News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


When? Where? How? Generalizations of any kind are pointless. It all depends on the details. Many things are possible.


That is not true.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Dude, there were hardly any beers worth mention. It is an exmaple of people given a choice - In 1500 Poland had 400 kinds of beer. After commies things just went back to normal. Not due to German influence.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Sure, I can give you beer money all the time and then go around and ask for a lot of 'favors' hence I'm paying for your beer. (your take on EU, founds, Poland)


Not only Netflix series but a lot political values. German political values are rather insular and those which are not, consist of the progressive neo-Marxist BS that do more harm than good in Poland- German relations.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Because if you want to influence a country to be amendable for your economical or political interest you better have something that would persuade them rather than rely on purely economical or monetary forces. Even if you get what you not in a short run it will create resentment and a lot of backslash in the long run. What's good about it?


Well, overbearing powerful neighbor could a constitute a danger. That is given. However most of that political jabbering in Poland is a hyperbole. It doesn't reflect reality of a Polish mindset that well. Beside me lots of people have very down to the Earth practical approach to issues.


Don't blame others for your culture with low appeal. lol

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]



Hardly B or W can attract a lot of people.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Maybe they would. However it is a totally different aspect. I might not be happy about outcome but at the same I would acknowledge it for what it is. That would be an entirely different talk.

Not being able to match economical prowess with an with appriopate cultural influence is a big problem. For everyone involved.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Yeah, I'm not talking about THAT aspect. Its the other parts. As someone pointed out Germany have no soft power to go with their economical influence and that is a problem, a big F problem. Seems like Germans on PF do not get it!


I wouldn't go that far.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


That is different dude. We are not talking about immigration or assimilation but about attractiveness of the German culture to an average Polish person.


I can speak for the majority of Polish people.
My mother was fluent in German and tried to teach me some when I was a kid. I can order a beer, ask where is a toiled get a gist of a simple sentence in German. That about it. As for the German culture. It wasn't really interesting to me and it isn't for the majority of the Polish people/

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Dude, money, work, all economically viable issues. Put on the top some awareness of historical ties and vole. It doesn't mean that German culture is interesting to Polish people.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


That is not a fact but your opinion. Are you sure it derive from your rational side or is it just a partisan political bickering? Anyhoo, the devil is in the details. What, how, when and with whom. Creating aim of a diplomacy depending on pollical likes and dislike or on a whim or even worse - to kick your political opponent is just whimsical folly. I really dislike it.


Well, at the very least you echoes here rhetorical hyperboles and whishy whooshy emotional BS overrepresented in Poland in political talk. Just cut it off. It is emotional nonsense. Silly claims aimed to justify emotional outrage and reactions. Snap out of it.


BS, it goes both ways, everyone do not give a s/////t about constitution is just a tool to hit your political enemy with. Don't be silly, why are you repeating that tripe?

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News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Hey BB, don't take it personally. I'm not being nasty here. Just staying as it is. It works other way around too. Few Germans if any has much of an idea about Poland or it culture and I don't mean those who are doing it as a profession.

This is the way it is. Seems people in Poland are more interested in Korean culture than German. Why is that? I don't know. If German culture would be a dish it could be described by polish people as bland and boring.

On the other hand efficiency and order in Germany is something Poles are silently envious of in a positive way.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Poland was an empire long before your pirates financed yours Dough. It kept a balance of power in this part of Europe for about 500 years. Your ended what after 200 - 300? So stop scoffing it only stress your ignorance Dougie. It wasn't about skills ( if we talk about old Poland) but about a game that was much more complex that anything you had in the west.

You had tyrannical rulers that united and centralized their country by set of bloody wars on their subjects, kept in check by a brute force and a state decreed religion - so stop being so condescending will you?


Just a rhetorical hyperbole. However the fact is EU promote an ideology that is not suited for Polish people and it will be rejected by the majority. Pusing it onto Poland is just antagonizing people big time against EU. More that those economical and political issues that majority of Polish people do not perceive that well.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


What position? That of a serf? To phrase it better a junior partner of Germany or more realistically as a vasal state? Your position is bizarre.


Dude, aren't you delusional big time and somewhat of a drama queen? Things you say here are just delusion or lies.


Well if NATO is not around any longer. EU is hardly a substitute. Unless you are talking about Germany and advocating that is a much better option for Poland to become Germany's vassal which is not a new idea.

Problem with that is the fact that Germans are really bad at being say seniors partner in relations and they ten to antagonize people and countries. On the top they have no soft power. German culture is not attractive to Polish people at all, or any people other than Austrian maybe.

Language / Ethnic backround of suffixes of Polish surnames [54]

There you go - 100% Polish.

Language / Ethnic backround of suffixes of Polish surnames [54]


So what? The name is not German, nor Russian. Its Rusinskie/ could be Ukrainian could be Polish. Religion would be most telling although not in 100%.

By the way Terri ain't an expert nor is she Polish,

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


German economy jump started since Poland's market opened to it. That is the reason you overtook France. So don't talk to me as if there were any favors.


No! I found it funny that for those relativity small money Germans think that can buy everything and the list is growing. Phew!

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


I don't know what planet you are on but I have no idea what you are talking about.


1. German boss make an unliteral decision - let this refugees in.
2. Most of those so called refuges wants to go and stay in Germany or alliteratively in Scandinavia.
3. After sh.t hit the fan Germany start talking about solidarity sharing burden and all the BS while pushing for north stream 2.
Question:
What gives the right for German head of state to make such decision in the name of the EU?
what about 'human rights and dignity' of refuges who want to stay in Germany not go to Poland? Shouldn't they whishes be respected?
How come solidarity in German means something else than in other languages? In other languages it means two ways streets. In Germany it means if WE need something others SHOULD give it to us. The other way around no so much.

- How about we share everything burdens and gains? Poland take some refuges and a part of Germany wealth - fair is fair after all.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


what the EU? Generally speaking is not EU institutions but all circumstances and reality of the EU.


Pours money my foot. We already had this discussion. I'm not going to repeat myself - that is big BS not help.

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Nah she is 'touched" if you get my drift. If not think harder. Just let her be.


Likud and some others may disagree.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Nah, not really.


Who is doing the milking EU or Poland that is a question. ( rhetorical one - the EU )

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

Just leave her be. Nickidewbear has her own take on things. Just stop provoking her. Have some sense.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


There is not contradiction. People say - right now we stay in the EU. However in the future it would be better for Poland to leave the EU. Simple. A practical approach, I approve.


Nobody asking you Lyzko.

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Along with growing discontent about the way things are and an alienation of the ruling elite. Passing more and more draconian laws and attempts at quashing citizens protests.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]


Sure, but shopping malls are not one of those commodifies that people cannot get without.. anyhow I think most of not every European country has some regulation when it comes to shopping on Sundays. Poland just follow suit. I would think those who support EU wouldn't be so rejecting it so harshly.

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for shopping? I thought it is all about those who would have to spend that day in work without that choice/ One out of seven. If you cannot make it six days in the row what makes you think you would on the seventh? You run a business right? You should know what I'm talking about. Would be kind of nice if you did.

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [543]


She is not, just an act. Why? To divert media and so called opposition from scrutinizing other more sensitive issues. His horizons might be limited but you don't give him his due as a shrewd political operator.

I don't support PiS but there is no other power on the moment that could replace them. PO and all the red scum is not an option they are even worse.

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [543]


No, because it is all more complex on so many levels that you give it a credit for.


I'm not. I like you. We don't need to agree on issues. Since I like you I want you to stop you from making ridiculous claims like that


By the way Corbyn is a way worse hands down without any extenuated circumstances. I bet you vote on him.
I don't of you have noticed but I'm against PiS. I wasn't 100% sure for w while. I have given them some time but right now I'm 100^ against them and their rule. Thing is I don't want PO or other red scum to replace them.


How many foreign languages Trump can speak? Well Trump is atypical. What about Clinton, Bush eh?

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [543]


They were publicly humiliated by the USA. I strongly suspect I-el lobby had its hands on that. The problem here is not some second rate politicians with no sense or brains but it is a fact they let it happen to their country.


Sure, most of them has their roots planted deeply into soviet Poland soil. Meaning they are inclined to be looking up for a boss. They don't know how to conduct an independent policy. Not do not look up to Kremlin nowadays. PO sucked up to Berlin and PiS is doing the same to Washington. Sadly those forces have an upper hand in Poland's political life. So far. Hell, only recently Poland broke a grip that the Soviet military intelligence held over Poland.


still PiS has quite a liberal immigration or migration policy. Lettings millions in not only from Ukraine but from Philippines and Pakistan or India as well. Do you think they check their credentials or religion?

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Is not the way Poland sic does that or other, It is a fact that Poland has a problem with its elites, be it lack of them, be it a poor quality of them. Poland lost it elites and its King long time ago and had no opportunity or time to create new elites.

PiS doing its best, is really pitiful in it attempts to navigate the ocean of the international politicks. it doesn't help the vessel needs quality a lot of quality time in a dry dock.

Poland's government is too easy. Being an ally is a art too. Being a helpless vasal is easy. Those who are responsible for it should be branded and traitors.

Making Poland into a banana republic. Those nasty stupid soviet F..kers! PO was dissed for their weasel dependence on Berlin. PiS is not different with their butler like attitude towards USA .


Oh really? So you say that American elites have no sense or will of their own?

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Chemikiem, you are not very well informed about Poland's politicks. Just stay away from it. Do me a favor.


BS. Away with your partisans' BS. Is not that you are against some or other example of bad governance, you are partisan to the core. THAT is a source of your criticism. Just state your position clear that all I ask. I hate it when you pretend to be an innocent bystander, so called objective observer. It sinks.

For the record. Pis is not worse than others that have been ruling in Poland before it.
So your claim stinks. I wonder are you aware of it or not.


I'm pretty sure there is more to the issue that you have heard. By the way no other gov is as close to Saudi Arabia as a gov of the US of A. What you have against Iran, it is Persia. A country Poland historically and in general had a distant but at the same cordial relations. That worsened after Poland joined NATO.