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Ironside   
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Another threat from Ironside?

Do you have an obsession or just cannot help yourself? Do you suffer from a persecution complex?

I'm only expressing hope that they will do what they say they will do.

Aren't upside-down red triangles traditional for our kind of Pole?

For you and you kind I picture the three-pronged hat with bells on the end all in vibrant red.
Ironside   
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Thousands of citizens have said they aim to sue the leader of Poland's governing Law and Justice (PiS), after he called the party's opponents "Poles of the worst kind."

Good, they should all sign it and put their addresses in as well, no need for proscription lists - they'll do it all themselves! Just lovely!
Ironside   
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

See, Ironside, again - you're not addressing the topic at all, but rather trying to derail it.

Nah, that is a lie!
You have being derailing this thread for the last 15 posts! you don't address issues either just playing a victim and skimming on the surface!

The poll results are clear

the polls are BS, that paper is heavily biased against PiS and is well know for publishing propaganda rather than facts and anybody with a working knowledge of the Polish language knows that!

Poles are annoyed with PiS and blame them for the problems with the TK.

Nah PO and their cronies and voters including their (banksters- sock puppet) sidekick Nowoczesna are kicking up that fuss! Nobody else!

Fortunately, opposition numbers are swelling.

In your imagination! Who was against PiS, still is nothing new there!

On the Brightside, at least with PIS winning the election, we don't have to worry about ISIS as the only terrorists in Poland is PIS...

I see another defender of democracy! phew!
Ironside   
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Another fine example of insults

For you anything you don't know how to counter is either threat or insult or both. There was a movie I don't remember much about but a certain character a boy who reacted much in the same way. If and when he was addressed, he would respond with - is that a threat? In the movie it was quite funny but in the real life debate it is tenuous, boring and off-topic. Only people without class and arguments would use such a childish tactics. .
Ironside   
15 Dec 2015
Genealogy / What are common Polish character traits? [425]

I think you're being deliberately obtuse

No, Atch some people are just that sensitive on some issues which others find debatable or immaterial. It is more common that you may thunk.

Polish men lech over women quite a bit in my experience

That is a compliment for woman femininity and attractiveness, a something rather quite different to a vulgar catcalls. :)
Ironside   
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Poland will never be at peace until these ghosts are gone

What ghosts? If you think that this conflict is about individuals or personalities you are wrong.

Everyone except hardcore PiS fans is utterly sick of the sight of Jarek and his ilk.

Yep, decades of black PR.

but their post-election behaviour is worrying those who fear for Poland's young and fragile democracy.

Hmm, by kicking up fuss about PO having majority in the constitutional court and wanting even greater majority?
Is that all about it? In that case people are confusing PO with PiS otherwise it doesn't make sense.

wyborcza.pl

Bhahaha! Delph go west!
You could go and ask for polls to The Völkischer Beobachter !
Ironside   
14 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

You can all argue to and fro to the end of time.

Facts are as follow:
PiS own fair and square a democratic election. A month hasn't passed as yet when opposition and losers kicked up a hysterical campaign to blacken and besmirch winners. MP of opposition are making a spectacle out of themselves crying and winging and using utterly inappropriate slogans for an allegedly respectable and reasonable option they claim to be.

They claim to be defending democracy but as they are questioning results of the democratic election at the some time by taking supporters to the streets its doesn't make sense.

If something doesn't make sense it is more oft than not a lie.

As a pretexts they use the issue of the Constitutional Court where all pro and cons to the medium are obscure for the public and ambiguous. There is no clear cut right or wrong and the blame cannot be put squarely at the door of one party as some would want us to believe it.

Unsuspected reader consider this:
That Court consists of 15 judges, ten of them are PO (current opposition) nominees, only five are nominees of the current government.
Yes, opposition is kicking all that fuss and getting hysterical and unbalanced because they have majority in the Constitutional Court.
What they want?

They want three more judges to have them more(sic?) or greater majority in the Court.
What it has to do with democracy I don't know and those kicking up that conflict don't know it either. Does it make a sense t o you?

Makes no sense to me!

I suspect that opposition is unable to reconcile with the fact they have lost an election and are reading a ground to attempt a coup or at least are trying to force an early election as if that would to them any good.

Posing as a defenders those people are the worst threat to the democracy in Poland there is.
Ironside   
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

You can see for yourself on the TK website

Is that the same website that miraculously disappeared for days to reappear with a new content?
Ironside   
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

So because PO have only 10 judges out of 15 in the TK they claim it is the end of the world. What would they say if those proportions wasn't in their favor? Implode?

An absolutely beautiful comparison made today

As much classy and informative and as much valid as posting your picture next to a picture of a known child abuser and saying look at the similarities.
Ironside   
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

Usual nonsense, Ironside?

Yes an utter usual tripe on your part - an example :

the number of the fascist

By the way that is something what an radical leftie extremist would say. :)

The numbers are straightforward, yesterday's demonstration got three times

Yes because your word holds more sway than an official report of the police monitoring both events.

Unless of course you were on one of your extremely rare visits to Poland and counted them...

Off topic or as your friend Harry says ad hominem trolling.

These words were uttered by Kornel Morawiecki from Kukiz'15.

Delph who translated those words for you? Poorly done.
He meant that if somebody is compering JK to Jaruzleski it is an utter disgrace that there are such a people who make comparison like that. He got a point.
Ironside   
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

What are you talking about?

About the fact that three members of the TK took an active part in writing that July bill.

The job is to strike down the unconstitutional parts of laws

They can strike down themselves then!

They have not been elected legally, as the Constitutional Tribunal ruled

They cannot rule in their own case, that a basic rule of any civilized legal system.

the more people will be on the streets.

Let them stay there! Soon they will annoy normal people who are demonstrating today.

the rule of law.

What rule of law? That is politics the law is for people not people for the law, it is all democracy in making, evidently TK in the current shape and form is not longer feasible.

Hahahahaha.

Don't need your hysterical laugh here delp, calm down.

More threats

What threats>? You are the one making threats on line, no me! Don't measure others by your own yard stick delph, or is that your paranoia kicked in again?
Ironside   
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

I'd settle for publication of the TK rulings and accepting the oaths of the three judges legitimately appointed by PO

They weren't legitimately appointed as by ruling of the same TK, the ruling that a bill is partially OK and partially not OK is a nonsense as saying that somebody is partially pregnant.

Anyway three judges should resin now and make a space for those three newly appointed ones if they are such a sticklers for the law? After all those three TK judges took active part in writing what is now recognized by themselves as unconstitutional.

as well as the first two of the five selected by PiS, that is the first two whose oaths he accpeted).

Those have been elected legally, no reason for them to be culled, nor legal precedence or procedures to do so.

No, but the longer the PiS government continues to flout the law with impunity the more bridges it is burning.

There are no bridges to burn, all are burned down.

Well if PiS unleashes force against peaceful protesters

They can get their mugs beaten up by the annoyed supporters of the current government if they will get fed up with the establishment brass kicking up the fuss and hysteria.

PiS is the driver of the current deepening divide

That Sir is a bare assed lie!
Ironside   
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

Foreigners who anonymously attack the legitimacy

What about foreigners who anonymously attack the legitimacy of the Polish government? Don't have a problem with that?
Ironside   
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

Ironside, why are you using such language? What scares you so much?

What? What are you even talking about? I hate those "people" for a number of reasons you seemingly cannot grasp. As I said Delph it is not your fight.

I know you're a diehard PiS supporter

You are astubborn nerd I have no reason to lie about it. I'm not as I said I support RN.
Ironside   
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

I spoke to some old ladies today

Who cares what some alleged ladies claimed, if they were attending this gathering of swine mess they have already sided with post-communist. They reminiscences are worthless BS.
Ironside   
11 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

It's completely out of sync with other polls and can't be taken seriously.

Yep, you just saying that because it doesn't support your idea fix that PO somehow is gathering support. Poof! Dream is gone, time to wake up and smell the coffee!
Ironside   
9 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

If you discredit and disobey the Constitution

F C!

What part of Article 190, Paragraph 1 are you struggling with, Ironside?

No, you either playing devil's advocate or talking BS out of ignorance, I'm not going argue with finer points of legal dilemmas as it is a waste of time.

They

No it is all about you, do you always talk about things that exist only I you imagination ?I bet your Polish is as good as delph's
Ironside   
9 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

You haven't got a clue.

About what? He got more sense than you and you are not an expert.

Duda has now been ordered twice to receive the oaths by the legally appointed judges -

You don't know what you are talking about! Stop.

Of course he is, he can't stand the idea of Polish people not being oppressed. For many pseudo Poles their whole identity is built around being oppressed and they wont' give that up easily.

It a biggest lot of crap I have seen on this forum for a while.
Ironside   
9 Dec 2015
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1050]

could be..them names for agriculture and farming thingies,differ from region to region in Poland..

Tartak - tarcica?
Where lays the problem?
Lumber mill - lumber.
Ironside   
9 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

Your reality can only end in tears.

Don't be crying poor little deplhie.

Do you honestly think PiS are going to be allowed to ignore the Constitution?

Yep, mark my words - there are those three options.
Ironside   
9 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

Despite Ironside's claims, the Tribunal must be complied with - there is no possibility of simply ignoring judgements that you don't agree with

There are three choices:
- It can be ignored (bill)
- comply with
- TK dissolution
Ironside   
9 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

Thinking... wouldn't that overturn the idea that the TK is just doing POs bidding?@ mafketis

This is immaterial, first of all lets go back to basic. In Poland Constitution is nothing like American Constitution, secondly nobody cares about constitution in Poland nor voters not a legal system nor politicians, it is not respected like in your country.

Hence this call about throwing way constitution do not have a such a devastating effect as would in your country.
In Poland all those slogans about constitution about doing way with democracy, about dictatorship,xenophobia and other alike are just a hysterical cry of a crew that used to have monopoly on ruling in Poland and they are unable to reconcile and come to terms with a fact they have lost an election.

Thirdly Poland still is dealing with consequences of the 40 years rule of Soviets, being colony and so on, and being in a way divided society along the lines and in the ways which are often confusing even to a Pole let alone to a foreigner. I could go into lengthy explanations and if you are really interested but I sense you don't give a damn.

Fourthly
I see it as majority of Poles that voted for changes and anti-establishment parties that TK is a part and a last ditch of defense of the old system that need to be changed. Poles voting for anti-establishment parties and movements gave their consent to decisive actions for a new government as long as it seem to be doing its job i.e. doing way with the old regime and their posts (TK rightly or wrongly is seen as such).

All those hysterical loops and vibrations we can witness in the press and those pathetically weak in support KOD's and all those denunciation on Polish democratically elected government to the foreign press or to European commission and whatnot is counterproductive as foreigners here (PF) seems to painfully unaware off.

Poles seeing that onslaught aimed at Poland do side with PiS government even if they were/are skeptical as to these party abilities or will to deliver promised changes, in other words those actions are buffing support for PiS or at least for current government.

If as it seems those demonstrations will consists from a few family members of PO, some left nutters and foreigners plus paid "heads" they will become a laughing stock for poles.

I suspect that organizers do realize it but then those demonstrations are not aimed at the Polish public opinion but for the foreign press. In this way those empty claims of denouncers of Poland in the foreign institutions would seem a tad more credible.

Verily I tell you don't mind my yesterday posts as I have no been myself and do go attend those meeting, do not forged to take your passports with you as well as your best pinks outfits, t-shorts with "Che" will do.
Ironside   
9 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

That's called rule of law.

No this is called BS. Why you insists on maintaining an illusion that in Poland rule of law stands?

Would you support what PiS is doing (now) if PO (or any other party) were doing it?

Somebody found out that during PO rule they have ignored TK ruling about 50 times.

That is, are you supporting what PiS is doing because they're PiS or because of legitimate rule of law considerations?

Neither, they are issues at play that you are either unaware of or you are blatantly ignoring them.

Poland needs a law outlawing parties that serve foreign interestsSays the foreigner.

I second that!

Did you learn English from a 1920s phrase book?

As a born and breed American (who choose to identify with Poles) he learned that phrase during his studies, a concept which is entirely alien to you.

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Ironside   
8 Dec 2015
News / Should Poland exit the EU immediately? [377]

Its maybe already too late for Poland to abandon EU

Alone maybe you are right but there are few countries which would go along with Poland.