Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Who cares? It's their personal business. There are 12 guys in our poker club; a couple are gay and they're good guys. The rest of us couldn't care less and no, they don't swish.


Same answer, who cares? Besides, I don't like the diamond industry.


It's up to them, maybe they're both girls, or both boys, whatever.


Have I mentioned who cares yet?
That should be the standard for heterosexual unions as well, shouldn't be just the man buying stuff (like diamond rings).

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


It takes a thoughtful and introspective person to understand my position(s). Evidently, you are not that person.

So many, usually western women have taken a wrong turn when it comes to their supposed "empowerment" and other "political correctness" issues; and of course hatred of men thanks to feminism. No need to go over the myriad of misandrist quotes constantly spewed out by feminist leaders now. (For example, my daughter walked out of a gender studies class at the Univ. of Minnesota because she couldn't stand the constant anti-male rhetoric in it).


No!


Perhaps you can continue this conversation with yourself then.


Not really. If a man spends a lot on the initial dates then the woman will usually assume that's how it's going to be. I recommend that men go 'dutch' on the first date. If a woman finds this unacceptable then you can at least let her know that you are disappointed on how not "empowered" or "independent" she is. After all, isn't that the feminist mantra?


Not necessarily. The average women expects to be treated to dinner and other entertainments. That's been the custom.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Same theme whether it's low maintenance, high maintenance, sometimes maintenance or whatever. Women inherently want freebies of some sort. After all, aren't they the center of the universe?

Now, can you imagine if men acted this way? Dating would become obsolete except to the most truly advanced men and women who stopped playing this female 'gimme game'.

Women will howl at my comments but deep down they know the objective truth. They just don't want to give up their culturally structured advantages while hypocritically crying "discrimination" at the drop of a hat.

Like the inspector Captain Renault in the movie, "Casablanca". They pretend to be "shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


I charge for the imaginative ones. The others you get free.


Yes indeed, you are quite the prosaic and erudite writer. This example of your fertile imagination is quite revealing.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Yea, what is it? Be specific! (if you're referring to sex then you are hopelessly out of date).
Also, it's proof of how materialistic women are in preferring diamonds to human interaction.


I've often stated how women are the ones who seem to have a need to be the center of attention. My latest is in post #58 where I note; "it means the woman is the center of attention. It's in your genes." Your comment suggests that you agree with me, perhaps without you even knowing it.

The modern woman feels she should retain all traditional benefits and protections while demanding false pick-and-choose equality and giving up none of her habitual privileges.

That's the true definition of sexism and women have it in higher percentages than men.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


That begs the queston; why do women get the big diamond and men don't? ...which corresponds with women 'needing' to be the center of attention in this and in so many other venues.


Madam, I doth not bellow for I am quite the mellow fellow.


I suspect there is more steel in me. The rest is composed of empathy, optimism and of course my two favorites; logic and modesty.


Feelings need to be gripped otherwise they grip you.
Besides, any mental activity is easy if it doesn't take reality into account.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


I've already hit it out-of-the-ballpark.


Well, duh!


There was this priest and he was in a church and this woman was waiting in front of the alter all dressed in white and ............


Yep, it means the woman is the center of attention. It's in your genes.


How spiritual. ...brings a tear to my eye.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Is that all you can think about? Do try to elevate your level of discourse and at least try not to concern yourself with my sex life. I know it's difficult but really, try.


Deceit is a terrible thing but I don't feel like discussing the many times (some) women purposefully got pregnant when they weren't supposed to. Wealthy men in particular are vulnerable.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Your post #39 where you state; "hahahahaha....ahem...sorry, i shouldn't be laughing...."


Since you are the only poster who enjoyed the poor guy being picked on by his wife while no other poster has, it is most appropriate to show the evidence as it exists. Hopefully, you are not paid for your logic at your place of employment. Do you have a job where thinking isn't important? Perhaps you work for the government?

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Absolutely! That's not even an issue ...but that doesn't change the fact that you laugh at people who are verbally or otherwise abused. I don't and no other poster here has either which puts you at the lowest of the low. At least you're number one in something, despicable as it is.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]

I don't laugh at people who are in a relationship where they are picked on or verbally abused. You do, so judge for yourself as to how low you are.

Speaking of womanly entitlements, here is an interesting case.

ifeminists.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.587

From the link: "29-year-old Eric Williamson says he walked into his kitchen to make coffee. Since he was home alone, he didn't bother getting dressed. A woman and a young boy walking outside saw Williamson through the window and called police. Investigators then arrested Williamson because they believe he wanted people outside to see him naked. But Williamson says that's not the case. He says he should be able to walk around naked in the privacy of his own home. If convicted, Williamson could face up to a year in jail and a $2,000 fine."

"I note that the man's name is disclosed; in some stories his photo is included. I note the woman is given anonymity even though she cannot be considered off-limits -- e.g. as a rape victim. This gender bias is typical in the reporting of most sex incidents.

--the arrest is also typically gender biased. If a man had made the same call about a woman who was naked in her own home, he would have been arrested as a Peeping Tom.

--the woman was trespassing on Williamson's property -- she cut across his front yard -- yet no charges were brought against her"

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


That's true and in a previous thread I noted that much of this is evolutionary. Problem is, with feminism and "PC" things have gotten much worse and women are now also told that they are "empowered" (how I hate that word in any kind of usage) and they are told they can "have it all". This is delusional but the 'feel good' aspect blinds women. That's also why there is a mini-marriage strike in the U.S as more and more men are sick and tired of their irrational demands.

That article by Lisa Pavtzow, a female writer is spot on although she states it more gently than I do.


With or without cellulite?


That's alright, you're a feminist so you don't know better.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


That's poppycock! You sound like a mangina.


Now you've got something. Women are indeed programmed by our "politically correct" institutions to feel 'entitled'. That's one reason why women marry up much more frequently than men. That's another reason why women expect diamond rings when they become engaged. ... that's why weddings are much more focused on the female who prefers to be the center of attention;... the list goes on (when you think about it).

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


A couple of days ago the Chicago Tribune had an interesting article by Lisa Pavtzow titled; "Looking just for Mr. Right is still the wrong move".

chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-x-0312-balance-column-20100312,0,5431404.story

From the article: "In a survey, women told ... that getting 80 percent of what they wanted in a mate would be "settling." Men, on the other hand, called finding a woman with 80 percent of what they wanted "a catch." All they really looked for on the first date was someone reasonably cute, kind and interesting to talk to. The women came up with a list of 300 deal breakers.For these women, settling meant accepting not much less than everything,"

Yes indeed ladies; you are so "entitled".....and proof that men are much more reasonable.

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]

Well, we should have given them some of our brains instead :)

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


Glad you are finding that blog informative; perhaps there is hope for you being a 21st century woman after all.

As to the Titanic, just a reminder:

British women who survived the Titanic’s sinking testified that their husbands calmly put them on lifeboats and did not fight for their own lives. On that particular ship, 114 women died, 324 women survived: 72% of the women survived. 1339 men died, 325 men survived: 19% of the men survived. Yet, one woman actually brought out the fact that more men survived than women (325 to 324) which proved to her that the men were "selfish". How's that for female logic? Amazing!

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


I highly recommend you enroll in a debate class but first take some courses in logic. Some yoga classes would also help temper your angst. Good luck.


I understand the "empowered" and "entitled" modern day woman (feminist) only too well. Women who are not hung up on their own sexism agree with me, but then, they are secure women and not the misandrists.


Unfortunately, too many men allow themselves to be manipulated. Human nature being what it is, many if not most women take advantage of such men (manginas) who prefer to remain enfeebled. Real men do not self emasculate themselves.


Is that how the Titanic went down?

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]

You're not the only female in these forums who is more comfortable with 'her fancy'' instead of objective facts. No surprise.

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


From your link: "A woman named Clara Zetkin (Leader of the 'Women's Office' for the Social Democratic Party in Germany) tabled the idea of an International Women's Day."

From my link: "Clara Zetkin was an influential socialist German politician and a fighter for women’s rights. Until 1917, she was active in the Social Democratic Party of Germany, then she joined the Independent Social Democratic Party of Germany (USPD) and its far-left wing, the Spartacist League; this later became the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), which she represented in the Reichstag during the Weimar Republic from 1920 to 1933."

Feminism is just Marxism in drag.

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


I have a nice condo just off the lake, thank you.

As to 'giving' -- women buy stuff for themselves and then claim they did it for their man.
Men don't think that way!

Women's day origins:
the-spearhead.com/2010/03/08/the-marxist-origins-of-international-womens-day

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]



Just two more examples of how 'fabulous' women think themselves to be. ... and notice guys, how women push sex when it suits them?

This is also an example of something that is happening more frequently; without knowing it women are admitting to their narcissism while pretending to be above it all.

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


Yes we do; it would be a nice change from the usual. It would also teach women the art of giving. A set of golf clubs would be nice.

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]

f stop: "if she was a man, he would be called ambitious. A real go-getter."

Once again you have it exactly backwards. Men who make their living in this manner are frowned upon. You really should stop using archaic feminist excuses like your response above; it's so 80's.


Do something about your sex addiction; perhaps some 12-step program would help. Why you let women take advantage of you like this is a repellent trait; a weakness.

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]


Your refusal to answer Southerns' direct question was telling.


Yes indeed, that's never happened in these forums before.


Lol, you haven't budged a bit; you ignore inconvenient facts but that's how some people handle things; in a state of denial.


Did you mean 'hole'?
See what happens when your blood pressure goes up?

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]

Truth is not 'relative' and therefore does not change depending on the forum. Of course with liberals and feminists objective truth is indeed 'relative', and slippery.

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]


This seems to be a consensus from the men (here). Doesn't say much for the majority of the female population and of course they have only themselves to blame as so many women have overplayed their dirty and torn gender card.

That's right guys; give women a taste of real equality and not the pick-and-choose kind that has been so detrimental. This generation of women (1960's - 2010) will be treated harshly by historians as the most selfish ("entitled"- "empowered") bunch of whiners since Eve.

The ancients knew more about this than the current "PC" generation which has taken a huge step backwards.

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]


Ah yes, 45+ year-old single females living with their cats is sad. Yet, I continually run into so many who still feel 'entitled' because that's what our feminized culture has been telling women for several decades now. Yet they wonder why the men they want keep rejecting them.

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]

Of course women, whether they are Polish or not will press for men who are 'security objects'.

In the past year a Spanish woman I knew was constantly 'available' for me, even when I was ducking her (please note that I stated it with a "d" and not an "f"). This scenario is replayed daily and alpha males are more than aware of the potential troubles women like this are likely to cause.

Conversely, women 'feel' that merely giving of themselves (sex) is sufficient. It's not ladies; women are 50% of the population, therefore, it isn't as if women are a rarity. It's noticeable that even younger men are finally expecting more from women; after all, isn't that what equality is about?

History / Kashubians are nation in Poland? [124]

Bratwurst Boy:
The problem is that they have started to murder Poles there...
They wouldn't if the borders had stayed as they were!

Since this latest round of geographic musical chairs was started by Germany and the Soviets in 1939 then perhaps Germans can talk the Russians into giving Poland the 'old' eastern borders back; then those displaced Germans might have something to talk about.

Come to think of it, those partitions in the late 1700's were also started by Polands neighbors to the west and east (and Austria too).

Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]

Women are women; doesn't matter much if they are Polish, Irish, Macedonian, or Brazilian (well, there's a story there but perhaps some other time).

In general, when deciding on marriage women practice hypergamy. This evolutionary instinct is tempered as women age because women's (sexual) power is at its height when they are young (fertile). In short, womens standards drop as they get older and they realize that the top 10 per cent (of) males are not interested in them.

A woman's best bet is marriage and it's best when she marries young (exceptions duly noted). That's because a woman's social power declines after child-bearing age as does the dubious area and appeal of 'beauty'.

Traditional marriage had some advantages for men as well but these have been eroded by discriminatory judicial systems and laws which favor women and discriminate against men.

Today's men are rightfully wary of entering into the marriage contract which binds men in a multitude of ways especially after a divorce (women initiate 70% of all divorces) and when children are involved.

There seems to be a mini-marriage strike by men, especially in the U.S. It's more difficult to get men to bite on that baited hook after these past 4 decades of "politically correct"

feminist driven culture which has stripped men of their masculinity. Men are told they must do this, but can't do that, etc. Women are told they can do anything but without the responsibility that men continue to have. We are now seeing the tragic results as evidenced by single parent families raising their children who are more prone to becoming drug addicts and/or criminals.

It is enlightening to see that even men in these threads have seen the light.