News / Germany's Socio-Political Climate and Its Impact on Poland [122]



Again....when they can't change things....why the heck do you fear them so much?

PS: There is one thing that puzzles me....you know, the "safe third-country rule"....imagine the AfD really following that law, truly shoving everybody back out who enters german soil through another safe democratic country, our neighbours! No big change, no new law...just truly implementing an already existing law....man! :)

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News / Germany's Socio-Political Climate and Its Impact on Poland [122]


That is highly inefficient if anybody who comes through still can claim asylum and start the whole process!

Much much much more efficient will be to cut these promises in the first place...no more free money for any newcomer...no more "pull factors"! If they still think it a good idea to start the asylum process they get only the necessary things, food, water, a roof over the head, nothing more...and especially no longer free access to all the social goods even without having worked for it one day!

You will see the freeloader running....looking elsewhere for greener (!) pastures!

And don't you dare to repeat the LIE these pull-factors don't exist, or that our economy will break down without Ali the delivery guy or Hassan the old-arse-wiper, these jobs are not popular with them, they have mostly other plans....these people don't wander over half of the globe to enjoy our great weather, our famous language or our incredible friendliness....the german generosity has become world wide known....and now our social system is breaking down because of it!

Just imagine all the money right now paid for millions of foreigners becoming available again for our retirees or our health care...."two birds with one stone"!


Thing is our law of asylum is much rather made for Ukrainians, they are Europeans fleeing a european war....it was never meant for North Africans or Arabs!


Agreed! And especially without the blanket of uncountable regulations which only make lawyer happy but stifle and kill slowly every entrepreneur spirit...

News / Germany's Socio-Political Climate and Its Impact on Poland [122]

.......and wanting to be conquered by Russia and ruled by Putin, not to forget! :)


....yeah....maybe....I'm actually alot more invested in their ideas and plans against inner german problems than their formulated foreign policy. Especially as they have no way to do anything about it for the foreseeable future.

I guess thats the way most interested observer and even voter handle that...

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Any links for that?

Astounding that you have so much understanding for the pro-russian Lefties in the RULING SPD aka "Das Russland-Manifest", but expect the apocalypse when the AfD does it???


tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/spd-verteidigung-manifest-ukraine-100.html

The SPD with their Stegners and Mützenichs is part of a ruling coalition in Berlin...which will have no qualms to ally with the Linke, if need be, whose standing concerning Ukraine/Putin is at least contested inside the party too.

But the AfD is the main problem? REALLY?

....can't help it Tac...but that sounds alot like "fearmongering!" I guess we will only know for sure when they really get a say....

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I had to google that actually! But there seems to be a shift of opinion/mood inside the AfD:


sueddeutsche.de/politik/afd-russland-afd-fraktion-chrupalla-li.3253054?reduced=true

The AfD is on its way to a "Volkspartei"...it seems natural that there are now more moderate and also radical opinions represented.

The general problem for the leadership seems to be (IMHO of course), the promise to their voters to rebuild our safe energy supply. In short: "Give us our russian gas back....and down with the annoying wind mills, up with the power plants again!"

That war in Ukraine is hence nothing but an annoyance, thats not the same as supporting Putin's invasion....but for a future good relationship with Russia they can hardly blast him like nearly everybody else does....quite the pickle for the AfD....

On the other side (and there is always one)....the AfD is not alone in seeking a better relationship with Moscow, and compared to the SPD she hasn't even the same kind of longstanding contacts yet aka "Petersburger Dialog"...I bet they were talking about Ukraine too...albeit inofficially and secretly....of course!


spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/spd-abgeordneter-ralf-stegner-kam-mit-putin-vertrauten-bei-geheimtreffen-in-baku-zusammen-a-0b114129-541b-4bc7-837a-5012292f86e5

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1440]


I'm honest I'm no expert with french politics...but I remember Marco Wanderwitz, an especially outspoken pro AfD-Verbot former CDU politician, being asked what exactly should such a Verbot gain the other parties...he answered summarily: "Time!" That a ban will make it possible for the current parties and politicians and elites to turn the wheel around at last and rebuild the country and with that also the trust in the democratic institutions."(My free summary)

And now looking at France, it doesn't seem that all that banding together and keeping out and "Kampf gegen Rechts" has changed the country for the better in any way...


How so? LePen opening the Gulags? Weidel invading Poland and gassing Jews? What exactly do you fear so much???

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1440]


...you can't choose your family though! :)

I'm just glad they are willing to discuss things here...in Germany I will even be called a Nazi for my views and questions and no upstanding democrat talks with "Nazis", so....I don't complain!

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1440]


I doubt it very much....I remember the start of the AfD as an anti-Euro party, they never got seen and treated eye-to-eye, as a common political rival....they were never left enough!

I also remember the latest french elections where all the french centrists/leftists banded together to keep LePen out....and these big demos ala "Kampf gegen Rechts" from all these upstanding leftists....sounds familiar? And where stands France now....on the break of internal collapse...

But of course we will repeat all these errors...for democracy!

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....somehow I also can see the numbers of immigrants going down without the AfD....the globally known bad and even further sinking german economy will keep many from trying their luck here!

yippee yippee yay 😕

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1440]


My....how the mighty have fallen....I remember the Greens quite recently still seeing themselves as a "Chancellor Party" :)


Agreed....and the coalitions needed to keep the AfD out will become ever bigger and wilder over time....making even more people angry and frustrated....


Because they have to...everything for democracy, right?

In Chorweiler the AfD got candidate over 45%...the Green candidate got only 5, something....


t-online.de/region/koeln/id_100913990/wahl-in-koeln-hier-holt-afd-kandidat-fast-die-haelfte-aller-stimmen.html


Really Tac....the AfD is kept away from any ruling by the good and upstanding Democrats....still blaming them for the state of things is...well...astounding!

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....I dunno about the english problem regions...but even the german public-service broadcasting portrays them that way, as one could see daily in the run up to these elections...I don't want to live there, sorry to say that!

And the examples that its bad governance mainly are also shown...I remember the doku about one town gov taking care to supplant the leaving old industry with modern technology jobs...and it worked.

But mainly the for decades inherited power structures elsewhere mostly never gave a ***!

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1440]


....and that! Should be really difficult for the AfD.....NRW has become such a poor, criminal ghetto like run down place in big parts....even ruled continously for decades by the SPD, the CDU and even by the Greens recently...

The argument the AfD will be worse is somehow not so convincing if you have to live there!

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1440]


You don't call that a big fat middle finger from the people in NRW?

Of course all are winning but the AfD...these losers! 😎

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1440]

...erm....yeah...the Greens lost lotsa voters and the AfD gained lotsa voters and even overtook them in NRW....totally alike! 🙄

I really see that in the future coming....the remains of the SPD and Greens together with the CDU and even the Linke having to band together and build unworkable, unnatural coaltions to keep them in power even if barely so....

That won't be a nice picture and will damage our democracy heavily!

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1440]


...from 5,1% in 2020...compared to the Greens from 20% down to 13%....I wonder for which party their voters have left them for?

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1440]

Seriously!

All parties combined like a.....say....one big state party? And winning?

The AfD has their numbers tripled...in western red heartland.....if that counts as victory for the gov I don't wanna see them losing!

PS: I personally like the kick in the ass for the Greens...they are well on their way to a an also-ran party....well deserved!

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Sadly not....

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


When have we ever switched sides??? We always lost our wars on one and the same side only, till the bitter end...

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]

Is the second sign real out of a shop? Thats so cool! 🤣

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Nah.....german humour....you know....we still need to work on THAT! *goes practising to be funny*


So there....so much better....a dream! :)

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]

Your "at least" is kinda funny....with Germany on your side NOBODY will ever conquer you again....JAWOLL! :)

PS: Nobody non-german that is of course...

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]

..ahem...

*hops up and down*

*waves wildly*

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


I know....you are my first choice for asking...it's a serious question, no doubt and I thank you very much for your answer...*bows*

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]

Got a question from another thread for you Torqi:

If Alien would be and post as some Mohammed from Germany (with the same texts and him owning a german passport), would you also treat him like a "volksdeutsch"?

How would that change your perception of him and his postings? Would they change at all compared to some Dieter or Katrin?

Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [161]


Alien started with the US as positive example of a working multikulti society...but even they were not multikulti! The defining groups were Europeans...from different european countries, but Europeans...even when adversaries and rivals, they build the US on a european heritage!

What today immigrates into european-shaped societies is decidedly non-european, coming from far away places...no common heritage at all...culturally, traditionally, religiously not my kin!

The native-Americans know that feeling better, I guess...

Good night all, I'm bowing out for the night!

Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [161]

Humanity did always run in packs...in groups....in tribes...thats what we are used to, what our instincts scream for.

Living in some undefined mush, were people want to rule you who have nothing to do with you and your kin only works in "good" times...in times of so much abundance that nobody truly cares who gets how much of what, were people met/immigrated in for the money only in the first place....but that changes immediately in difficult times....this mush is not for the hard times, that is no nation.

Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [161]


Commonly, usually yes....that's how it worked all these centuries! But in a future with a thrown together undefined mush? Who cares, and why should they care in the first place, they have no part in a common past anylonger.

And you know how they say....no past - no future!

Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [161]

.....multikulti has failed as a lefty vision, that all mix peacefully and build something new, this concept is not working, people don't work that way....its after all not only the genes, its the HERITAGE! The culture, the history, the past, the whole thing which makes a people!

And the former home countries don't just vanish, these people come with a whole culture, history, religion themselves....and people just don't change heritages like a jeans!

Now back to my former question in post #148...and don't play stupid, Alien!

Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [161]


What??? I doubt that any Afghan, Pakistani or North African counts himself as white, as of european race/culture/heritage!

....and why do you avoid my questions?