History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Weimarer, methinks thou art being a troll! Pulling our leg then:-)

You're honestly comparing the fathers of a modern democratic Germany (based in fact on the US Constitiution, much less) with some slick opportunist whose scientific fame rests almost solely on satisfying America's desire to beat the that time Soviet Union in the arms race, was essentially an unrepenetant, if "re-educated"(LOL),Ex-Nazi, and whose accomplishments were that of a "cuckold" of the United States government?

Although I'm scarcely belittling von Braun's genius at re-invention and self-promotion, his stature pales before the likes of a Friedrich Ebert or Philipp Scheidemann, not to even mention an Albert Einstein or a Max Planck!

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Hahn and Strassmann succeeded in splitting the atom, yet Hahn in particular became an émigré shortly thereafter, fleeing to Britain, subsequently
to the US, if I'm not mistaken.

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

Probably right, Maf.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Testosterone without the aid of those little gray cells is worthless!

Instead of celebrating "manhood", why not do something in praise of the human brain, next to the spleen, the most underrated human organ.

@Weimarer,
I merely corrected your English in order to improve communication, as your usage gave a different meaning in English to what you meant to say in German:-)

No offense taken, I'm sure.
lol

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Weimarer, you're truly off the beam, my friend.

If you don't care about your history, you obviously don't care your future!
The ends don't always justify the means.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Nevertheless, your use of "aggressive" in this context is wrong, deal with it! B.B. was impressed by a "crass" story. If he didn't mean "raw" or "callous", he used the wrong word, sorry once again to burst your perfect bubble.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

?? Dr. Wernher von Braun was part of the entire Nazi ideology! One of the luck ones, he made it over to the States (along with Hubertus "Strugi" Strughold, Kurt Debus and Arthur Rudolf), not without conveniently shedding his NS past (lest we conveniently forget the Dora-Rocket Project in Pinnemuende, using JEWISH slave labor, oh sorry, you're right, ol Doc von Braun knew nothing about that little factoid, right?LOL) and, thanks to flawless American English, drop-dead good looks plus a telegenic personality just made for TV, wangled his way into America's (and NASA's) hearts, eventually becoming Honorary Citizen of Huntsville, Ala.

The enemy of America's enemy became America's bosom buddy!!
Nice try there, Weimarer:-)
:-)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

By "aggressive", I trust you mean "annoyed" or "pissed off", right? In English, "aggressive" means "assertive", it's a false friend with the German:-)

Hate to be a pest, but often you guys do tend to translate from German when posting in English.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Why Dirk, ol' man, you missed your calling as an illustrator for >Der Stuermer<. LOL

@Weimarer,

I never once referred to you or your ilk as "subhuman", but rather to your seemingly primitive and misguided Weltanschauung as beneath any human dignity, nothing more:-)

Interesting mix of German idols you have, sir. You realize that the late Ex-Chancellor Schmidt was partly Jewish on his father's side and I find it decidedly curious as well that you mention Arminus aka Hermann Cherusker among those Germans whom you most admire. So different each of them too. What do they possibly have in common except as Germans?

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

Recall once hearing the expression "dobry gosc", meaning "a good egg" aka "good guy".

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Eternal creations are forever, B.B., whereas a victory match, a beer's, only as good as your last burp:-)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

A judgement call, I suppose. The "order" of a city like Rostock, complete with homegrown bigotry and anti-foreigner violence threatening to come out of the woodwork at a second's notice vs. the "disorder" etc. of Frankfurt am Main (rather than an der OderLOL) in the former West, with plenty of "free", if foul-smelling air from the physical filth as opposed to the spiritual decay emanating from the former East, albeit nearly zero foreigners and clean streets.

As for me, lived quite some stretch of time in multi-culti, Berlin near where I grew up ( and which Hitler once termed "die Judenrepublik") you may recall and had the opportunity of spending a stretch with some erstwhile friends in squeaky clean Swabia, with picturesque, cuckoo-clock storybook villages, nearly no non-Germans within a radius of almost five-hundred kilometers.

Couldn't wait to return to civilization!

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

"Leftist"??

Capitalism is as rightist as you can get, Weimarer!
I question whether or not you love your country for the proper reasons:-) For instance, classical music, visual arts, cinema, literature, science....
These are the reasons one "loves" their country, not merely whose soccer team is the best or this kind of thing. The latter is purile, that is to

say "juvenile" and not terribly mature.

Oh well, who knows, maybe you'll grown into yourself eventually and develop into a human being:-)

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

If you can't get used to the new normal of being underbid by lowballing foreigners in your country, well, I guess you'll have to move from Germany or at least be your own AfD soldier for change:-)

LOL

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Germans aren't the only ones obsessed with immigration. They're merely the ones we have to keep an eye on a little more than, say, Poland, Hungary, Denmark or France, for obvious reasons:-)

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

@Weimarer,

How can you sit there and post that you're for technology and nature while in the same breath by ant-foreigner in Germany? Who d'you think will be filling many of those tech as well as green jobs?? In addition, numerous German firms have moved offshore, not to mention having been outsourced for years now:-)

Your argument is specious, it holds no water.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Weimarer is indeed uninformed about many such matters and also appears to have revisionist views of history, albeit ancient!
:-)

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

@Weimarer,

....and anti-everything else, so it seems:-)
Tell us, apart from a mythically pure "white", native Germany, what DO you like anyway?
LOL

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

I know an expression in English "The perfect is the enemy of the (just) good enough".
:-)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Schumann? I've no idea, Ziemowit, as the chap I'm referring to was a musician who died in the 1850's, I think.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

I was only in Zwickau once and that was to visit the birthplace of Robert Schumann, the composer.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

We must distinguish here between traditional home grown European anti-Semitism, such as the rich, fertile soil of the peasantry from which the Nazis drew their support as opposed to the SPD-CSU's local backing of the Palestinian Arabs who themselves are openly anti-Semitic.

Not everyone who is willing to receive an anti-Semite, for instance the German government inviting Achmudzhineshad to their county, is necessarily anti-Semitic themselves! Steinmeier & Co. are merely playing politics, but surely they're not dangerous.

Tacitus is absolutely correct that the AfD keeps awful dodgy company and surely helps fan the flames of anti-Jewish hostility, in itself not far from xenophobia.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Milo, far too many Germans still unfortunately think of Poland as that backwater neighbor full of big-boned whorish females and oafish men who think a tree is something one eatsLOL German arrogance and superiority extends as far south as even Switzerland or Austria, much less Italy, Greece or Spain, that latter three being in German eyes great vacation spots with loose women, but serious culture, science or the like??!

Many would laugh. I agree with you here, Milo. It's sad.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

You like The Ol' "Desert Fox" (whose son Manfred was Stuttgart's most popular mayor ever, I'm told), anti-Hitler and not known to have been indoctrinated with Nazi

anti-Semitism.

And yet, you'd vote for AfD in a shot.

You are a curious conundrum, aren't you Weimarer!
:-)

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

One certainly cannot fault you or others who feel as you do for your unvarnished straightforwardness. However, the worst sort of difference is INdifference, the formaldehyde which preserves us humans from experiencing either the feelings or the emotions of others, permitting us to live extremely long, comfortable, in the end spiritually vastly unfulfilling lives.

Being of German stock, your forbearers were no doubt influenced by the writings of Immanuel Kant, who taught among other things that in the obedience to the highest authority here on earth, of course, any and all predilictions of human empathy or compassion towards others (particularly towards those who disobeyed the Law) were essentially "superfluous", therefore of no serious consequence in the ultimate execution of that which was deemed right, according to the strict adherence to Kantian

logic.

This construct, as in mathematics, works fine from an intellectual point of view, it falls miserably short from a human perspective, justifying the cruelest treatment of our fellow human beings.

It was the same philosopher who, though hardly the only one, proposed a postulate which questioned the existence of G-d! The Nazis too, many of whom were highly literate men, I will admit, used the logic of Herr Kant among many others, to rationalize their unspeakable cruelty towards other human beings whom they deemed weak or unfit for the heroic, tough lifestyle of their ideal Aryan Superman (misreading of Nietzsche, by the way).

Let's hope you won't fall into the same category, Weimarer.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

....then I guess you have no humanity left either, if you ever had any to begin with!
I wouldn't be so proud of my misguided opinions there, Weimarer. I'd be ashamed
to come across to others as such a jerk.

But that's only one man's mindset.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

The person who remarked that "all's fair in love, war, and business" clearly never fell in love successfully, nor lost a battle, nor failed in business.

They must have had one hell of a PR manager though.

Sounds like you're just playing the Devil's Advocate once again:-)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Weimarer, you cannot deny that the US-troops, many of them, DID in fact rape aka "deflower" (entjunfern) numerous young German women during the early years of the American Occupation.

I hope you too haven't fallen victim to Rightist propaganda in support of our current president.

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [574]

Better a bagel than a Polish rockLOL

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

One can take the boy out of his history, but not the history out of the boy:-) Tough for a leopard to change its spots, although cross-breeding CAN actually

make them a bit lighterLOL