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Go back 20 years and about 30% of the inmates in Irish prisons were foreign nationals - and a lot of them were Poles! Now it's about 15%. Foreigners are only slightly over-represented in the prison population.

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FAKE NEWS - no checkpoints were set up in Leitrim by locals.

A spokesperson for "concerned citizens" in Dromahair, Co Leitrim has denied reports of road blocks being established on Friday to prevent rumoured asylum seekers from arriving.

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@Crnogorac3

Thank you for demonstrating once again what a big, thick, ignorant gobshite you are :))

You're actually an example of the 'foreign scum' that Ireland needs to beware of - let me tell you that no Serbian poxbottle will ever destabilize Ireland so carry on whistling into the wind.


I've told you before, in Ireland suspects are not named by the Garda Síochána until they are charged with a criminal offence. The man is still in hospital but his condition is improving and the guards should be able to formally charge him in due course.

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Santa's elves aren't green - they wear green.

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Yes it does but with a kind of stereotypical, we love spuds and leprechauns vibe :)

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Here's what he said:

"I strongly believe that this is not the face of Ireland. This is just some criminals looting the shops. I don't think they follow any ideological purpose. They come to the streets and just rob. They should get punishment.

"Not even an animal does these kind of thing. It is very shameful and they should get public punishment.

"I'd like to see them shot in the head or bring the public in and beat them until they die."

He's pretty much on the same line as our Minister for Justice who called the rioters scumbags and thugs which is precisely what they are.

However his comments, while absolutely understandable, are not at all helpful. We don't need more rabble rousing and hysteria.


STOP SPREADING UNVERIFIED INFORMATION

Police have had to put special security in place for Algerian man wrongly identified as suspect for Parnell Square stabbings

"Justice Minister confirms gardaí "engaged" with Gript and urges people to "take responsibility for content shared" online"

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Don't know why all this stuff about Ireland is in a thread about immigrants in Poland. There was a time when Mods swept everything into the bin of Random. Now the only moderating going on is basic housekeeping when the cess pit of Random is emptied periodically.

Anyway, let's make hay while the sun shines because it's my feeling that PF won't be here much longer. It's an aging beast. The owner seems to have lost interest in his pet and unless it's generating a substantial income for him, what incentive does he have to keep it going?


Calm down. We have regulations in Ireland regarding coverage of cases before formal charges have been made and then again when they come before the courts so as not to prejudice the jury or the defence.

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She's up in the North of Ireland. And it was a few hundred scrotes looting and thieving.

You know sod all about Ireland. Never even set foot in the place.

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Let me finish the sentence for you:
to a country with a 97% white population :) Shocking, isn't it?


Actually we've been in the EU more than 50 years. You're such an expert on Ireland :))

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Nothing sinister. It's just that he can be a bit 'Oirish'. The accent for example. He lays it on a bit. Listen to the difference between him and his brother Luka Bloom. Bloom sounds exactly as you'd expect for a lad who went to Newbridge College (the same fee-paying school where Christy went).

'Once upon a time, there was
Irish ways and Irish laws
Villages of Irish blood
Waking to the morning
Then the Vikings came along
Turned us up and turned us down
But they could not turn us back
We are a river flowing'

I'm writing from memory there :) I loved that song when I was a teenager. Nice stuff he's written and it speaks to the Irish soul, the melancholy that's within us as a people but Christy started out at a time when there was still war in Northern Ireland and times have moved on. We remember but we don't want to dwell on past suffering and injustice. Christy does have a tendency to wallow in it and be a bit like De Valera in romanticizsng Ireland too much.

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You gave me the option of past tense so I don't know what you're banging on about.


Been over to politics.ie yet? Here's a quote from a discussion there - it struck me that they could be talking about you :) you might need to look up what a poltroon is. We have great terms of abuse in Ireland.

"now after years of mealy-mouthed dissembling he's gone Full Fascist and wants to rip down all democratic structures and the rule of law and replace it with open dictatorship. There is no possible way to "play nice" with complete nutters, the only thing to do is tell them to sit down and STFU. There is no possible way to rationally convince someone as divorced from reality as that poltroon that their insane views are wrong. This is the kind of person that in olden times would send in weekly letters to the local newspaper....in red crayon..."

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No. You get an envelope popped through the letterbox with 'Christmas Dues' written on it and maybe a little calendar or Christmas card inside. You're supposed to put some contribution in it for the parish funds and but not everybody bothers. They just give more in the collection plate on Christmas Day.

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Because ............ you didn't look up gombeen man obviously. But as I say, Charlie Haughey wasn't a gombeen man - but he was an inveterate liar.

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You must be delighted to see that the new government has a majority of female ministers.


And you support a man who wants to see child pornography made legal.

You're quite the little liberal, left-wing radical, aren't you :)


Buraks, Paw. As if we ever thought otherwise, but good to see it proven beyond doubt. Ungracious in power and even less gracious in defeat.

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You asked for names. I gave you three. Now bog off.

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Christy Moore lays it on with a trowel for a very specific audience.

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Depends on what you mean by trust. Ireland has had quite a few slippery customers as Taoiseach but they're mostly of the 'gombeen man' variety. You can look that up for your homework. There's plenty I didn't like, Charlie Haughey, Albert Reynolds, Bertie Ahern but Charlie wasn't of the gombeen variety. You can look him up as well. A significant figure in modern Irish history along with Garret Fitzgerald whom I DID like; he was a man of great integrity.

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Fake news, lies and old cobblers. Get up the yard!


Says some aul beardy bollocks.

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There's a big difference between literature/quality journalism and the type of dangerous drivel flooding the world nowadays. But I think that silencing people is not an ideal way forward. We've reached a point where we need to address this issue in schools. Teens need to be educated about how to determine whether an information source is credible.


"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. "

@Barney, thanks for the heads up :)

@Maf, I'm sure the government collects that data but as we have only a tiny percentage of non-white migrants (and I'm assuming that's who you mean) and many of them have been in Ireland for years, I'm not sure it's quite the issue you imagine. Most of our idle scroungers are Irish.


In Serbia?

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Who is this English guy?? another 'expert' on Ireland......

@ Maf will get back to you later. In a bit of a rush now?

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Indeed they don't. Irish people for the most part are moderate in their views.

But we live in a different world nowadays. There are people in the world like Crnogorac3 on this very forum who are attempting to get inside the heads of younger people who lack the judgement and experience to recognize propaganda when they hear it - a propaganda aimed at undermining and dividing civilised countries. We have to do something about that.

Irish people will still be able to express their views publicly but people with sinister motives and agendas hopefully won't have so much of a platform.

Let's just wait and see how it unfolds.

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Don't you pay any income tax in Serbia? That would explain why the country is on its arse.


What? Irish people think Serbia takes too many refugees?? I didn't know we were so fascinated by Serbian affairs. But then I suppose it's understandable seeing as you're so concerned about ours.


And of course, the Brits are experts on Ireland, aren't they? As witnessed by their superb handling of Northern Ireland over the years.


Dangerous words to speak from the safety of your second-hand gaming chair in Serbia. You won't incite civil war in Ireland that easily.

@Maf, who is portraying the riots as race related? Certainly not any credible source in Ireland, or any normal Irish people, of whom, thankfully the population is largely composed.

It's hard to explain but look, I know Dublin and its people like the back of my hand. I grew up there. I've lived there most of my life. I taught in the inner city. I may well have taught some of those who were doing the rioting the other night! I know the kids, the parents, the grandparents, the whole vibe. I know the nuances right down to the profile of each different block of flats. Iveagh Trust buildings - largely decent people. Oliver Bond - enter at your peril. St Theresa's Gardens - ditto etc. etc.

There are some very good people living in inner city Dublin but I've seen how the city has changed over the decades and the growth of a bone idle welfare class with a lifestyle ranging from petty crime and vandalism to serious assault and drug related crimes. Believe me, they have ZERO interest in politics, zero civic spirit, zero to offer or contribute.

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Yes - and Irish people don't like him on the whole. He's considered an embarrassment. His fan base is composed of exactly the type who ran amok in the city the other night.


That makes sense.

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A bunch of inner city Dublin skangers used a tragedy as an excuse to rampage through the streets, terrorizing the general public while looting and stealing all they could get their filthy, little thieving hands on.

"Staff and customers of the Arnotts department store that was looted during Thursday's riots in Dublin have been left "shaken", according to its chief executive Donald McDonald, who added that the perpetrators should be ashamed of their actions."

"Breaking into Arnott's and stealing clothing is not an act of political statement- it's criminality." said Minister for Public Expenditure, Paschal O'Donohoe

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Ireland has always been a centrist country with very little difference between the main political parties.

But you don't vote for a party in Ireland. Your ballot paper has a list of all the candidates in your constituency and you mark them in order of preference by numbering them eg. 1 for your first choice, 2 for your second and so on, as many or as few as you want. If your first choice doesn't get enough votes to be elected your vote is transferred to your second choice. If he gets enough votes at the first count, the surplus votes are transferred to your second choice.

We're the only country in the EU apart from Malta which has this system. It's called single transferrable vote proportional representation (STV).


Can't see Ireland in any way following the US model in anything to do with politics and justice.

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Now, now, you sound like Oliver Cromwell. I'll speak my language wherever I want to and anyway I didn't use any Irish, so what are you on about?


The Irish who went to Australia either through transportation or as free settlers generally did well for themselves, partly because they were literate. At one time in the 19th century nearly the entire police force of Victoria was Irish!


Why not, indeed.

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Maybe for Irish Americans - not very relevant to Irish people at this point in our history.

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Joke's on you - this guy was a lovely example of our very own home-grown scum. Yeah, that's right, he was a pasty-faced little Irish toe-rag.


Because the guy was a nutter as opposed to a 'criminal'. Ireland has a chronic shortage of care facilities and resources for the mentally ill. But even if he had been a criminal, he would still probably got off with a suspended sentence or similar because the Irish courts are notoriously lenient on offenders. That's one of the reasons we have a problem with gangs of local Dublin scum-bags roaming the streets of the inner city, literally giving the Gardai the finger.

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Oh God yes, I'd forgotten about them. We have potato cakes down south and I've seen soda farls for sale in packs but they wouldn't be as good as the freshly made ones.


That reminds me of some public figure years ago, who was asked about something to do with planning permission in area where there was a fairy tree or something. He replied that he didn't believe in fairies 'even if they do exist' :) I think a lot of Irish people, particularly from down the country, would be very reluctant to deny their existence outright.

This is a nice bit about the Banshee.

youtube.com/watch?v=O1-Ys65pq8I

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Well now Novi, being Irish, I know the problems my country faces better than anyone on this forum. The main problems in Ireland have nothing to do with migrant crime. We have no large migrant groups causing mayhem. There simply isn't a history of it.

What we do have, is a MAJOR problem with scumbags in the inner city of Dublin. There is a particular issue with teenagers committing violent crimes, assaults etc. on innocent passers by at any hour of the day. We then have their extended families of fathers, uncles etc. many of whom are involved in organized crime and drug dealing. This is Ireland's real problem. It's never been addressed and people are becoming increasingly fed up of it.

Those are actually the ones who did the rioting the other night. We have lots of names for them: scrotes, scumbags, skangers, gurriers. Take your pick. They are the problem we need to solve.