USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


I must admit, there's stupid, and then there's Polonia stupid.


The American Polonia ("Polacks") are exceptionally stupid, yes. It's like they've taken the worst of Polish stupidity and incorporated it into American stupidity - yielding a particular blend of stupidity that only American Polacks could have.


Yes :( Why the hell doesn't Europe do that kind of food well? :(

Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [188]

Haven't you heard about the subtleties of bigos? Every time you warm it up, it tastes more and more of rotten, smelly old socks ;)

Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [188]


No way, it's fantastic.

Life / My experience in Poland 15 years ago as an American trying to live and work there. [167]


In all honesty, the work looks like the rantings of someone delusional on acid or similar.

Not bad as an attempt to produce something with the atmosphere of "fear and loathing" or similar - but please, don't insult our intelligence by pretending that it's real.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

Certainly. First thing I found was this -

Publications "Polish Gazeta " and "Nasz Dziennik " that the officer BOR Jacek Pig , who was killed in the crash near Smolensk , he had to call his wife after the plane crash , had violated a basic principle of honest journalism , ie the principle of truth - assessed the Media Ethics Council .

Liars.

Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [188]

Polish toast bread + Polish UHT milk = fantastic :)

(I love the way that their "toast" bread is so sweet)

Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [188]

Yes, but my favourite involves plain chicken :)

I can't comment for American food, but British meat tends to be of a very low quality from most suppliers unless it's a "premium" product. I can see how they might complain - they probably also can't cook very well and are used to being fed by Babcia ;)

Life / My experience in Poland 15 years ago as an American trying to live and work there. [167]


Certainly, the market for such "reality" books never got off the ground really.

Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [188]


As far as I'm concerned, the quality of meat far surpasses all but premium, "farmers" meat in the UK. Can't comment for elsewhere, but the quality of chicken is definitely on another level.

If they were eating cheap food (as they undoubtably were), then yes, the quality was probably less.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]


No, Jola, we want the rules from you. Torq and pawian have given us what's publicly available, and linked us to sources which are credible. They admit happily that they don't have any evidence of it - nor are they claiming that such rules exist. YOU on the other hand brought up the "ban on Polish speaking" - and still haven't provided us with a credible source.


The newspaper was convicted in a Polish court of lying. Say no more. Torq and pawian can provide credible sources about this - why can't you?

Or are you admitting that you think that convicted liars are a good source of information?

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]


Certainly so - the achievements of the United States of America should not be downplayed in anyway. One of the greatest things about America is that you're not afraid to admit when you've been bad in history - it's obvious from American sources that you're deeply ashamed of the treatment of native Americans for instance.

I could talk for hours about American history and how endlessly interesting it is.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


I'd hope that they would be able to read history sources from different places and come to a balanced conclusion, rather than simply repeating whatever nonsense they read in Gazeta Polska.


I mean that most of them are completely unable to make up their own minds, instead relying on what hateful, xenophobic newspapers tell them.

Life / My experience in Poland 15 years ago as an American trying to live and work there. [167]


Well, of course - a diary should at least pretend to be real.

I suppose there's a touch of the "Merde" books there too.

Life / My experience in Poland 15 years ago as an American trying to live and work there. [167]

Great piece of fiction, reminds me of one of Andy McNab's books which was set in Estonia in the late 1990's. The atmosphere also reminds me of one book by Dick Francis, set in Moscow in the 1980's.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Oh yes, that was where I started really. Discovering why Poland mentioned Napoleon by name in their anthem was a great starting point :)

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

Yup, that's what I think might have happened as well. I'm still waiting for some sort of credible published source about it (the Tygodnik Powszechny source is good, doesn't mention this alleged ban though) - but I think I'll be a long time in waiting.

If there were actual rules published about this, I dare say it would be all over the Polish media by now.

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

America has a hell of a lot to be proud of, and when people say "America has no history" - they're being rude at best. American history is very, very interesting - how can people deny history to America when it's much older than many other European states?

Even Germany was only created in 1870!

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]


You know, that newspaper seems to be what I've actually been looking for - something middle of the road that doesn't resort to sensationalism.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

What has Tusk got to do with the fact that Gazeta Polska are convicted liars?

Anyway, the average PiS voter fully supports bashing Lithuania.

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

What special perks and privileges are available to those that are non-White?

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

Well, I'd like to know where this story comes from ;)

Or maybe it's not from Gazeta Polska, but Nasza Polska!

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]


All we're asking for is the copy of the actual school rules. It's not that difficult to produce, surely?

Or is this just another myth posted by convicted liars at Gazeta Polska?

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]


Prove it. And I want to see the actual rules, not nonsense reported in nationalist, xenophobic newspapers which have been convicted of lying like Gazeta Polska. Heck, if you can provide something reported in Gazeta Wyborcza or Rzeczpospolita, it'll be a start.

Or is this just another case of believing everything you read?


Yup. The Ukrainian case is rather well documented. It would seem that Poles don't like their own medicine.


Sounds fair to me. Or is it a case of the old double standards? Let's not forget that Poland refuses to supply information in all the community languages, despite there being an obligation to do so.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


The really, really fascinating one for me at the moment is with the Northern Irish Protestants - they identify as being British, but so many Brits are now identifying themselves as Scottish/Welsh/English - so what's going to happen with them if the UK splits up? They don't really identify themselves as being from any one particular place.

This thread is wandering from the opening post.

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]


Jesus, talk about discrimination :(


Thanks - that was a really interesting insight, I appreciate you taking the time to post it :)

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Can I use the cop-out that taxes paid in Scotland are given to the English oppressor?


Nope, there's no history of speaking it in my area. The North-East of Scotland never traditionally spoke it - we spoke Pictish, then moved to Scots - there was never any Gaelic dominance there.

What I mean though, is that often, the native culture of a country often influences the language. I found an absolutely fantastic essay a while ago online about how Irish influenced the English language there - I wish I could find it again :(

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


But were they? Pledging allegiance to a foreign flag every morning doesn't strike me as being 100% Polish, for instance. And not speaking the language fluently - well, they always say that you need to know the language to understand the culture.

(heck, from what I gather, you need to know Irish to understand Hiberno-English!)

Anyway, the whole something-American thing is just snobbery, nothing more.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Bingo. Yet many of them claim that they're 100% POLISH - which is utter nonsense when you look at how ridiculously messed up Polish history is.


Not me, but the American Polonia is rather fond of saying how much Polish blood they have. The line "100% POLISH BLOOD" seems to be quite common among the more ignorant ones.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Doesn't mean a thing - they might have been half Polish, half Lemko.

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People like MediaWatch get very upset when you use the term Polack. It's highly amusing.


I'm sick to death of the way that the American Polonia treat Poles. It's patronising, condescending and insulting in general.