Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

@Ironside, I realize that while you, along with certain others on this Forum, do enjoy playing Devil's Advocate, no intelligent, well-read person denies that Poland has to be sure a vastly homogeneous population among the countries of Europe, in comparison even with Germany, certainly Russia, France, except perhaps for Finland or Hungary:-) Italy and Spain, by comparison both had colonies, particularly Spain, something which Poland never had. They are therefore quite used to non-native, usually black, people living in their midst, thank you very much! The only group today throughout Europe which is the most marginalized remains the Sinti-Roma, otherwise known as the Gypsies.

Concerning my observations with regard to the "typical Polish look", I speak from my experience (as I'd prefaced heretofore), in the same way you undoubtedly speak from yours.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

Once more, facial features, rather than size alone, are for me the dead give away as to whether someone is Polish or not. Nearly every nationality and ethnicity has certain charactaristics peculiar to that particular group. I'm simply sharing my observations which have usually proven me correct as to my guess.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

@Kaprys,

Nonetheless, I've never as yet encountered a black-haired, brown-eyed, short (meaning under 1 meter 20/5 ft. five inches), round-faced Pole who was not of some foreign extraction and/or a Polish Jew.

Then again, this is only my experience:-)

As far as Jews are concerned, there's been so much intermarriage between Jews and gentiles over the centuries, all bets are off!

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

I see what you're saying. However, the only truly dark-eyed Poles whom I've encountered, both here in the States and Poland, claimed to be mostly of Kaszub extraction, thus not "pure" Polish. This again, their words, not mine:-)

Radislaw Sikorski has what I would consider a representative "Polish face", without appearing in any way disrespectful; tall, angular-featured, light-eyed and light-haired.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

Most Poles in general, being Poland is still a by and large homogeneous gene pool, tend to have high cheekbones and square jaws. Although frequently, one might mistake Poles for Northern Germans, it's the sometimes almost Asiatic-looking, intense pale blue eyes and those high cheekbones which give them away, despite a typically tall stature:-)

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

And then our Prez has the temerity to advance the notion that those armed teachers should receive PAY RAISES for being able to wield firearms???!!

Geez, whatcha gotta go through to earn a few more measly bucks. For a gentile, he shows lotsa chutzpah.

You need a license and degrees for just about everything nowadays! A certificate to protect us from a bad haircut, poor teaching, quack doctoring etc, yet NOTHING to protect us from an awful presidency:-)

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

A majority of our US population in the Western as well as Southern and Southwestern states are STILL living in the days of Manifest Destiny, westward expansion ...and never moved onLOL

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

It's what I've been saying all along, Dirk! America never really wanted immigrants, it was merely under the aphrodisiac of cheap labor from abroad:-)

Being a capitalist society, if someone can get something for nothing, while making a killing in the process, few can or would resist such irresistible temptations, would they?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Heck there, Delph! We in the US have tried, though alas unsuccessfully, to bar the Chinese from coming to our country since a law in around the 1880's, publically prohibiting Chinese from either living or working in the States.

Shenanigans? You bet. Undercutting their competitors by aggressively outbidding on cheap labor is but one of numerous dirty tricks up their sleeve.
Once upon a time, and only within two generations or so, such was seen as 'Unamerican". These days, I'm not so sure:-)

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

@You got that one right on the money, Johnny!

In the end, it's a basic culture in this country that's got to change, gun "laws" or no gun laws. My opinion anyway, for whatever it's worth.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

All right, but at least see if certain aspects of those laws can be implemented here, not just chuck out the baby with the bathwater!!

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Spot on, TheOther!

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

...ahemm, most places in our country, save for East Coast metropoli like New York, Boston, possibly D.C. included, laugh and merrily give the middle finger to rules, laws, regulations etc. as the stuff of sissies, Dirk, hate to disappoint ya!! Tell the Clyven Bundy Bunch about the need to follow rules and they'll take shotgun to yer butt, dude:-)

Sure. concealed carry classes are offered, but are they attended, except by the instructor?LOL

Hell, guns are still readily "available" for purchase at a bleedin' Wall Mart, they can be demonstrated at gun shows (of which there are many) and look at the numbers of people, Nikolas Cruz as a prime example, whom our wonderful FBI allowed to slip through the cracks, including Dylan Roof etc.....

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

The Jews share this trading facility they acquired with that of the Chinese, one reason perhaps that the relationship over the centuries between those two peoples has been so cordial...and so free of anti-Jewish feeling among the Chinese people:-)

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

In countries such as Germany, most of Scandinavia as well I imagine, the ONLY way in which any private citizen (the operative word here) can ever hope to legally obtain a weapon is by taking a mandatory aka certified course in how to operate such a firearm, then through the application for a state-sponsored license accurately attesting to the individual's proven ability to operate said weapon!

America is about the laxest country in this regard among the industrialized nations today, not to mention that her primary care for all is basically in the toilet.......on the same level as Costa RicaLOL

Along with with many other issues regarding standardization, this country's become a joke, and the joke's on us.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

...for the unflattering, but simple, reason that Jews were among the more numerous of the white settlers. As they were typically called upon as traders, small wonder again that they would have lent their skills to the slave trade, looked on as merely one more kind of transaction...UNFORTUNATELY.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

The whole problem is that where Mr. La Pierre & Company maintain their steady mantra of "GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE", if the people didn't have the guns already in hand, probably nobody would be killed!!

Kinda a no brainer, ain't it?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

As I posted yesterday, both authors Stephen Birmingham and Eli Evans have attested to the fact that certain Jewish families in the Southern United States most certainly DID engage in the purchase of slaves, regrettable as this obviously was, it was the exception, not the rule!

In Latin America as well as the Indies, true enough, a number of European Jews were among the "successful" slave traders, unfortunately.
Even on our North American continent, and especially in the early years of Hollywood, messrs. Lasky, Goldwyn, and Mayer did regrettably aid in portraying African-Americans as part of the cinema in a most demeaning manner. This I never whitewashed, along with the sad number of financial abusers in the different venue of Wall St., such as Bosky, Millken, later Bernie Boy etc..

In attempting to overcome stereotypes and prejudice, I am the first to confess that many Jews jumped on the Great American Bandwagon of success and sold out their core values for a piece of the American Pie, including the landsmanschaften etc.

This is to be sure something of which I am not proud!!

Genealogy / Polish looks? - part 2 [68]

Not having seen a likeness, I really can't say:-)

A Polish female acquaintance of ours once remarked that Poles tend to have characteristically oval-shaped faces.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

@G

This has never been seriously documented. While it is true that many black African tribes did in fact enslave their neighbors' tribespeople, fellow black Africans, Jews were often accused of slavery in order to justify the continuing bias against Jews as hucksters and cheats.

Genealogy / Polish looks? - part 2 [68]

Your point being Poles often are physically mistaken for Germans and vice versa?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Jewish slave owners in our American South were few and far between, so let's be clear on that point! It is true that numerous wealthy Jewish merchants (most from Germany) often were, for example, the sole dry goods dealers in a given Southern town. This though in no way equates their influence or the extent of their slave holdings with that of their majority Protestant neighbors.

Eli Evans' treatise on this subject is most enlightening.

As far as the nomenclature issue in Poland, clearly Duda is getting mixed reviews.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Folks, arming teachers misses the forest for the trees!

The issue is NOT how to prepare our educators for a potential killing field in our classrooms, rather, to reduce the need PERMANENTLY if possible to even carry assault weapons in school, on the street, anywhere except the rifle range and/or an honest to gosh violent situation in which, say, a gunman has taken hostages or is threatening someone in our community!

Only recently in Britain has talk of arming bobbies even been broached, this in the wake of the recent terror attacks in London and in Manchester.

Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [401]

Scores of German surnames are repleat with Slavic admixture "Dutschke" (as in Rudi Dutschke), "Jeschke", "Schnittke", "Nietzsche", "Buschka" etc.
Usually, such names are Czech, sometimes Polish or Kashub, in origin.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

All right there, Dirk, granted the statistics may or may not back you up on that one. Nevertheless, somethin's gotta give sooner or later. We only hope that it's sooner.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

@DirkDIggler, that "small" number is already one number too many!

@TheOther, I''l frankly put my money on a brick wallLOL

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Australia too consistently fines those Australian citizens who choose to shirk their civic duty by abstaining from voting. Wonder if that would work elsewhere:-)

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Correct, Atch!@

But nobody's going to "revisit" a blessed thing, because compared with much of Europe, Americans are almost pathologically uncomfortable with historical reflection and second-guessing their own actions, even lethal or harmful ones.

You'll hear little breast beating here. Americans on the whole feel what's done is done and cannot be undone, so simply move on.

Perhaps this present march on Washington will knock some sense into our legislators' stupid heads, huh, whaddya say?

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Oh, now I getcha, Siggie. OK, so if the recent migrants had been Swedes, Norwegians or Dutchmen, things would have been different and the discourse more civilized, is that it?

YEAH, RIGHT!!!

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Is the issue here really, like the old saw suggests. that "migrants bring crime", or possibly that the arrival of migrants into countries like Germany, less so Poland, was merely the catalyst needed to unleash gun violence which might have been lying dormant all along, but was triggered by the unexpected sight of dark-skinned "foreign" faces among a populace not accustomed to such changes?

Guess I'm by nature a skeptic and don't feel comfortable with quick-fix type solutions to infinitely complicated issues, that's all.

When our president stated a week ago, that such shootings as occurred in Florida indicate what happens when the mentally ill have access to assault weapons, clearly, he was missing the point. The point is why are guns in the hands of so many "normal" people to begin with, the deranged notwithstanding!