News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


"Bernie" :-/

The saber rattling continues.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused NATO on Tuesday of deploying a significant amount of military hardware near Russia's borders and said Moscow could respond to security threats from Western countries and Ukraine if necessary.

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


Jimmy's friend
Who is "Jimmy" ?


And a lot of the West would freeze to death this winter.


Bring our military home and let the West deal with their problem.
The E.U. would be forced to build their military up by cutting out "free" healthcare and "free" college to pay for it just like the U.S. sacrifices.

The U.S. would then have enough money to give our citizens free healthcare and college with the Americans tax money instead of supporting the E.U. with it forever.

I am so glad you ask that question. :-)

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So basically, more denial from joun who like all Liberals 'never' admit to being wrong.


I am so glad you are here sometimes, Rich, to counter joun's Marxist propaganda.
Just watch how many NATO troops boots will be on the ground when Russia invades Ukraine.
All the saber rattling will amount to no more than sanctions by the U.S. and the U.K.
The U.S. and U.K. warned Russia against any military incursion into Ukraine, saying it would be a strategic mistake that would be met with serious diplomatic and economic consequences.

I am sure that scared the pants right off Putin. LOL
Putin wants Ukraine before Ukraine can even remotely become a member of NATO.

Off-Topic / Let us have Slavic Christian Church [30]


No if's about me loving Jesus as He is my best friend.
I already like you but I would never love you.
I would love to sit and break bread over a big bottle of wine with you however.

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


Still trying to play dumb with your redirects. lol
I love it when you keep going off - topic to confuse the issue.
That's when I know I got ya. HA !


On the contrary my friend, you lost big time when you contradicted yourself as I pointed out very clearly in my above post.
Now if you want to debate the Artic, I suggest you start a new thread as it has nothing to do with this one.
Russia ain't gonna invade Poland so this is a moot "what if thread" anyways.
Besides joun, for some reason I can't see you joining the Polish Army to kill in defending Poland from 'any' invading country

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


Happen to notice the name of the thread


So, we are again and again and again.... not talking about my territory, we are talking about how you think the two E.U. nuclear powers can protect Western Europe.

Now quit playing dumb with your deflect.


Exactly joun, yet you posted contradicting yourself with your double talk, see:


Bottom line is that Russia would win a war against the Baltics and Poland and Western Europe without NATO's help.

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


Yes really, are you denying that fact ?

observer.com/2019/08/super-silent-russian-kilo-submarines-new-tech-british-waters/


Another deflect because we weren't talking about the Artic, we were talking about Western Europe where you live, Slippery.
Yes, a Russian sub in British waters under the Russian flag harassing British warships and tapping into internet cables on the ocean floor virtually undetected, according to very rattled sources within the UK military.

The Telegraph was the first to report the worries, which include the belief that new and improved diesel-powered Kilo-class boats more accurately referred to as the Varshavyanka class equipped with stealth technology are stalking British warships undetected, in British territorial waters.

And at least one Russian submarine has already successfully demonstrated its potential by cruising nearly undetected along a NATO member-state's coastline.

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Prove it


Common knowledge like when the Russian nuclear sub, after a very long time hidden off the coast of Britain/Sweden was finally detected to the shock of Western Europe.

If anyone is clutching at straws it is you with your meaningless one liners.
I honestly think you could make a preacher swear.

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


So they tell you to make you feel safe


they had no reason to go stealth, it made no difference
those are the ones you saw, just think of the ones you didn't see but were there right under your nose on your doorstep


another projection by joun pretending to know what others think

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


Some people actually believe that
Remember when Russia's nuclear subs were detected only 20 kilometers off the shores of Britain ?
Remember when Russian bombers were actual seen by the British civilians when they were so close to Britain ?
What are your so called stealth subs going to do about that ?

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


You do by repeatedly pratting about nuclear Western Europe.


Not my job but you can bet your ass Putin does.


We know that the West would be demolished by Russia without NATO/the U.S.A.

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


That was my point about you banging on how secure you are with Europe's two nuclear powers.
Meaningless.
He has satellites above you to shut down all communications in Europe to even launch the damn things.
You're screwed jon.

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But not Putin that has them targeted


Well if the EU would just start paying their fair share into NATO would help.
Maybe we could afford free education and healthcare in our country then.
Buying gas and oil from Putin (Norsteam) to put Billions into Russia's military complex sure isn't helping either.

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Some people actually believe that

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]

And Russia has them on their subs so what's your point ?

The United States of America IS NATO !


You don't think there are not any nuke's on Polish soil that Putin has targeted in the first volly ?
Did you know that Iran (Russia's allie) will soon have nuclear capability ?
I see that your "Nukes" give you a very false sense of security.
Down deep you know that the U.S.A. is your only real security blanket.

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It was used to make my point of how Russia has rearmed mightier than Europe has both conventional and nuclear.
Without NATO Putin would walk through Europe in two or three months and own it.

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So did Russia so it should be a good one especially if NATO were to pull out.

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


That means Europe won't being doing real well then either.

Study / What classes are offered in Polish schools? [5]

Przemyslaw Czarnek announced that he would block the sexual education program implemented in Gdansk.
He said that these programs 'demoralize' children.
Yet the age of consent in Poland is 15 in hopes of repopulating Poland.
If anything is demoralizing to a child is giving them permission to do it my not educating them of the consequences of doing it first.

Just my opinion........

Off-Topic / Let us have Slavic Christian Church [30]

Is that top picture really you, St. Crow ?

Off-Topic / Let us have Slavic Christian Church [30]

It's quite ironic that there is a For Sale sign in front of it.
Maybe this is Pastor Crow's calling and he could turn the place around with his Christian wisdom.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


They call it "Solidarity", something that has been destroyed by "diversity" in other White countries.
Hats off to Poland ! :-)

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]


Or a casus foederis.
Either may be considered an act of war.
However, since Ukraine is not a NATO alliance, Putin will give the order for NATO to pull their military "trainers" out of Ukraine before he invades.

When they don't and NATO troops start getting killed it will become an "act of war."
God save us if that happens.

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [283]

Try to explain why it's just another training exercise (Russia's official explanation), or how Putin and Russia have been provoked by the aggressive expansion of NATO westward, and why the Budapest Memorandum wasn't legally binding, or how Ukraine has always been Russian anyway, so why shouldn't they just snap it up and something about spheres of influence.

Will Poland be next ?
And with Russia's allie Iran getting very close to becoming a nuclear country, things are going to heat up very fast.

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Never say never.
U.S. (NATO) costs and losses in a war with nuclear Russia would be catastrophic.
Such a war in Ukraine is unwinnable, and it is not worth sacrificing American lives to wage and Putin is very aware of this.
Putin has been waiting patiently for an opportunity like he has now with a "diaper dandy" U.S. president at the helm.
My prediction is that the U.S. will not spill American blood in this one.

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Dow suffers worst Black Friday selloff since 1931 thanks to the China virus mutation announcement.
My oil stocks to the biggest hits.
Needless to say, I had my worst one-day loss ever today. :-(

Life / Grisly crimes in Poland [124]


Oh she was innocent alright.
I think the boyfriend did it.

Life / Grisly crimes in Poland [124]

Sick, totally a sick mind.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Here is my latest non leathal idea, Rich.
The Active Denial System.
The Active Denial System (ADS), is a non-lethal, directed-energy weapon developed by the U.S. military, designed for area denial, perimeter security and crowd control. Informally, the weapon is also called the heat ray since it works by heating the surface of targets, such as the skin of targeted human beings

Google this to see a demonstration on how it works and it's effectiveness.
How can the Bleeding Heart Liberals possibly object to this as harmful abuse ?

bing.com/videos/search?q=active+denial+system+for+sale&docid=607989660679421644&mid=D9CB32A357BA206814F8D9CB32A357BA206814F8&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Problem solved.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Perhaps joun could expand on your question, Rich, with more than a one-liner cop out that is.