Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]


history, which is very meaningful

back in the 1997 floods, Hungarian charities started collections to help and they were surprised at how large the response was

The Hungarians I know are either positive (or at most mixed) about Orban, they don't take the pro-Russian rhetoric very seriously

Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]


that's mostly right, but when you ask now a lot of young people have a favorable opinion of the Czechs and barely know who the Slovaks are anymore (Polish Slovak freindship was more based on dislike of Czechs which has mostly disappeared since the end of communism)

agreed


most of the time it doesn't come up so it's more theoretical than real, they certainly aren't enemies like the Russians but most people don't think of them much one way or another...

Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]


In theory for political reasons.... but a lot of Polish people like Czech movies, Czech beer and Prague and Slovakia can't compete.

I'm wondering where "Palestinians" came form on this, Polish people never talk about Palestnians....

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


Like France just yesterday????

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


it absolutely infuriates some that that is not the case... the guilt is supposed to collective and eternal and any deviation from that drives them mad with rage

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Not to anyone born afer 1945....

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


That's not what anyone is 'debating' the question is do Poles who were complicit with the nazis have a greater burden of guilt than Jews who cooperated with nazis?

My take: six of one half a dozen of another

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


more weirdness thinking, I can see it applying to everyone in Poland (and maybe Polish citizens everywhere) but...

gotta link?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


feeling bad that it happened is normal, feeling responsibility for it is abnormal (and sign of an ego out of control)


rather like the insistence of some Israelis that Poles (in general) were complicit in nazi crimes....

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


That whole post makes no sense.... try again.

You're simultaneously trying to excuse any Jewish behavior and instill feelings of collective guilt in kaprys and that's a very nasty thing to do.

No human being born in 1945 or after should feel one shread of collective guilt for the holocaust, it's unhealty and morbid and sick. Sadness that it happened? Yes. Guilt? No.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


This is a remnant of the collective trauma of trying to shop during the communist period (esp mid to late 70s through 1988). Buying food was an exhausting ordeal and meant standing in long lines every single day (or going the more expensive private route or black marketish or underground trade networks). People that grew up with that pass the siege mentality to their children. As I always say, closed stores make Polish people very nervous.

Partly this is the result of communist incompetence (communism in practice fossilizes and institutionalizes incompetence that could never survive otherwise) and partly the general communist aversion to 'over production' (thanks to which we can find things when we need them rather than call a friend of a friend of a cousin who can get his hands on towels (which haven't been in stores for three years).

That said, this law is abou 17th on the list of things to go after PiS for, you could even make the case that regular days without shopping (and the world not coming to an end) is the best way to ease people off the trauma.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


Nope. After Belgium stonewalled Spain in the Puigdemont case, that's dead in the water. Any other country will simply delay until they can't anymore or the country issuing the warrant gives up.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


This wasn't in the station across the street and a couple of minutes by foot a little farther (kind of under railroad tracks or a road IIRC) kind of grimy and loud but open, so hooray.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

They're mostly closed? I remember arriving in Berlin once on Sunday afternoon and being surprised/disappointed that most stores were closed, though I did find a kind of supermarket open not far from Zoo station.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


Like the gigantic fire in your posterior?


Answer: No, no there was not. Pending new evidence..... Case closed! (so that a special international firefighting team can be assembled to try to stop the smoke billowing out of the back of your pants).

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


Post the references here or you're just blowing smoke out your @ss (yet again, you got a forest fire going on in there or what?)

Travel / Warsaw weather in april? [13]

Maybe he's a brother of our Greek self-proclaimed hunk....

Travel / Warsaw weather in april? [13]

Anywhere from 10ish to 15ish (or a bit colder there can still be occasional snow flurries)

Weather in Poland is notoriously unpredictable and changes very rapidly (it's not hard to get weather that seems form different seasons in one day).

Start looking at forecasts about a week before, no sooner.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


Well Poland has a tradition of passing badly written ambiguous laws 'written on the knee' (napisane na kolanie) and it's my understanding that it's mean to apply to everyone everywhere (which would make it a bubel prawny...)


A marionette can break free of his strings for only so long.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


Well it's crap so that's good. I'm against the law (and holocaust denial laws) on general free speech grounds but as long as holocaust denial laws are on the books I could tolerate this law if it were dialed back and limited to people on the territory of Poland or Polish citizens (wherever). It could even include that public use or propogation of the phrase would be grounds for denying visas... but at present it's just a trashy mess.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


So wild, unfounded and unsupported accusations are the order of the day! My own is that you just made up the idea that there was a scandal hoping people here would fall for it.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


I maybe very vaguely remember something minor (usual crap with kickbacks or something like that) but I might be mistaken and have it confused with something else.

Since jon brought it up it's his responsibility to provide a link or accept that maybe _his_ memory isn't what it used to be... starość nie radość as they say.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


You finally accepted that lyzko knows more about Polish people than you (since he's had so much more experience with them), when will you accept that jon knows far more about things happening in the country? If he says there was a scandal then of course there was a scandal and there's something wrong with you if you don't believe him.

Get with the program!

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

What on earth makes you think I'm suggesting that? You really read _waaaaaay_ too much into some things that people write.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

it's hard for me to get toooo worked up about it, a day without consuming.... oh my god the sky is falling!

there's much better stuff going on for enemies of PiS to get their teeth into but since I refuse to start new threads nobody's addressing them, like the government giving themselves bonuses and morawiecki trying to conceal his wealth...

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


Some Polish pasta is okay, but it tends to go from undercooked to overcooked and soggy in the blink of an eye. Italian pasta is better, and French pasta is even better....

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]


Budapest was a cosmopolitan multi-cultural place in the 19th century with at least one huge wave of migration (by Czechs lured by factory work, within a generation or two they had lost Czech and become Hungarian in language and outlook.

There's a reason that many Hungarian last names are Slavic demonyms (Horvath = Croat, Lengyel = Pole, Cseh = Czech are the largest though there are others as well). There's also lots of last names that are clearly Magyarized Slavic names.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

That's a national myth that hardly anyone except crazed nationalists take seriously, again walk down the streets of Budapest or Miskolc or Szeged or Pecs for a half an hour or so and try to claim that Hungarians are genetically homogenous. It's pretty homogenous in terms of language (even gypsies use hungarian with each other in public rather than romany) a little less so in culture (it's a lot more stratified than Poland) but genetically it's very, very mixed.

And again according to dna testing hungarians are mostly slavs and germans who've been assimilated to hungarian language and culture

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


No. Jews are. There was no functioning Polish state form 1939-44 so there is no way the Polish state bears responsibility for the crimes carried out by foreign powers while it was occupied by a power devoted to its destruction.

Some individual Polish people cooperated and so did some individual Jews.

Poles feel no collective guilt for the holocaust and tantrums won't change that.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]


You've obviously never been on the ground in Hungary (especially Budapest or the East) which is marked by a large amount of ethnic diversity (genetically if no culturally or linguistically).

One study (can't find reference right now) found that a large proportion of the country is made up of magyarized slavs and germans (and despite what some say there has obviously been some mixing between them and the gypsy population