised by the drowning people without helping them. What was that about??
MediaWatch
12 Jul 2011
News / Tragedy in Russia - shouldn`t Poland declare national mourning? [41]
Don't forget our Slavic Serbian brothers. ;)
If its a major tragedy like this happening in a Slavic country, I think Poles should mourn it. But it doesn't have to be in a high profile way.
I agree.
Any kind gesture from average Polish people I think would be nice.
Not to get into the Smolensk tragedy, but many Poles and much of the Polish diaspora appreciated the kind sympathetic gestures of average Russians towards Poland at that time.
When Russia had its uncontrolled fires last year, Poland sent about 55 firetrucks and a small army of firefighters to help put out those fires.
Here in the US, like you say, it would be nice for Polish Americans to reach out to the Russian embassy on on this.
Ok, fair enough but how about our Czech, Slovak, and Croatian brothers and sisters?
Don't forget our Slavic Serbian brothers. ;)
If its a major tragedy like this happening in a Slavic country, I think Poles should mourn it. But it doesn't have to be in a high profile way.
That'll mean more than what the Polish government does.
I agree.
Any kind gesture from average Polish people I think would be nice.
Not to get into the Smolensk tragedy, but many Poles and much of the Polish diaspora appreciated the kind sympathetic gestures of average Russians towards Poland at that time.
When Russia had its uncontrolled fires last year, Poland sent about 55 firetrucks and a small army of firefighters to help put out those fires.
Here in the US, like you say, it would be nice for Polish Americans to reach out to the Russian embassy on on this.
MediaWatch
10 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
No I don't hate Jews in general like you do. If I did I would hate a part of myself. I only criticize bad Jews just like I praise good Jews.
You never say anything good about Jews.
As usual Ivan you sound like a moron.
Of course you won't make any jokes about Russians despite the fact there are tons of videos about drunk/stupid/backward Russians out there.
I doubt Poles "locked themselves in ghettos and didn't socialize with other ethnicities" to make themselves "outcasts" more then anyone else. Even if they did, its doubtful that prompted the racist jokes about Polish people when they were at their peak in the 70's.
Yeah I'm sure Polish Americans were frantically locking themselves into ghettos in the 70's more than everyone else, when anti-Polish bigotry and Polish-Bashing jokes was at its peak in America LOL. No all the anti-Polish slurs/jokes heard in the 1970's that sounded just like Archie Bunker's anti-Polish slurs seen by 40 million people a week had nothing to do with these anti-Polish slurs going on in America at that time. LOL Also all the anti-Polish jokes told by Americans in the 70's, that sounded just like the anti-Polish jokes by Late night NBC-TV Bigots was also a coincidence as well.
You are absolutely correct...I am actually Russian...And yes, I hate Jews, but yet I don't hate them enough for your taste....
No I don't hate Jews in general like you do. If I did I would hate a part of myself. I only criticize bad Jews just like I praise good Jews.
You never say anything good about Jews.
they would have a lighted pathway until the generator was fixed.
As usual Ivan you sound like a moron.
Of course you won't make any jokes about Russians despite the fact there are tons of videos about drunk/stupid/backward Russians out there.
I doubt Poles "locked themselves in ghettos and didn't socialize with other ethnicities" to make themselves "outcasts" more then anyone else. Even if they did, its doubtful that prompted the racist jokes about Polish people when they were at their peak in the 70's.
Yeah I'm sure Polish Americans were frantically locking themselves into ghettos in the 70's more than everyone else, when anti-Polish bigotry and Polish-Bashing jokes was at its peak in America LOL. No all the anti-Polish slurs/jokes heard in the 1970's that sounded just like Archie Bunker's anti-Polish slurs seen by 40 million people a week had nothing to do with these anti-Polish slurs going on in America at that time. LOL Also all the anti-Polish jokes told by Americans in the 70's, that sounded just like the anti-Polish jokes by Late night NBC-TV Bigots was also a coincidence as well.
MediaWatch
8 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
Oh stop it with this "You can't be afraid to laugh at yourself" nonsense to codone ethnic slurs against Polish people. I believe we as individuals should be able to laugh at ourselves, yes. But this shouldn't be used to condoned ethnic slurs against a whole group of people.
Have you ever noticed that the non-Polish people who preach to Polish people that "Polish people should be able to laugh at Polish jokes", HATE it when jokes are made about their ethnic background? Why do they have such a hard time laughing at jokes at the expense of their ancestry? You sound like one of those people.
Can you laugh at yourself for being an idiot who pretends to be Polish and sounds like a racist anti-semitic idiot half the time?
Do you go up to Jewish people and Black people and tell them they should laugh at themselves with jokes that insult them?? Or any group of people for that matter?
What I find interesting, is how a guy like you who hates Jewish people so much, goes easy on the media Jews who have done the most to slander Polish people. Evidently you LIKE those Jews who slander Polish people. I find that interesting. Your not really Polish. Your just some guy who knows something about Polish people and uses this forum to attack Jews and then make back handed comments about Polish people.
Why don't you make some jokes about Russians? You seem like an anti-semitic Russian who uses Polish forums to bash the Jewish people. Delphiadomine says your Russian.
You didn't poke fun at it. You promoted it even more. If you were to poke fun at it, you would poke fun at those Anti-Polish Bigots who have pushed it.
Gee, no sh** Sherlock. You have bad people in any group. So I guess we should find the bad apples in a given group of people and make insult jokes about the whole group based on the bad apples? And if your going to make jokes against Polish people and you feel some are miserable and nasty, why don't you make jokes about them being miserable and nasty and not make Nazi subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people?
Oh stop it with this "You can't be afraid to laugh at yourself" nonsense to codone ethnic slurs against Polish people. I believe we as individuals should be able to laugh at ourselves, yes. But this shouldn't be used to condoned ethnic slurs against a whole group of people.
Have you ever noticed that the non-Polish people who preach to Polish people that "Polish people should be able to laugh at Polish jokes", HATE it when jokes are made about their ethnic background? Why do they have such a hard time laughing at jokes at the expense of their ancestry? You sound like one of those people.
Can you laugh at yourself for being an idiot who pretends to be Polish and sounds like a racist anti-semitic idiot half the time?
Do you go up to Jewish people and Black people and tell them they should laugh at themselves with jokes that insult them?? Or any group of people for that matter?
What I find interesting, is how a guy like you who hates Jewish people so much, goes easy on the media Jews who have done the most to slander Polish people. Evidently you LIKE those Jews who slander Polish people. I find that interesting. Your not really Polish. Your just some guy who knows something about Polish people and uses this forum to attack Jews and then make back handed comments about Polish people.
Why don't you make some jokes about Russians? You seem like an anti-semitic Russian who uses Polish forums to bash the Jewish people. Delphiadomine says your Russian.
I just poked fun at one of the most common 'Polish' jokes.
You didn't poke fun at it. You promoted it even more. If you were to poke fun at it, you would poke fun at those Anti-Polish Bigots who have pushed it.
I care about Poles, but Poles are like everyone else, and some can be quite nasty and miserable.
Gee, no sh** Sherlock. You have bad people in any group. So I guess we should find the bad apples in a given group of people and make insult jokes about the whole group based on the bad apples? And if your going to make jokes against Polish people and you feel some are miserable and nasty, why don't you make jokes about them being miserable and nasty and not make Nazi subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people?
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3 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
Stop being an idiot.
Its hard to believe you're really Polish.
You are quick to act like a nationalistic Pole who's quick to criticize Jews for things, but you say nothing about those left-wing Jews who flooded America with TV shows and insult "joke books" initiating these subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people.
You don't care about Polish people. You just use them when you want to blab your criticisms of Jews in general.
Stop being an idiot.
Its hard to believe you're really Polish.
You are quick to act like a nationalistic Pole who's quick to criticize Jews for things, but you say nothing about those left-wing Jews who flooded America with TV shows and insult "joke books" initiating these subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people.
You don't care about Polish people. You just use them when you want to blab your criticisms of Jews in general.
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2 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
Who were these Americans that thought that? Other Americans themselves who were of ethnic groups that were being ridiculed??
Perhaps there was some of that stereotype about Poles back in the 1700's and 1800's but it was less relative to other groups coming over for the simple reason there weren't as many Poles coming over as the Irish, Germans, etc.
In those days believe it or not, the earliest Americans (of English ancestry) ridiculed the Germans because they thought the Germans "weren't smart enough" to assimilate into America because of their hard grasp of the English language and American culture.
Then the Irish were ridiculed tremendously by the English-Americans because of their grudge against them. There were newspaper portrayals as Irish being "backward white monkeys" There was a lot of propaganda about "Irish and dogs need not apply".
Then after that Italians were ridiculed as being "W.O.P.s". "With out papers" and other anti-Italian propaganda.
This is true.
But what about the surge of anti-Polish slurs that occured about 50 years ago in the US?? Was that due to some surge of Polish immigrants 50 years ago who couldn't assimilate into the US? I doubt it.
My parents and other older Polish Americans told me, when they grew up in the 50's they never heard any of these negative ethnic references about Polish people having inferior intelligence.
Then like a tidal wave, in the late 60's and early 70's, there was this surge of people saying subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people and the harping on "Dumb Polack this" and "Dumb Polack that", "Meathead dumb Polack", etc. "Meathead dumb Polack" came from the mind of CBS-TV anti-Polish Bigot Norman Lear when he created "All in the Family".
These SPECIFIC Anti-Polish soundbites did not exist in the 1700's and 1800's. Americans in the 60's and 70's were merely imitating the anti-Polish sound bites they saw on TV. This was the root of the all the Polish-bashing that took place afterwards.
The 1960's-70's Hollywood/TV media complex was the main origin of subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people here. Especially NBC-TV
These stereotypes about poles being dumb originated back in the late 1700s and 1800s when poles began migrating to the US. Most of these Poles were uneducated peasants who couldn't read or write in Polish. When they were asked to write down their names for US officials and couldn't, Americans began to think that all Poles were "dumb."
Who were these Americans that thought that? Other Americans themselves who were of ethnic groups that were being ridiculed??
Perhaps there was some of that stereotype about Poles back in the 1700's and 1800's but it was less relative to other groups coming over for the simple reason there weren't as many Poles coming over as the Irish, Germans, etc.
In those days believe it or not, the earliest Americans (of English ancestry) ridiculed the Germans because they thought the Germans "weren't smart enough" to assimilate into America because of their hard grasp of the English language and American culture.
Then the Irish were ridiculed tremendously by the English-Americans because of their grudge against them. There were newspaper portrayals as Irish being "backward white monkeys" There was a lot of propaganda about "Irish and dogs need not apply".
Then after that Italians were ridiculed as being "W.O.P.s". "With out papers" and other anti-Italian propaganda.
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keep in mind, many ethnc groups were ridiculed in the US at one point or another. Such jokes always originated amongst Americans of English descent and the major were directed at catholic groups (ie poles, irish).
keep in mind, many ethnc groups were ridiculed in the US at one point or another. Such jokes always originated amongst Americans of English descent and the major were directed at catholic groups (ie poles, irish).
This is true.
But what about the surge of anti-Polish slurs that occured about 50 years ago in the US?? Was that due to some surge of Polish immigrants 50 years ago who couldn't assimilate into the US? I doubt it.
My parents and other older Polish Americans told me, when they grew up in the 50's they never heard any of these negative ethnic references about Polish people having inferior intelligence.
Then like a tidal wave, in the late 60's and early 70's, there was this surge of people saying subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people and the harping on "Dumb Polack this" and "Dumb Polack that", "Meathead dumb Polack", etc. "Meathead dumb Polack" came from the mind of CBS-TV anti-Polish Bigot Norman Lear when he created "All in the Family".
These SPECIFIC Anti-Polish soundbites did not exist in the 1700's and 1800's. Americans in the 60's and 70's were merely imitating the anti-Polish sound bites they saw on TV. This was the root of the all the Polish-bashing that took place afterwards.
The 1960's-70's Hollywood/TV media complex was the main origin of subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people here. Especially NBC-TV
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2 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]
You really sound like an ignorant anti-Polish troll.
It took Nazi Germany AND Soviet Russia 5 weeks to fully take over Poland. Although German forces were in Warsaw in several weeks, the rest of Poland was still fighting BOTH the Germans AND Russians for 5 weeks.
Nazi Germany by itself was limited to about 35 days of fuel and was given years of fuel by Russia as per the Molotov Ribbentrop Germany-Russia friendship pact.
France fell to Germany ALONE in 3 weeks.
Also the Polish Calvary NEVER attacked German tanks. That was part of the Nazi German BIG LIE hate campaign against Polish people.
The Polish calvary was used to position Polish soldiers where they can best use their anti-tank RPG's on German tanks. Also the German tanks back then were crap in comparison to tanks today. They weren't very manueverable in muddy terrain and the German tanks had to have their hatches open because they had poor ventilation. There were many times when the German tanks were sluggish in the mud and Polish soldiers would just run up and drop grenades inside the tanks blowing up the occupants.
As for the stereotype that Polish people have subhuman intelligence, it was started by the Nazis and then Hollywood and the Leftist TV networks ironically introduced it into America in the 60's and 70's in an attempt to condition the public to have the same anti-Polish prejudice that they have.
Subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people origin is Nazi Propaganda
frmilovan.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/5828o/
I think the stereotype started in World War II when Poland tried to fight German tanks with Cavalry (horses). Needless to say, Poland was taken in mere hours. This is why people say Polish people are stupid.
You really sound like an ignorant anti-Polish troll.
It took Nazi Germany AND Soviet Russia 5 weeks to fully take over Poland. Although German forces were in Warsaw in several weeks, the rest of Poland was still fighting BOTH the Germans AND Russians for 5 weeks.
Nazi Germany by itself was limited to about 35 days of fuel and was given years of fuel by Russia as per the Molotov Ribbentrop Germany-Russia friendship pact.
France fell to Germany ALONE in 3 weeks.
Also the Polish Calvary NEVER attacked German tanks. That was part of the Nazi German BIG LIE hate campaign against Polish people.
The Polish calvary was used to position Polish soldiers where they can best use their anti-tank RPG's on German tanks. Also the German tanks back then were crap in comparison to tanks today. They weren't very manueverable in muddy terrain and the German tanks had to have their hatches open because they had poor ventilation. There were many times when the German tanks were sluggish in the mud and Polish soldiers would just run up and drop grenades inside the tanks blowing up the occupants.
As for the stereotype that Polish people have subhuman intelligence, it was started by the Nazis and then Hollywood and the Leftist TV networks ironically introduced it into America in the 60's and 70's in an attempt to condition the public to have the same anti-Polish prejudice that they have.
Subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people origin is Nazi Propaganda
frmilovan.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/5828o/
MediaWatch
28 Jun 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]
Oh yes I did too :) :) :) :)
She's looks like a wonder woman or superwoman :)
Oh she's NICE!!
Yes liked her in Bedazzled ;)
Oh yes I did too :) :) :) :)
She's looks like a wonder woman or superwoman :)
Gemma Arterton is a hot English actress also.
Oh she's NICE!!
MediaWatch
28 Jun 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]
PennBoy you're right.
The British have some pretty hot babes.
That Elizabeth Hurley is smoking hot.
(I'd post pictures but I haven't figured out how....DOH!)
Hurley is 46 now and she's still hot.
PennBoy you're right.
The British have some pretty hot babes.
That Elizabeth Hurley is smoking hot.
(I'd post pictures but I haven't figured out how....DOH!)
Hurley is 46 now and she's still hot.
MediaWatch
21 Jun 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]
Polski you are getting a little carried away with your Polish nationalism/ethno-centrism.
You have beautiful women from all countries of all different ethnic backgrounds.
Polski you are getting a little carried away with your Polish nationalism/ethno-centrism.
You have beautiful women from all countries of all different ethnic backgrounds.
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20 Jun 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]
This is just another anti-Polish troll topic.
You disparage Polish men with a negative generalization and then you talk about Polish women in an excessively positive manner that will only prompt anti-Polish attacks.
Whenever somebody says nation A has the "best" or "most (fill in the blank)", you're just setting them up for abuse and racism with these loaded statements.
Sadly people have taken your bait on this topic.
This is just another anti-Polish troll topic.
You disparage Polish men with a negative generalization and then you talk about Polish women in an excessively positive manner that will only prompt anti-Polish attacks.
Whenever somebody says nation A has the "best" or "most (fill in the blank)", you're just setting them up for abuse and racism with these loaded statements.
Sadly people have taken your bait on this topic.
MediaWatch
16 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]
Do you have evidence of these insinuations of yours?
Or this just more of these troll like "How many times did you beat your wife?" type comments to knock the Poles who fought?
You mean like actively collaborating with the Germans? And preferring killing Jews to fighting the Nazis?
Do you have evidence of these insinuations of yours?
Or this just more of these troll like "How many times did you beat your wife?" type comments to knock the Poles who fought?
MediaWatch
16 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]
Well you see the problem is, the reaction you are having now to the non-stop Polish-Bashing by vicious anti-Polish Bigots like Delphiadomine is the reaction that anti-Polish bigots like him wants.
He wants people of Polish ancestry in Poland and outside of Poland to feel bad about their Polish heritage. This mostly started when some Poles and Polish Americans started to question the Russian Smolensk plane crash investigation which made Delphiadomine go crazy. He has spent literally HUNDREDS of hours on that topic fighting tooth and nail to defend Russia on that topic. NO person of NON-Russian ancestry would ever do that. Ever since then, his Polish-Bashing spiked up dramatically where he then went to other topics putting a microscope on every conceivable form of imagined Polish wrong doing and even lying about Poles, just to "get back at" those Poles who questioned his RuSSians in the Smolensk crash.
His non-stop spamming of this forum of every imaginable dreamed up horrible thing you could think about Polish people is part of his Russian hate campaign against Polish people. And yes he IS of Russian ancestry. That's why he goes insane when Poles dare to criticize his Russia. Don't be fooled by his token criticisms of Russia to throw you off.
Whenever somebody says that a certain group has a "national trait of...." to generalize about a group of people, its the person making that accusation who has the trait of a bigot. In your case you are a Russian racist Bigot who is obsessed that there are some Poles who questioned Russia during the Smolensk investigation and disagree with Russia. But even before that you were whining about how Poles shouldn't think badly of Russia today because of what Soviet Russia did to Poland. Why bring this up when nobody was talking about it? Who cares what Poles think or don't think about Russia? Except of course if you're of RuSSian ancestry??
As for your trait, you have the trait of being a RuSSian Nazi Anti-Polish Bigot.
Well you see the problem is, the reaction you are having now to the non-stop Polish-Bashing by vicious anti-Polish Bigots like Delphiadomine is the reaction that anti-Polish bigots like him wants.
He wants people of Polish ancestry in Poland and outside of Poland to feel bad about their Polish heritage. This mostly started when some Poles and Polish Americans started to question the Russian Smolensk plane crash investigation which made Delphiadomine go crazy. He has spent literally HUNDREDS of hours on that topic fighting tooth and nail to defend Russia on that topic. NO person of NON-Russian ancestry would ever do that. Ever since then, his Polish-Bashing spiked up dramatically where he then went to other topics putting a microscope on every conceivable form of imagined Polish wrong doing and even lying about Poles, just to "get back at" those Poles who questioned his RuSSians in the Smolensk crash.
His non-stop spamming of this forum of every imaginable dreamed up horrible thing you could think about Polish people is part of his Russian hate campaign against Polish people. And yes he IS of Russian ancestry. That's why he goes insane when Poles dare to criticize his Russia. Don't be fooled by his token criticisms of Russia to throw you off.
The Polish trait of denying everything, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, has a lot to answer for.
Whenever somebody says that a certain group has a "national trait of...." to generalize about a group of people, its the person making that accusation who has the trait of a bigot. In your case you are a Russian racist Bigot who is obsessed that there are some Poles who questioned Russia during the Smolensk investigation and disagree with Russia. But even before that you were whining about how Poles shouldn't think badly of Russia today because of what Soviet Russia did to Poland. Why bring this up when nobody was talking about it? Who cares what Poles think or don't think about Russia? Except of course if you're of RuSSian ancestry??
As for your trait, you have the trait of being a RuSSian Nazi Anti-Polish Bigot.
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8 May 2011
History / Where did the power of Poland vanish to, since... let`s say, some 300 years ago? [180]
Of course numbers isn't everything, but it SURE HELPS!
Its like saying money won't give you happiness, but for me (and many other people) it sure beats having no money LOL
Of course numbers isn't everything, but it SURE HELPS!
Its like saying money won't give you happiness, but for me (and many other people) it sure beats having no money LOL