Language / Which books do native Polish people in Poland use to learn Polish? [72]

Terrific, kaprys:-) Will have to ck. those out as well.

Language / Which books do native Polish people in Poland use to learn Polish? [72]

The primer was from the Gierek Era, but I was only learning during the early 9O's:-)

Language / Which books do native Polish people in Poland use to learn Polish? [72]

It was nearly thirty years back!

Language / Which books do native Polish people in Poland use to learn Polish? [72]

It was long ago and so Maf might be right.

Language / Which books do native Polish people in Poland use to learn Polish? [72]

For Poles learning their own language, naturally. Always best for serious foreign learners to learn the target language IN the target language!

Language / Which books do native Polish people in Poland use to learn Polish? [72]

"PRACOWITA MATKA" has no ancillary audio-visual materials included of which I am aware. Moreover, the grammar was very thorough, if unidiomatic:-)

Language / Which books do native Polish people in Poland use to learn Polish? [72]

I used a primer for native speakers daating way back to the Communist days, probably from the '7O's, entitled "PRACOWITA MATKA"..

Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]

Nawzajemnie, Joker LOL You (conveniently) missed my point. A Frenchman, Italian, Swede, even a German, in all likelihood wouldn't have eyed me with such mistrust. In addition, the woman was practically my age:-) Furthermore, 5O+ is scarcely that "over the hill". Finally, in what language, pray, ought I have entrusted an involved transaction anyway? She dealt almost exclusively with Polish clients to boot.

History / What Poland expected from western Europe? [78]

Pachamama. Is that anywhere near Panama? LOL

History / What Poland expected from western Europe? [78]

Poles consider themselves Europeans!

History / What Poland expected from western Europe? [78]

Yet St. Petrus is buried in Wieczne Miasto, not in Czestochowa:-)

History / What Poland expected from western Europe? [78]

The differences are negligible, but I do concede you may have a point, albeit a minor one.

History / What Poland expected from western Europe? [78]

Spot on, Maf! @Novi, I read #9 at least onceLOL As regards Mickiewicz, this is a dismaying reflection on the typically post-'6Os trend towards making learning "relevant", whatever the heck that means. Used to be in this country that just because someone worked with their hands didn't mean they didn't work with their minds!

History / What Poland expected from western Europe? [78]

Novi: When were those lovely buildings in the Old Town built? Average Pole: No. Not old houses, because much Polish now living in other towns of Poland.... And you claim the run-of- the-mill Pole knows "fluent" English?? Even their German would be better:-)

History / What Poland expected from western Europe? [78]

BS! If the language in question isn't natural aka idiomatically correct, then it's essentially worthless.

History / What Poland expected from western Europe? [78]

@Novi, you can "phase out" a language, but not a culture - which informs a language and always has. Superimposing some metalanguage onto an already existing mother tongue of millions, in your example English onto Polish, German, what have you, is not only idiotic and ethnocentric, but impossible! Poles will never learn to communicate as an educated Anglo-Saxon native speaker.

Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]

Good luck finding many, that is, who would freely admit they speak it! A clannish bunch I must say.

Just an afterthought, people. Went on a Skype call with my Polish acqaintance here in Fort Lee not long after the virus broke, and we were on face time with her fiancee at an outdoor venue in the center of Gdansk. The casual passers by looked seemingly diverse to me. Noticed a number of blacks blending easily with the crowd:-)

Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]

I can only concur with Pawian. When last in the Polonia Bookstore aka Ksiegarnia Polska in Greenpoint, a mere month or so pre-Covid, the lady behind the register kept glancing at me as though I were a common thief. I greeted her in Polish, conducted the purchase transaction solely in Polish, yet nothing changed her suspicious behavior.

Po polsku / Kobiety odrzucają politykę kościoła [56]

Ludzie skrzykneli "UFAC KOBIETOM, NIE PEDOFILOM!"

Po polsku / Kobiety odrzucają politykę kościoła [56]

Ale dlaczego nie? @Nie, Novi. Ciekawy jestem:-)

History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

Six million is only fiction if you're in deniaI.

History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

That's it, way to go there Vesko! Make stuff up, then blame the victim. Brilliant.

Polonia / Behaviour of Polish migrant workers in the Netherlands [43]

During the '7O's, Híspanics, especially Puerto Ricans, were similarly castigated as rude, asocial eye sores on New York City, low-level migrants who often refused to learn our national language. The comments offered by non- Hispanic neighbors and fellow New Yorkers (erstwhile Nieuw AmsterdammersLOL) read much as Schaapje's.

Polonia / Behaviour of Polish migrant workers in the Netherlands [43]

A generalization consists in the nature of labelling a group of people, any people.

Polonia / Behaviour of Polish migrant workers in the Netherlands [43]

Not sure I quite see your point, Novichok. A blanket generalization remains just that, be it by Dutch about Poles or vice versa.What do you mean precisely?

Polonia / Behaviour of Polish migrant workers in the Netherlands [43]

Naturally it would be as equally unfair to judge ALL Poles by the standards of semi - educated mígrant laborers as it would to judge ALL Dutch by soccer hooligans and vacationers to Grand Canaria, often getting rip-roaring drunk, then trashing hotel rooms etc. along with other fun stuff LOL English?? Wonder how many of those beauties would ever think to speak a word of Spanish:)

Polonia / Behaviour of Polish migrant workers in the Netherlands [43]

Schaapje, merely wondering as to how you personally would rate the attempts of those Poles to learn Dutch. Surely it's easier to converse comprehensibly in your native language:-)

News / How do Poles feel about Biden? [59]

Duda's rightist style is clearly at odds with Biden's freewheeling liberalism. Could you imagine Bernie and Pan Andrzej, even if his grandfolks were from Poland? :-)

News / How do Poles feel about Biden? [59]

I think that Biden will be far less toxic in international relations than Trump.