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10 Apr 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Isn't it pssbl that it was just another airplane crash as they happen frequently?

Especially considering the conditions that they tried to land in. I'd be browsing through Seanus's conspiracy sites if the plane spontaneously exploded in midair on a cloudless day. But crashing after the fourth attempt at landing in fog at an airport with no ILS... It's time to start exploring why the decision was made to land there and what safeguards can be put into place so that it never happens again.

So apparently in 2008, Kaczynski tried to land in Tblisi during the Russian invasion. The captain refused to land due to the security situation, and diverted to Azerbaijan. He is no longer flying for the air force and was the target of prosecution.

The landing that was attempted was illegal, that much is sure. There were 3 go arounds prior to the crash, we know that too. ATC advised diverting to Minsk or Moscow according to the Russians. It will be interesting to hear what the CVR has to say. Unfortunately, it sounds like the crew was under immense pressure (direct or indirect) to put the plane on the ground.

Sad tragedy.

Apparently an IL-76 based in Smolensk attempted two approaches and diverted to Moscow. There is also no approach lighting at the airport.
convex   
10 Apr 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Just for the conspiracy minded among us....

Weather reports at 08:00 CET indicated a temperature at Smolensk of 1°C, Dew Point:1°C, wind from 140 degrees at 6 knots, Pressure: 1026 hPa, heavy fog.

The weather right now is still hard IFR

Flight Rule: IFR ()
Wind Speed: 7.8 kts.
Wind Dir: 90° (East)
Ceiling: 210 m
convex   
7 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

Yupp, but they didn't know :/

The thing that gets me is that after watching Czechoslovakia get completely shafted by the French, that any of her allies might still have faith in her is odd.

Poland and Czechoslovakia would have made a nice bulwark against Germany.
convex   
7 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

That's because Britain declared war on Nazi Germany
Having pressure from two allies isn't quite funny (the national prestige was on board, oh No! Sacreblé! Zhe Islanders are attacking zhe Germans! We shall also "Do Dhat" :)

Just the reference early to Czechoslovakia who had a military alliance with France and the Soviet Union.

After that, did Poland really expect anything from France?
convex   
6 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

I think that the French middle finger was big enough that any discussion about France possibly joining us can be dropped, they were ready to wave the flag and thats it.

You're lucky, at least the French acted on their alliance when Poland was attacked.
convex   
6 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

Good job, thanks for the help! How delusional is that?

To sum things up

1.Poland and Czechoslovakia had some back and forth conflicts over the region.
2.An agreement was reached in 1925 by both sides.
3.Poland invaded and annexed land with the Nazis after the Munich agreement.

I didn't see the part in there where Benes sent a thank you card.

Do you have any kind of credible reference that Czechoslovak leadership called up Poland and offered up the territory? We won't fight because your accomplices the Nazis are raping our country is different than offering it up.

Considering that Czechoslovakia had a mutal defense pact with France and the Soviet Union, it's a shame that those countries didn't aid their allies and attack the Nazis, Poles, and Hungarians.
convex   
6 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

I think you are confusing everything here, Harry (as you usually do). It was Czechoslovakia
who invaded Poland - not the other way around. They attacked and occupied ethnically
Polish lands.

Umm, Poland and Czechoslovakia came to an agreement in 1925 on the borders, and then Poland reneged and attacked Czechoslovakia with the Nazis.

What Poland did helped the Nazis justify the partition (as did the actions of the Hungarians).
convex   
6 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

I wonder about the french though....

France was in the war? :)

If British, US, and French soldiers have a problem with marching in front of a portrait of Stalin, maybe they shouldn't have allied with him.
convex   
6 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

I still like to think that Poland could successfully defend itself against a country like Germany. I think the will to fight would be much stronger for a Pole than a Gerrie.

Uh, sure. You could probably save quite a bit of money by just sitting around and willing away all of your problems. It's not a boxing match, it's who's got the nicer car. Currently Germany has the nicer car, and more of them...(And they're pretty good drivers).

So does anyone know how the hell Germany was able acquire such a modern army once again?

Not big on history eh? I'll give you a hint, someone had to take the brunt of a Warsaw Pact armor attack.
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

german military is 100% state of the art quality

I think battlefield control wise, absolutely. Quite a bit of the hardware is dated though. Have the PT-91s ever been deployed in combat? How are they against the Leopards?

Poland Vs Afghanistan or Germany Vs Afghanistan? How long do you think either of those 2 battles would last?

In war, or nation building? It all depends on what the objectives are.

The difference in quality of an individual soldier on every level (between Poland and Russia) is huge

You've got it, and the soldiers that fought in Georgia were professional soldiers, not conscripts.

Russians on the other hands had problems even marching into Georgia in an orderly manner.

Russian C&C was apparently severely lacking, but they still got the job done relatively quickly. Apparently the kit was the least of their problems.
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

In West, if you dont have money, you creep and they dont take even to hospitals and you die.

In Turkmenistan you don't have hospitals, and no money. You just die. You hear about people dying in Europe all the time because hospitals reject them.

You arent looking at yourselves into the mirror, you are critisizing others how ugly they are, etc.

Uh, you have serious mental problems if you can't see that Turkmenistan is a brutal unforgiving hellhole of a country.
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Saying, but, getting nothing. If you try to get, you are kicked out of company or out of life in the West.

Getting nothing is better than getting tossed in jail and having all your belongings taken from you by your friendly local government authorities.
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Ask your all politicians. Why do they tell so much lie and give up their words during elections?

Dunno, at least we have the option of saying "hey, you're stealing from us!" without being thrown in jail. Turkmen don't have that option. They have to take it.
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Yes my suggestion is exactly the same as before when North Korea was held up as a great model. Just go experience it for a while (just don't complain about it when you get there! seriously, you'll get thrown in the klink).
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

You are critizising Turkmenistan, a small country open to games of Russia, West, etc

Turkmenistan, which by all means should be a ridiculously rich country, does a worse job at keeping its people alive than Western governments.

At least in the West we get a chance to get the things that we want and need, as opposed to the situation in most dictatorships where the people are at the whims of the government to either bless them or let them suffer. I'll take free choice, thanks.
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

being against the free energy, free hospital, etc as an ordinary folk like you can be considered as idiot fool only..

They closed all the hospitals in the country side, they're not investing in infrastructure to actually get the free energy to their people, and they're taking away people's pensions. It's a nightmare down there. And a huge shame considering how resource rich the country is.

Russia is trader only

You're right here. Gazprom is a middle man. Sell off the Turkmen gas and then sell the Russian gas once supplies get tight. Smart.
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Cool...you will get rich quickly! ;)

The reserves would be enough to supply the EU for a little over 2 years. I think it has to do more with energy security.

Poland should be a country like Turkmenistan, with free energy, free electric, free hospitals, etc.

Wow, that's a huge stack of sh*t there. Free energy and free electricity (for certain neighborhoods in Ashgabat), free hospitals (in the capital, they closed the ones in the country side remember?), good pensions (oh, wait, those were massively cut just recently). Yes, Poland should be like the Turkmenistan. A (reported) infant mortality rate close to 5%. A country where a handful of people control all the resources. Sounds wonderful.
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

Germany would roll over Poland quite fast.

I think you underestimate the Russians...maybe even overestimate the Germans. Spot on with Belarus and the Ukraine.

Poland has to rely on a strong partner for defense, she's worried about the two behemoths, but if an open conflict should happen, I'm guessing the ICBMs will be flying, so it's fairly moot. The current strategy consists of establishing themselves as a core NATO partner and hoping that the alliance holds up if sh*t hits the fan. It would be crazy for Poland to try to keep up with the huge neighbors. Being able to deal with non NATO neighbors is enough, the money should go into increasing Polish economic competitiveness.
convex   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

The Nord Stream line circumventing Poland to Germany shows the E.U's weakness, in my opinion.
Are we a European Union or still stuck in our internal conflicts?

Nord Stream circumventing Poland = cheaper gas.
convex   
4 Apr 2010
History / Royal Family still in Poland? [79]

We had direct democracy not indirect through parliament like it is today.But ancient Greeks had high IQ.Imagine that every citizen was a judge for one year.Is it today sth like that possible?Are many people able to be judges?Anyway.
But then came the Romans we were defeated and they brought their barbaric ways.

Direct democracy is great as long as there are ground rules. Avoiding mob rule is a good thing...