Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

@Barney

Who do you think should do that? How should that work?

The moment one gov leader makes moves to restrain that wealth the holder of said wealth just moves to another country....and takes his industry, his patents, his tech with him. Leaving only unemployed and poorer people behind.

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

Thing is....when has to take the wealth from the rich EVER made the world better?

We have now some experience with that vision...it never ended well. Maybe it's time to accept that people, economies don't work that way!

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


There is alot of truth innit!


Frankly I think he doesn't know much about that....and how could he, a south african inventor and developer come tech mogul....

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

.....that brings me back to my absolutely unnecessary lament earlier....the east german dictatorship from '49 to '89 was very nationalistic....we were big on flag-waving and glorifying hymn, adoring poetry and everything, after all there war nothing else to keep the people together, also something nobody seemingly took/takes offence with, surely didn't put it into one direct line with the Holocaust and the Death Camps, I guess.

But maybe one reason why the AfD finds it more easier in the eastern half of the country, today.

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

I always wondered about that.....it's nothing wrong with "never forgetting", but most people seem only be concerned with our history till '45....totally "forgetting" our history which ended '89.

All that "never again" still happened nearly as a true copy (without the death camps mind you) in one half of the country for decades afterwards, only then called "socialism". All that one-party-dictatorship with the military parades, the kids in uniform and streamlined one-opinion-media, with a populace 99% pro-gov (or else!)...quietly, disturbingly ignored!

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [120]

Trump was the start....now all depends if and how he "delivers". Is he successful than his allies in Europe can and will build on that, the world is watching!

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [120]

*nods*

And that most leftists don't acknowledge the fact that their vision and ideals helps mainly the big rich capital and their firms supports your judgement that they are just not very bright! *shrugs*

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [120]


Think back to '89.....the end of "history"! For decades highly guarded borders fell and people were able to move again....open borders were seen widely as a good thing, meaning freedom!

The other big part was that the economies internationalized....wandering worker masses meant less production costs because of lower salaries....for a few decades lotsa people profited from open borders and open economies, from unified countries....nobody thought that would ever change, but change it did!

The age of globalization is now ending, the economies are about to be re-nationalized....hence the anti-immigration movements are winning....at the end will be re-build borders.

But you can't say that only leftist morons were for open borders....quite the contrary....they did build an unholy alliance with the great capital, the big firms, their sworn enemy, to keep the borders open and the cheapest workforce coming. I doubt they have accepted and acknowledged that fact till now actually....

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [120]

....frankly IMHO the AfD is incredible successful from the opposition bank right now! There is no need to become part of the gov.

The "old" parties can't do to much differently than the AfD demands, knowing the majority of the people is behind her (in the migration question).....tricky situation for her enemies and a truly sweet spot for Weidel, Höcke and Co!

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [120]


Does that mean we won in the end??? Heh:) 😎

USA, Canada / Will Americans flee from the US to Poland? [186]

Jon is okay.....and anyhow, talking with myself and likeminded gets boring quickly! :)

USA, Canada / Will Americans flee from the US to Poland? [186]


Just waving to a crowd can easily end up in such a "salute".....it's a danger for every politician.....there are photos!


Musk a Nazi???? Wot???

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  Politicians making the salute....
  

USA, Canada / Will Americans flee from the US to Poland? [186]

.....at least most people tend to forget to avoid using that special form regularly....

Then there are those who use that purposely, but usually people know that when they do!

USA, Canada / Will Americans flee from the US to Poland? [186]


Look at that!

x.com/inesschwerdtner/status/1881457393231679601

It seems everybody and his grandmom makes the "Hitler-Salute" now and then.....in Germany Musk isn't the first accused of being a Nazi, look at the photos....Lauterbach (SPD) and Habeck (Die Grünen) between them....totally normal quite leftist german politicians...maybe it is time to end that witch hunt now!

USA, Canada / Will Americans flee from the US to Poland? [186]

His son has become huge....woah! :)

*just watching the roundups*

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [530]


Banning media and parties, censoring opinions, won't regain them any support......that way lays the defeat....I thought after '89 that had become basic knowledge!

News / Will Poland help defend Greenland against US Imperialism [333]

Interesting point of view:


spiegel.de/ausland/groenland-wieso-frauen-gegen-ihren-willen-spiralen-eingesetzt-wurden-a-5f93eb04-4c1c-4cf0-899b-edf5d23511f3


It seems the whole story isn't that black and white...Trump bad, Danes good....not at all! If the Danes lose Greenland they will have only themselves to blame....

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]


...now that would be more for her adversaries. But probably it wouldn't make much sense anymore...as Weidel is rising in all popularity polls, even as she has no chance in hell of the chancellorship.


...it stays in the mind, yeah! :)

Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [462]

Yeah....true too.....if Netanjahu were smart(er) he would try his hardest to build something out of the Westbank...for both sides. Abbas would keep further the Hamas fanatics in check and he would keep the orthodox radical Jews in check...showing that something more is possible....that would be a big middle finger to the nutters on all sides.

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]

The AfD have a new war cry:

"Alice for Germany".....sounds like "Alles für Deutschland"...sorry, I find that funny! :)

Can't help it...tough woman....she rules a real-boys party thoroughly....she seems to have more balls than many men!

Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [462]

I find it interesting that in the Westbank, where the Fatah reigns, there is peace....and in Gaza, where the Hamas rules, there is war and destruction....and yes, there is only one winner, Iran!

I guess that Abbas risks his life saying all that, puttting the blame where it belongs....

But then...even Arafat has come a long way, from a blood dripping terrorist to the handshake with Rabin in Oslo in 1993.

Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [462]

Na sowas....still a few brain cells left!


zeit.de/politik/ausland/2023-12/news-israel-gaza-krieg-live

I guess there would be peace possible with such a non-radical on the other side....

Off-Topic / I am a polish communist. [83]


Immigration (against non-european refugees without value for the german economy).....

Economy (neo-liberal meaning less social gifts for everybody and their non-german grandmom)....

EU (against that culture leftists gender/wokist pressure from Brussels but pro the former economical-only union EWG / the use of the Euro is debatable)....

The first three main points out of my head....there are more though!


....I never heard of that one....do you have a link?

Here the Manifesto of the AfD in English:

afd.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/2017-04-12_afd-grundsatzprogramm-englisch_web.pdf

Off-Topic / I am a polish communist. [83]

She, Wagenknecht, has to rethink her party though.....after the first enthusiasm she is losing at every poll and the numbers go back to the AfD.

It seems she-only isn't enough to keep the interest....her BSW must deliver more!

Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [462]

The ICC isn't what it once was, neither is the UN....probably the polish (and the german) govs take that into account!

News / Will Poland help defend Greenland against US Imperialism [333]


I mentioned greenlandic possible stupidity though....

Not selling your assets AND wanting independence from your lone supporter, who secures your survival, is not a viable political opinion with any future!

They need to have a master who pays for them....and/or re-start selling their ressources to pay for themselves, there is no other way, hence my dismissal.

News / Will Poland help defend Greenland against US Imperialism [333]

The article points it out....since Greenland stopped extraction and selling of it's natural oil and gas reserves it nearly fully (to 95%) relies on support from Denmark to survive.

...This has kept Greenland's economy reliant on fishing, which accounts for over 95% of exports, and annual subsidies from Denmark, which cover roughly half of the public budget. In total, Denmark spends just under $1 billion each year on Greenland, or $17,500 for each of its 57,000 residents.....

But then that:


So yeah....either the Greenlanders are that stupid or they are that short sighted....they have to have a "master"....if they no longer want Denmark, they will have to chose someone else....they can't survive on their own like this.

....A majority of Greenland's inhabitants support independence, but they are divided over the timing and potential impact on living standards.

Greenlandic politicians have since 2019 repeatedly said they are interested in strengthening cooperation and trade with the United States.....

I really don't see an USian invasion as in "hostile territory"....that just won't be necessary!

News / Will Poland help defend Greenland against US Imperialism [333]

PS:

....Decades ago, the U.S. under then-President Harry Truman sought to buy the island as a strategic asset during the Cold War for $100 million in gold, but Copenhagen declined to sell.....

Back then the Greenlanders themselves had no say innit, still being a full danish colony, that might be different this time....

News / Will Poland help defend Greenland against US Imperialism [333]


An interesting article about the backstory of that:

reuters.com/world/why-does-trump-want-greenland-could-he-get-it-2025-01-08/

The thing seems to be that the few thousand Greenlanders want to become independent from Danmark, but without all that danish support they will need someone else to pay for them...they might want to join the US peacefully!

....While Greenlanders want independence, they are well aware of their economic reliance on Denmark. One option could be to form a so-called "free association" with the United States that would replace Danish subsidies with U.S. support and protection in return for military rights, similar to the status of Pacific island nations Marshall Islands, Micronesia and Palau.....

.... When asked about Trump's renewed interest this week, Frederiksen said: "We need very close cooperation with the Americans."
She added: "On the other hand, I would like to encourage everyone to respect that the Greenlanders are a people, it is their country, and only Greenland can determine and define Greenland's future."....

I don't see US troops invading Greenland....but alone the strategic position and the undoubtful rich natural resources, some of them very rare, make Greenland a valuable morsel....I personally see Trump just having set a big heap to show the interest of the US....nothing more, nothing less.

News / Will Poland help defend Greenland against US Imperialism [333]


Yeah....and contrary to the usual politics business, he is willing to to use them....both! :)