History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

I really can't understand why people keep posting this rubbish.
1.Poles will never trust Russians.With very good reasons.Therefore a Russo-Polski unity can be forgotten.
2.Poles and everyone with the possible exception of Russia will not help Serbs retake Kosovo.
3.Poles have always regarded themselves as "Central European" and not "Eastern European" like our fellow Slavs.
We have always leant more to the West in cultural,artistic and other ways.

Forget this Slav union.It is never going to happen!

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Dolno,I was referring to Dirks post about Catholic and Jewish Poles.
No WW3 coming between Poland and Israel......

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Absolutely agree with Dirk(Adrian).
Time to move on.
The animosity of older generations has no place in the here and now.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Lyzko

Just watch the Spzilman video that kaprys posted and shut up till you have seen it.
You are starting to annoy me with your narrowmindedness.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Thanks kaprys,,the video was extremely enlightening.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Absolutely Poland needs to defend against Russia.
Poland only has one enemy now.
Russia.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

The fact is that most Poles behaved admirably during the war.Many going even too far.
The repercussions to a Poles family for helping Jews was worse than in any other country in Europe.
And still,many Poles took that risk and helped Jews....
There were some bad Poles.
There were some bad Jews.
There were many bad Germans and Russians.
Many Polish Jews did join the Polish army later and fought bravely.
I have never heard any stories of Jews helping Poles though.
But many of the reverse when some Jews conspired with The Russians against Poles.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]


It's true.The left are the new fascists who are trying to stifle free speech from anyone they disagree with.
It's ridiculous and dangerous.Especially in universities.
If people have what you think are wrong or abhorrent views surely you would want to debate with them to at least show others that they are wrong.

You go to university to broaden your mind,not to narrow it.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

Blimey Dirk,I have to agree with every word you said....which surprised me.. :-)

Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]

You suspect wrong my friend.

Speak to some older Hungarians and older Poles and you will understand.

Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]


But even a Scot living in Poland should be aware of the old amity between Poles and Hungarians.

Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]

Are you actually Polish????

Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]

Merged:

Who do Poles like most and least?

Interesting stuff but in my experience Poles prefer Slowaks over Czechs.
And what happened to Hungarians here?
Yeah,we don't like Muslims,Gypsies and Russians.

thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/126111,Poles-like-Czechs-best

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Wielkipolak
One hundred percent correct.

The situation in Poland at the time was desperate for Poles and Jews alike.
To apportion blame on one side more than the other is just wrong.
As in all walks of life,there are good people and bad people.
Some of the bad ones were despicable and some of the good ones were brave beyond comprehension.
Poles and Jews alike.
This is a complex history for many reasons.
But to say that Poles were somehow more guilty than Jews is ridiculous.
Poles and Jews in Poland died in equal numbers.
This is a collective historical tragedy.
We should not be bitching about who was worse or who was better.
It was the same for all Poles.
And in the end we must always remember who the truly evil ones were in this story.
And not to call them Nazis and Communists.
but by their real names.
Germans and Russians.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Thanks jon357.

So if they didn't have Granatowa Policja in this area does anyone know how it worked and what sort of "Auxiliary Policeman" he was?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]


I didn't know that.
So what did The Germans regard his town's area as?
Did they regard it as German Ukraine?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

If he was Granatowa Policja (Navy Blue Police) then he is extremely unlikely to have been guilty.

This from Wikipedia;
"Scholars disagree about the degree of involvement of the Blue Police in the rounding up of Jews. Although policing inside the Warsaw Ghetto was a responsibility of the Jewish Ghetto Police, a Polish-Jewish historian Emmanuel Ringelblum, chronicler of the Warsaw Ghetto, mentioned Polish policemen carrying out extortions and beatings. The police did also take part in street roundups, but not in the killings of Jews. On June 3, 1942 during a prison execution of 110 Jews in Warsaw, members of the Blue Police stood and wept, while the Germans themselves executed the victims, after the Poles refused to obey the orders of their overseers to carry out the shooting. According to Raul Hilberg, "Of all the native police forces in occupied Eastern Europe, those of Poland were least involved in anti-Jewish actions.... They [the Polish Blue Police] could not join the Germans in major operations against Jews or Polish resistors, lest they be considered traitors by virtually every Polish onlooker." Holocaust historian Gunnar S. Paulsson agrees that the role of the Blue Police was minimal: "Keep this in mind - wrote Paulsson - the Jews in Poland were isolated in ghettos. They were rounded up by German police with the aid of Ukrainian and Baltic collaborators, and the enforced co-operation of the Jewish ghetto police, but very little participation by Polish police (mainly in the smaller centres). They were taken to killing centres staffed again by Germans, Ukrainians and Balts."

I smell a rat here.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

If he was in The German army he must have been Volkedeutsch.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Sorry Crow,but the Russians have duped some of you Serbs into believing that they're your friends.
But they only remain your friends whilst you remain useful idiots helping them.
The Russian state only cares about Serbia for as long as it is a loyal dog.
If you turn against your master,he will have you put down.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Do you really expect Poles to trust the Russian state???
Poles and Russians have a common enemy.
They are the people that rule and govern Russia.
If Russia ever discovers democracy,then maybe things might happen.

History / How much Poles trust to France? [93]

Poles hate France so much that if you drive down the eastern border of France from Calais to Mulhouse all the old mining towns are full of Polish surnames.

History / How much Poles trust to France? [93]

Believe it or not,the world does not revolve around Serbia.
In fact,the world spends very little time,if any,thinking about that relatively unimportant little country.
France,by comparison is much more important,Russia perhaps more so.
Both in geographical size and population,Russia is the bigger snake.
In terms of damage and hurt done to their own population and people of other countries,Russia is by far the bigger snake.
In terms of deception and lies,all countries,including Serbia are guilty.
But again,Russia is by far the biggest snake.

History / How much Poles trust to France? [93]

Sarkozy is like Putin.Both snakes.
Serbs trust Russia.....???

Please stick to the topic

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

@gregy741

This "village idiot" was born and bred in London.....the city where you say you now reside.
Even if you come from Warsaw,by comparison to me,it is you that are the village idiot.
A word of advice......
Don't spend all those roubles on wodka my traitor friend.......

@Crow

I have to say that I am warming to you.
Your passion,your pride,your insanity is very Slav.
Your supposed love for Poland I doubt though.I feel you have ulterior motives.
I'm sure we could enjoy sharing a few bottles of wodka together though!
But I will never share your love for Russians.....

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

@Crow

I feel Slav like you do.

But will never trust The Russians.
Just a few reasons;

1.Occupations of Poland.
2.Katyn.
3.Warsaw Uprising.
4.Kresy and Siberian Labour Camps.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]


You are hilarious!
Why would Poland want to make deals with a country that has so much poverty?
The biggest country in the world with a large population and yet only the GDP of Italy?
You're having a laugh mate!

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]


I see The Kremlin are still paying your salary then........ ;-)

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Poland doesn't need Russia.Never has done and never will.
Russia has always been Poland's enemy and any friend of Russia is an enemy of Poland too.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [943]

Another great example of why Poles and Serbs will never be close.
Serbian apologist for Russia.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

I can still tell if a family are walking in the street when they are Polish......
This even happened when I was a kid and my Dad spotted it.
It's not 100%,but Poles can spot Poles a mile off!