UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]


Yeah

*blushes*


You wouldn't believe it if I told you ;p

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]


What gives you that idea?

I honestly haven't heard of any such organ harvesting and if I google it with Poland nothing comes up but I generally don't know anything about this subject.

What makes you say it is rampant?

It is more probably that he drank too much and woke up in a drunk tank.

Real Estate / Apartments too expensive for Poles living in Poland [54]

Milky you are in Ireland which has the second highest minimum wage in the EU, after Luxembourg.

And has one of the most expensive property markets in the world



Nope the minimum wage for 2004 after tax was 602,77 per month, divided by 4 (to get week divided), by 40 to get hour and you are left with 3.76 PLN

minimum wage 2010 is 984,15 per month (do the same math) 6.15 per hour.

Minimum Wage
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C5%82aca_minimalna

Real Estate / Apartments too expensive for Poles living in Poland [54]


They are still alive, for the most part as it was only 20 years ago.



The amount of people who live with their family, here in Poland, is much bigger than many other European countries.
The sheer size of the houses here tells you that they play "The Generation Game" whereby 4/5 generations of a Polish family live together.


Hand outs from who or what?
The government doesn't have any form of handouts that you could live on well if you could get a job and family's are usually on a tight enough budget.

Of course families support themselves here but I would not call them handouts.


I would change it to "New apartments in the centre of cities too expensive for most Poles yet there are alternatives in the suburbs where housing is the same price as a small flat in the centre and with all the new roads it is easier than ever to get into town".

However I will concede that this title would be a little too long :)

Real Estate / Apartments too expensive for Poles living in Poland [54]

I believe you have misinterpreted the information but the artical is so badly written I have trouble myself fully understanding it.
I think the first problem is it just pushes figures and doesn't compare them to anything else.


It is not 80% of Polish people that are going to buy real estate.
From the article it is 80% of people that wanted to buy in the first place.


I don't think prises will substantially rise or fall.

I think the article itself is misleading or just not well written:


20% who were going to buy didn't


Now it is 40%


23% plus 19% plus 14% is 56%

Add them all together and you get 116%

It could be saying that of the 20% that did not buy 40% of those did not buy because of W, 23% because of X, 19% because of Y and 14 % because of Z.

Which still only makes up only 96%, if it said that 4% is due to other reasons fine but it doesn't.

Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [110]


I think that is why they call it a "race" :)

Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [110]


I am sure the British National Party has not got that much growth in Poland right now ;)


I did, remember? you even quoted me on it.


It has been mentioned several times on this thread that famous rich people buy second hand clothes.
I am not familiar with this practice but then again I don't know many famous people.

Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [110]



You are confusing growth with a strong economy.
Poland is getting stronger but it is still quite poor in comparison to many countries like France Germany and England.

Many people here do not have much money and buy from farmer's markets and second hand clothes shops.

Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [110]


Hahahaha.


Or if you read the thread you might find we can debate and talk about our different view points.
I think not discussing issues offers no form of education or insight at all.

Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [110]

I don't think so for many people in the context of this thread.

Here is a man who thinks that buying new clothes means he is ''free'' and that people who buy second hand clothes are ''slaves''.

This to me is a form of mental slavery and I do not think there is much worse slavery than mental slavery. (no offence Tit, like your opinion I have mine and on this topic we do not agree).

I am not saying that money is not important, for we have given it that but I do not think you are "free" just because you have it.

Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [110]


In fairness to this whole topic, we are blasted with commercials for a lot of our waking lives, since we were kids.
It has turned many people in to magpies, in the sense they like bright and shiny things.

Perhaps I am saying blame society not the individual, our critical thinking has been stripped to a certain extent and replaced with consumer culture.

Many citizens of developed countries buy new things and what they buy are designed to break so that people can go out and buy more, whole industries and economies are built on this strategy.

Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. (Oscar Wilde)

Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [110]


Ever spell that word backwards?
The result is very interesting :

''Evian'' backwards is ''naive'':

1. having or showing unaffected simplicity of nature or absence of artificiality; unsophisticated; ingenuous.

Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [110]

I was at a meeting around a big oak table.
Not everyone had arrived so we were waiting.
One of the men took off his watch and put it on the table boasting that his watch was gold plated, had diamonds encrusted at each hour and was worth 10,000 euro.

Another guy from the other side of the table asked, "what time is it?".
"It is now exactly 3:14" the first man proudly bellowed out.
The other man said "that's strange because my watch cost 50 Euro and it says the exact same time".

Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [110]


I think it is strange to equivalate consumerism with freedom and people who obviously can't afford new clothes with slavery.
It seems like you are saying you pay for your freedom with money.

Pieces of cloth sown together, when properly washed, are just pieces of cloth sown together.

So to answer your question
Why so many Poles use second hands clothes?
Lack of money.

Travel / Poland wildlife and similar wild life where you live. [243]

I have been seeing lots of pheasant recently.

Pheasant in Polish is 'Bażant'.

There is a very good player that I have not seen before on Wiki, it plays a recording of the sound the bird makes, Common Pheasant.

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Love / How do Polish boys feel about foreign girls? [163]


So what is a typical D4 girl like?
And how is that you know nothing of traditional Irish women?
Nothing to do with stupidity just experience honest.


what percentage???


You'll figure it out someday :)


And what did I do?


It is true you can be very nice and even likeable at times.

Love / How do Polish boys feel about foreign girls? [163]


Unless he is an aboriginal Australian.

And just out of curiosity are the prisoners sent long ago there also meant to thank you?


Just because you have no idea what he means does not make his post any less.
He compared them to D4, yet another thing you probably know nothing of.


I agree.

Oh Shelly :) I will always remember your cold venomous nonwlecome when I first joined here, seems like only yesterday :)

History / remember, forget, forgive, blame ... Holocaust Memorial Day in Poland [229]


Do you believe this BB?

History / remember, forget, forgive, blame ... Holocaust Memorial Day in Poland [229]


I can't imagine anything better than that.

(I too am at fault for the mistake convex, I thought you were saying something else also)

History / remember, forget, forgive, blame ... Holocaust Memorial Day in Poland [229]


I am not going to start an argument with you but watching T.V. and reading newspapers is very different from experiencing the holocaust.


I didn't experience it. More deaths in Congo than any other conflict post-WWII: survey..

History / remember, forget, forgive, blame ... Holocaust Memorial Day in Poland [229]


Okay, I'll ask.

How did you experience the holocaust?

History / remember, forget, forgive, blame ... Holocaust Memorial Day in Poland [229]

remember, forget, forgive, blame ... Holocaust Memorial Day

Rest in peace.

So much suffering, so much pain so much death.
I hope none of us ever experience anything even remotely like this.

Life / Recycling and the barter system in Poland [5]


The can't run a landline so by law they have to pay me.
Actually they just offered me a radio line, which I don't want but it stopped them from paying me any more.


In London they are very good at that, people make a living off collecting, tables sofas TVs etc...

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

We probably all lie to our selves about what has happened and not just as a country but as individuals but we are not talking about that, are we?

We want to look at the great things our countries have done and say "Yes, I am a part of that!" and ignore the negatives, cover them in myth or hide them, it only takes your little finger to block out the sun.


Well lets bring it home a bit, Norwegians tried to wipe out the indigenous Sami culture.

Ireland has it's share of wrong doings also but we won't talk about those ;)

My point is not to offend, my point is that perhaps many people need these myths to feel good about themselves because most countries at some point through their historys are guilty of some wrong doings and we do not want to see ourselves as guilty.

For example did the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth simply expand and form this huge empire.
Were the territories that became part of this Empire willing or were they taken by force?
I have only heard and seen how great it was, surely armies were sent out to kick ass?
I am not talking about Lithuanian and Polish agreement but the other lands they conquered.

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]



That's not true.
Modern day Caucasian Americans are descendents of Europeans. I am sure you know this.
And we are talking about the killing of native Americans, which Europeans/Americans did do.


Ah, I see now, you are just a dick, ah well.

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

I think this one is a modern day myth Irish welcome on Polish building sites ?.
It just makes no logical sense, why would Polish people put up a sign, in English, in Poland?
Irish people have not come here to look for jobs on a building site.

This myth has been added to, like a game of Chinese whispers.
I was told by a taxi man in Ireland that 2000 Poles walked off site in Poland because an Irish man walked on. Apart from having an over inflated opinion about himself, it is just pure lies, that just wouldn't happen.

But where I find the interest is how willing people are to believe it. I even thought it could have been true myself but this shows more about how we feel than what actually happened.

Ireland was a poor country (it certainly did not benefit from the British Empire) and it became rich over night.
Money became the only conversation people had any more, greed unseen before to this extent, had come in full swing.
Polish people were working hard and some Irish people were making a lot of money from it.

This myth has the sentiment that a Pole went to Ireland worked his butt off, got stroked by the developer and told an Irish person to get off site because he was treated badly.

Irish people automatically sympathise with this mythical Polish person, it kinda does relate to the British Empire.

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


You are going to have to educate me here, what are you talking about?

It is like saying slaves benefited from slavery.

The strange thing about your and Barney's argument here is that at the time, you were Europeans.
Americans/Europeans one and the same in this context.

Travel / Jazz in Poland [27]


The original post was from years ago.

Life / Poles are not racist [873]


Some people did and do lie.


Is that what happened to you or did some guy take your woman because you aren't man enough? :)

Life / Poles are not racist [873]


I was just messing but now that you mention it there is something about you being Polish and living in Norway that used to be a huge problem not so long ago.

When Poland was communist and commies were seen as a treat to our cultural values, freedom and lives.


Well who imports a million people for starters?


North Korea have a terrible immigration policy, do they have racism?