News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

my condolences to Poland

i can`t believe this. Latest moves of Polish president Kaczynski presented him as real Serbian friend. Death of Kaczynski is great loss for Slavic south. What a pity. Now, that traitor Tusk who forced recognition of Kosovo and betrayal of Racowie (Serbians) has no real opponent on Polish political scene


i seriously doubt this. Russians are last who could seek for his death. On the contrary, Kaczynski presented Polish politician that had identical approach to Kosovo situation as main protagonists of Russian politics.

Then, all happened in Russia. Why would Russia kill Kaczynski in Russia?? If they wanted to kill him, they could initiate (for example) his heard attack in Kaczynski`s own house. when great power wants that you died you simple died. Realy no need to blame Russia on this sad event. Actually, this is great humiliation for Russia, attack on Polish-Russian relations in crucial moment and if you want attack on complete Slavic world- because we all know that, without Polish-Russian agreement as soon as possible, there is no Slavic world.

Who ever killed Kaczynski, he directly provoked Russia.

Who could kill Kaczynski, who could profit from it, who could lose in case that Poles and Russian agree on something/anything?

Saudi Arabia? NATO? EU? Shiftars (Albanians)? Israel? Turkey? France? Britain? Its hard to say. It could be any of them. It could be their united action against Slavic civilization

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

i don`t know Polish language but as a Serbian i can say that i quite nice understand Polish. i understand Polish well when listen and when read. i am sometimes slow to understand full sense (eventually some particular word) but, in general i always understand meaning of talk/text.

let me show you something...

POLISH METAMORPHOSIS OF TWO SERBIAN FOLK POEMS

pbunjak.narod.ru/koautorski/metamorfoze_s.htm
pbunjak.narod.ru/koautorski/metamorfoze.htm


Polish:

O matko, matko! Bodajś nie pożyła,
żeś nas obojga ze światu zgładziła.

Serbian:

(Približno: O majko, majko! Dabogda ne poživela,
zato što si nas oboje na onaj svet oterala).

When you have such a similarity, practicality overlapping in epic poetry you know that analyzed ethoses were one and same ethos in past. We know Slavic, Polish and Serbian history, we know that we are separated (territorially) by hostile foreign force.

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


interesting


yes. For sure one of greatest sons of Poland. He is seen as national hero of Serbs, too. There is his grave and monument in Serbia, near Golubac (Pigeon) fortress. After killed him and mutilated, Turks took his head and still hold it in Turkey

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


not necessarily

i really want to know. What would one average ordinary Pole mention as example of individual Polish military bravery in whole Polish history, if somebody ask him?


but, is there any individual (except King Sobieski himself) that was remembered by his bravery in that battle

Then, what is biggest Polish national hero from WWII, by opinion of modern Polish historians and by opinion of Polish people?


individual from that battle? Zawisha Czarny maybe? Somebody else, too?

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

Poljaci, tell me what is best example of Polish individual bravery and military virtue in Polish history?

News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]


of course

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


i hope so


then, force Visegrad group and forget NATO. Serbs would join to Visegrad group if it declare military neutrality on global military alliances

But, Polish patriots knows,... Poland don`t need Visegrad group to control Serbia. Poland just need to come and take what rightfully belongs to her, while bringing justice of Sarmatia. Racowie still stand

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


yes, i know


speaking of Hungarians, as long as Poland is sure in Hungarians and can prevent German influence there, its ok with Serbs. But if Hungary betray Poland, then... well, then... Poland and Serbia always can liberate hungarized Slavs of Hungary

News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]


as soon as possible

News / Poland's trump card, the most famous Pole alive (L. Walesa) - what do you think? [38]


aren`t Lusatia still under German occupation?

News / Poland's trump card, the most famous Pole alive (L. Walesa) - what do you think? [38]



complete eastern Germany (probably more then that) is nothing but germanized Slavic ethos and for the sake of peace and because whole so called west is behind you, Slavs tolerate German existence

News / Poland's trump card, the most famous Pole alive (L. Walesa) - what do you think? [38]

its all pure anglo-muja-germano propaganda against Serbs. Polish journalists and parliament investigated and concluded that there were no reasons for military intervention against Serbs so, i don`t need further explanations here.

Kosovo is important because justice is important. So, Serbian people and Serbian order would return to Kosovo, after NATO occupators leave region and, as we all know NATO would go. Simple, go


you have tongue of snake, of sick snake.

News / Poland's trump card, the most famous Pole alive (L. Walesa) - what do you think? [38]

true? Never?

Then, he is wise. He is aware of importance of that question for international relations, for the Serbs and that way for Poles. So, he won`t lure himself easely in discussion on that matter. No doubts that he knows history and knows a lot of about Serbs, about Balkan, about.... If he didn`t support Tusk on Kosovo then, Tusk is already pollitical oblivion. Probably, Polish inteligentsia keeping some cards for the last moment and Walesa could be that card or aware that card must exist and must be played, sooner or later.

No doubt, if Walesa didn`t publicly support Kosovo separation (recognition by Tusk), Walesa most probably support Serbs, meaning... Walesa probably belong to progressive Polish inteligentsia that hold to Polish national and specific interests.

News / Poland's trump card, the most famous Pole alive (L. Walesa) - what do you think? [38]


just tell me what is Walesa`s position on Tusk`s Kosovo recognition and i would tell you how much is Walesa really worth and what Poland can expect from him

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


Serbs are bearers of Dinaric genes that is proved to be autohtonous on Balkan. i am sure that Poles didn`t come to Poland via Eurasian stepes but with slow migration along the Danube river, from Balkan. Ancestors of Slavs were first Whites that populated Europe.

Serbs are biggest proof that Balkan was Slavic in deepest past, that so called Indo-Europeans most probably were Proto-Slavs. Even name of Serbs- SRBI is proved to be archaic, as it is said by linguists- oldest ethnic name of Western civilization. Many rivers, lakes and mountains has root SRB or some archaic form of it. It is only ethnic name of Western world that is mentioned in Rg Veda texts, what is logical.... Sarmatians lived from Europe to the Asia via Eurasia.

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


no, i don`t suggest that

as i said.... Slavs are autohtonous people on Balkan (not only on Balkan, speaking of Europe). They didn`t emigrate there in 7th century as German historical school penetrated its lies/propaganda about Slavs.

So, those autohtonous Slavs from Balkan were target of Greek and Roman conquests, who killed a lot of Slavs, took many of them into slavery. Ancient Balkan Slavs were reduced in number but their number soon was strenghtened by migrations of new Slavic tribes into the region who mixed with their kin brotherly tribes from Balkan. There were ancient Slavic alliances and Slavs outside of Balkan always were aware of situation here.

Then, Roman limes (border) was created, was cut thru ancient land of Slavs mostly following Danube river. Slavs as Slavs didn`t give a sh** for border that was created by Romans, for them border didn`t even exist. But, Romans monitored border and they were vitnesses of inter-Slavic migrations, some tribes left the Balkan, some other arrived. Slavs outside of Balkan often sent reinforsments and help to Balkan Slavs and, Romans recoreded everything. Considering that Slavs didn`t respect border of Roman Emire, Romans didn`t liek them and call the by pejorative names, among else `barbarians` (you can bet that barbarian coming from Sarmatian/Sabratian/Serbian) which meant, let say `savages, those who aren`t civilized`. They used pejorative names for ancient Slavs no matter that almost all Roman knowladge was actualy collected knowladge of Europoean natives- anciant Slavs.

Then, one day, when was suitable to them (it was very early in history) young German nation started to read Roman insciptions and German authors concluded as it was suitable to them... all inter-Slavic migrations were declared as Slavic invasions. German chronicles even choosed the exact century of the beggining of those fictiuonal invasions. They choosed 7th century.

You know, my grandmother knows batter then German chroniclers. i spit on them and i taking back my history!

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


you are on the wrong way. We can speak only about migrations inside of Slavic world/ancient Proto-Slavic world.

Ancient tribes of which you talk about (and many more, under different designations) were all Proto-Slavs... `Illyrians, Macedonians and Thracians were also tall as described by Greek historians`... and they were all Ras (Rashani, Trashani, Thracians, Triballi)/Srb (Sorabi, Sarmatians) people... all native people on its own, old autohtonous Slavs, representatives of first European civilization, first light of Western world.

All eventual genetic add-mixture in modern day Serbs (speaking of Serbs as speakers of shtokavian Slavic dialect) coming because of arrival of Scordisci (central European tribe) and because of constant inter-Serbian or to say inter-Proto Slavic mixing. What i mean... when Romans committed genocide on Dacians/Proto Slavs/Sarmatians (kin tribes to Thracians/Proto Slavs/Sarmatians) numerous refuges from Dacia (south-eastern Europe) moved deeper into European inland and arrived on western Balkan in what is today`s Serbia. Then, we know that after Scordisci (due to Roman onslaught in western Europe) other Galic and Celtic tribes went thru today`s Serbian lands and settled from here to Anatolia (ancient Anatolia was also Proto Slavic region- that`s why refuges because of Greek/Roman onslaught migrated in safety, among other kin tribes).

That`s why today`s Serbs still using name of Serbs (by linguistics original form of Sarmatian name)... because many ancient Sarmatian tribes passed over western Balkan. That`s why local tribal name didn`t survive but modren day Serbs still use universal name of all ancient Slavs (Proto Slavs) name of Ras (Racowie) and Srbi (Sarmati) and names of Serbian medieval states were `Rashka` and `Srbija`. `Rashka` name is based on racial concept, meaning land of Red/Rose people (Whites) and final meaning of `Srbija` is `land of numerous brothers` referring on time when ancients started to organize in tribal alliances/societies/states (many brothers that organize in bigger group).

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


we shall see. When Serbs prevent Russian-German schemes, Germany going down


you would be one who would cry on the end

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


Poles should focus on their loyal partners, on Serbs. Serbs would absolutely support Poland and only that is important. Russians are Serbian problem. In return Serbs have only two conditions:

1. Polish-Serbian alliance should be military neutral on other military alliances. It mean, Polish-Serbian alliance shouldn`t be nor anti-Russian, nor anti-western parts of Europe. Simple, neutral. Rely neutral;

2. Poland must support integrity of Serbian nation and right of Catholic Serbs to be declared as Serbs, what is now forbidden in Greater Croatia. In order to deal with this problem Polish Catholics should help in Serbian-Vatican communication;

Polish-Serbian alliance with time can become Confederation, with Polish language as official. Serbs would support even that, i`m sure and, Serbs would support Warsaw to become capital of Confederation. Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenians would follow.

So, Russians aren`t problem. Poles should focus, that`s all.


@ What you want? @

Go found yourself some goat and free yourself from frustrations. To put cross on myself [incredible how germanization affecting human brain]

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


If one isn`t familiar with situation, one shouldn`t lure himself in discussion about Serbian-Croatian problems. So, i would explain...

Let Croats show respect on Catholic and Orthodox Serbs on Balkan. Croats stealing Serbian heritage (culture, language, buildings, graveyards,...) and declare it as Croatian in order to strengthen Greater Croatia- German puppet state.

First problems occurred after Catholic Croats harmed Catholic Serbs and for that got support from Catholic and Protestant Germans. In fact Croats were instrumentalized by Germanics to do so. Just later, Orthodox Serbs becomes target of Catholic Croats, again because of German/Austrian schemes. Again because German schemes, Orthodox Bulgarians turned against Orthodox Serbs.

Problem isn`t Catholicism or Orthodoxy, at least not from Serbian side. Problem is violent and aggressive German attempt to control region, while Serbs represent only force that defending Slavic interests in the region, both- Polish and Russian. Its historical fact

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


Serbs are old core. i am proud to it. All Slavs are aware of it. But, in this very moment Poland should be leading force and Serbs should help to Poland.

Russia can only profit from strengthening of Poland and increased Polish role in Slavic world. i sense that. Russia itself should be redirected to look to Poland and shouldn`t be selfish here.


in global game, Slavic Poland can`t survive without Serbs

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


just rely on Serbs in Polish-Czech misunderstandings and you shall see how new Poland arising. Serbs would explain to Czechs. Only Serbs makes the difference.

Vast resources of Slavija should be under Slavic control.

Now, Warsaw... what shall be!? Death in silence or attempt for eternal glory?

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]

this is how it is...

Serbians desperately need Polish help. On the other side, without Serbs, Poland would for sure died in silence

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


Catholicism is Catholicism, Orthodoxy is Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy isn`t more Slavic then Catholicism and the opposite

after all, i see Poland as Slavic Poland. Other are technical details

But, let me underline that today, in Christianity, we- Slavs have far less religious differences then in ancient time when practically every house/family/clan had its own spirits, every sub-region had its own local Gods, etc, etc. So, i don`t have problems with technical details. Those details were not important to Racowie (Serbians) in the middle age and aren`t important to the modern day Serbs.

Poles are good Slavs and that`s enough to me. This way or another, Poland is hope

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]


let`s not about creature Tusk. This is noble thread dedicated to Poland as great Slavic Mother

History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]

Kashubs are ok. Tusk is mistake of nature

History / Polish-German alliance. [489]


if you ask me- its playing with the divil situation

Biggest Poland`s hope is.... that Ukraine and Russia solve their problems, that they consolidate as democratic powers, that Ukraine and Poland solve their opened questions, that Baltic remain at least neutral on Poland, that Czech Rep. and Slovakia strenghten and that Serbia consolidates and again increase her influence on Balkan.

All that because `devil will go mad one day` as it is always with the devils. But, with consolidated situation in her Slavic neighborhood, on her northern, eastern and south-eastern borders and with her traditional partners (Balkan Serbs) in decisively important European strategic region such is Balkan, Poland can survive and even profit, even expand her borders... after devil`s schemes collapse

History / Polish-German alliance. [489]

Germans and Turks are one. Being in alliance with Germans means being in alliance with Turks

Russians played their schemes with Germans but refused to play with Turks. That`s why Russians are cursed by so called west

Now, Russians must end their schemes with Germans. Its stupid if Poles now start. It would be ironic

News / Warsaw Frederic Chopin Airport to close in September [27]


forget EU. Call for Serbian experts

Serbian airports were operative immediately just after NATO bombing in 1999