Genealogy / Displaced Persons Camp / Work camp and concentration camp difference [86]

I know an older Jewish woman, easily in her late sixties, early-seventies by this time, who was born in Celle, Germany not far from Lueneburg in the North and grew up until the age of five or so in a Displaced Persons Camp (Sammellager fuer Fluechtlinge). She then came to the States, speaks no German whatsoever, and talks like a native New Yorker.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

While we're mentioning patriotic song, you forgot the most iconic battle "hymn" of the Jewish Resistance throughout Poland: 'Zog nit keynmol dos du gehst de letzte weg' (Never say that this road ends for you)!

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

How, Joker?? By speaking mostly only in Arabic rather than learning German, lazier still, expecting that they can communicate with locals in their broken English?!

Come on, the Syrian migrants are surely not all "bad" people, they are becoming a drain though socially on German society, I don't care one hoot what Ms. Merkel says.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

We see the latter every day as part of our embarrassing national statistic...if you bother to read the Times:-)
Most news journals don't even bother to print the truth any longer for fear of being labled "fake news" by our
Idiot-in-Chief!

The Reagan Era scarcely "killed people off" in the manner of Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot or certain others of that ilk. As I said, the Anglo-Saxon way

is the more sinister, because the more sereptitious. Unlike the former three, it promises freedom: the freedom to starve on your own time, to go

hungry at will, to die off due to the distinterest of our government which won the Cold War, but lost the social peace. No more Cold War, no more need

to keep our people happy, since nobody's about to defect to Russia as in former times pre-'89.

The Cold War's over, is that great?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

This is the sad reality, true.

However, had the underpinnings of Christianity been as firmly in place as they should have, it would not have been necessary to desire
the eventual extermination of said Jews, despite the failures of many to assimilate!

And herein lies the crucial difference between the US and much of Europe; in the United States, we may not shoot you at sunrise and pile innumerable corpses one atop the other, tossing them into incinerators. We simply harrass people to death, depriving the deserving of medical attention etc.. Death by attrition rather than by firing squad. Neither a terribly nice option, and one which CAN be avoided.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Jews however, in particular German-speaking Jews, DID in point of fact desire a European homeland, above all, Germany!
One has only to read the rapturous peons to Germany written by the likes of the convert Heinrich Heine, not to mention, Rabbi Dr Leo Baeck,

leader of Germany's Jewish community before WWII:-)

They all desired nothing better than assimilation into the German culture. Hitler had different ideas.

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Thank you, Dirk!

We're finally back on the same home page. The only difference between nowadays vs. "the old days" is that today people hint at it more than back in former times.

Sixty or more years ago, it was commonly understood that the family priest/rabbi, the local minister to a loyal, contributing congregant of many years, a politician etc. was nearly always THE intermediary who brokered jobs for those who paid into the system.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Some solid connections sure won't hurt either:-)
Remember, it's not always what, but WHOM, you know!

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

We may not all be equal as people; we are ALL equal as human beings.
This is written in the Bible...if you people have ever bothered to read and understand it!

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Obviously nobody's perfect, "to err is human, to forgive divine" etc. ad infinitum...
Problem is that these days, folks don't even try, certainly not to the degree we once did, say fifty-odd years ago and before.
Mankind's lost the way, and BADLY!

Ought to have known we were heading for a social Armageddon when around the early '90's I remember reading a longish op-ed piece
in the NYT entitled "Sometimes, even G-d needs a vacation", wherein the pastor, the author of the article, remarked he was actually trying to
use whatever legal tactics he and his staff possibly could to discourage "problem parishioners" from bothering the church office on the
minister's "day off".

Hmmm, "minister's day off"?? Last time I consulted the Good Book, a clergyman's duty, bound by their calling, was to be there for whomever required

the requisite soul tending, a soldier in vestments, fighting the good fight against evil of a suffering humanity.

Recently, my spirit still stuck in more halcyon days, I attended the informal memorial of an elderly colleague who'd passed on and we were all gathered

in the Dean's office. I arrived a few minutes after people started gathering, saying, "I wish to extend my condolences on Dr. Luehrmann's untimely passing!", upon which

the priest in his robes seated near to me, looking rather dispeptic, blurts out "GLAD THE OLD FART'S DEAD!", to chuckles and quortles inside the anteroom.

Isn't that lovely.

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As far as having a good life, how in G-d's name can one truly enjoy such a life if it's built solely, or mostly, on the unhappiness/suffering of others?

The answer is one can't.

Never too late to repent for one's sins ON EARTH!

Love / How do guys from Poland flirt? [47]

Off (or perhaps on) topic, kelebeg. Are you perchance Hungarian by birth?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Now there's a rationalization for indifference on the part of the West if I've ever heard one! Can't you do better than that, Dirk?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Can you really believe any human group would masochistically prefer the nightmare of eternal isolation to the ideal of harmony and peaceful cohabitation?
Y'all must be either cracked or some type of political provocateurs!

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

I merely wish to set the record straight once and for all. Those who were victims came by that regrettable status honestly. Look up the meaning of the word and I trust you'll see what I mean.

The Jews didn't all wish to exclude themselves and live in hermetically sealed isolation. The Christians wanted that and set up laws that it be so.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

I see you're switching stuff around, making it seem as though the aggressor were in truth the victim instead of the victim as victim.

Were someone to get attacked who is able to defend themselves valiantly, bully for them. However, as I've often reiterated, one size doesn't fit all and why should the healthy six-footer with broad shoulders and a pair of biceps as big as ham hocks necessarily be deemed both "less" of a victim than another person 5ft. 4in. with a weak constitution and who doesn't pump iron every day, not to mention more worthy of being defended by virtue of his size and strength?

Most Jews were indeed more than wanting in physical exercise, having a poor diet and almost complete unfamiliarity with the daily use of firearms, not to mention skilled armed conflict, above all in the shtettl.

The latter scarcely chose their role as victims vs. the former more self-sufficient group.

All I get from many on this Forum is the perennial "empathy fatigue" and please bear in mind that once the conscience goes, so too the soul and humanity has traded her specialness, distinct from the animal kingdom, in exchange for a ring side seat before the Gates of Hell.

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Be careful please, with that "Jews had a monopoly on victimhood?" stuff, Dirk, you're playing with fire and might get burned.
Such dodgy rhetoric makes it sound as if the Jews actually "planned" their status as Nazi pawns.

Believe me, if we could've done things differently over the millenia, we'd have done it!

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

Polish people don't necessarily"stare" at strangers any more or less than other relatively homogeneous societies, in which outsiders who appear "different" are often the subject of closer inspection! I'd go as far as to say that Poles may be the more discrete in that sense, compared with say, the small-town Germans whom I initially encountered.

Being tall, but at the time dark, curly-haired, brown-eyed and non-Nordic-looking, I received plenty more stares in Scandinavia than I ever did during my all too brief respite in Poland roughly a few years later:-) When I started to speak in the respective languages much less, that was it, it was too much for them up north to handleLOL

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Well, Morawiecki apparently has relaxed the restrictions of this new law....somewhat!

News / Poland supporting potential new EU members - Georgia and Turkey [32]

Turkey especially is today a political force to be reckoned with!

Erdogan wants to reject Ataturk's vision of a modern nation and return to the time of sultans and caliphates.
This Turkey is clearly not ready for the EU, NOT the erstwhile democratic bridge presided over by enlightened, Western-
thinking politicians, for instance Tansu Cillar.

History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

"But generally speaking, the German populace retained their Catholic/Protestant identity."

On the surface so it seems. However, ask an Austrian historian about his or her countrymen's religious affiliations, and they'll probably reply neither "katholisch" (Catholic) nor

"protestantisch" (Protestant), but rather "Nationalkatholizistisch" aka "National Socialist Catholic":-)

Nominally, nearly all Germans were/are Christian, of course, the Jewish population being even back then a decided minority within the German-speaking world.
Plessner's point though is that one of any number of reasons why Hitler was able to sell the Germans (including Austrians) on his exterminationist ideology with such

apparent ease, was that there was little firm Christian underpinning in their society. Therefore, they were quickly sold, most of them, on the notion that the bigger, tougher, stronger, healthier, more mentally agile, were simply better than those less fortunate a la Darwin!

The concept of divine spirit, brotherly love, Jesus' Sermon on the Mount "And the meek shall inherit the earth" and so forth, remained essentially foreign to the historical German character, and hence utterly laughable to the arch-cynical Nazis.

History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

The Nazis, one might with equal veracity argue the Germans as well, were Pagan in their world view, a people belonging to a nation which never quite Christianized, but instead merely paid lip service to convenient Christian imagery or symbolism! Essentially, religion was the means which justified their ends, namely, the conquest of "inferior" races and peoples aka anybody who wasn't deemed a fit AryanLOL

Helmuth Plessner states the former point of view quite cogently in his famous (as yet untranslated) volume "Nationhood Deferred: On the Political Gullibility of the Bourgeoise Intellect".

Work / New Job at Warsaw International School as an English teacher - Advice? What should I expect? [26]

This confirms then what I've long suspected. Maybe this too helps to explain the proverbially low quality of English instruction in Poland.

History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

Hitler certainly did hate Christianity with its ideals of love and forgiveness! He is known to have publically (as well as in MeinKampf) excoriated Christianity as having too much of a "Jewish conscience".

Work / New Job at Warsaw International School as an English teacher - Advice? What should I expect? [26]

If your first language isn't English (in your case I'd assume Polish, yes?), this oughtn't pose much of a problem either, considering the ultra-globalized world we live in.

Some twenty-five or more years back, I might concede that even the hint of not being native to the language being taught could in fact understandably be seen as a barrier, today, I'd have to say no.

Work / New Job at Warsaw International School as an English teacher - Advice? What should I expect? [26]

Adult learners don't really need "teaching technique" in the classroom as compared with children or under-age teens, I'll grant you that much.
However, any number of international institutes of the kind described in the thread will doubtless prefer someone with either a degree in CELTA, TESOL or any similar degree from a certificate-bearing, accredited college which will confer same on those teaching ESL abroad (the operative word here)!

If your husband has no background further in the language of country where he will be teaching, this might pose a problem.
Sure, I realize bribery runs rampant nearly everywhere on the known planet nowadays, many Polish schools DO indeed require at best a minimal standard for their teachers, albeit the pay probably won't be that terrific in contrast with the States, particularly Germany for instance, doing the same job.

History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

Further addendum, just the truth.

The Poles to the Nazis were sub-human ("Untermenschen").
However, the Jews were termed by Hitler himself vermin ("Geziefer").

The former might still be permitted to live under the Third Reich, albeit solely as slaves and servants to the Master RaceLOL
The latter were in fact NOT permitted to live, certainly not within the dragnet of at that time occupied Europe, roughly extending from France to the Reichskommisariat

in the Eastern districts or "Ostlandgebiet". The goal here was total extirpation, even for so-called Mischlinge or "quarter Jews" in the long run.

Perhaps to some an insultingly insignificant distinction. It does though point to a slight degree of wiggle room in the former group which might have allowed Christian Poles to live.

History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

Concerning loving or hating an entire country, I should quote here the late German President Gustav Heinemann when asked by the press whether he loves his country, he responded, "I love my wife"

:-)

Work / New Job at Warsaw International School as an English teacher - Advice? What should I expect? [26]

American English exclusively, although we all realize full well that "that other one" continues to represent the world standard, look at the UN, EU, NATO etc.

America might lead the world in industry, however, Britain still retains her crown of bearer of the English mother tongue to millions:-)

Work / New Job at Warsaw International School as an English teacher - Advice? What should I expect? [26]

Students want to believe their teachers/instructors/professors are role models. They too realize that there's plenty of PR in language teaching and that their pedagogues

don't always say EXACTLY what they mean. I can't quite agree with you there one hundred percent.

The main thing is/was that my charges saw that my native language was English, the language in which I was engaged to teach.