Lyzko
3 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
Just sent you a private mail in that regard:-)
Just sent you a private mail in that regard:-)
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
To be noted here too the root "ob + DAR + owany" > 'da[wa]c' =to give, literally "present" = that which is given cf. Russian "padarek" with Polish "prezent"
:-)
To be noted here too the root "ob + DAR + owany" > 'da[wa]c' =to give, literally "present" = that which is given cf. Russian "padarek" with Polish "prezent"
:-)
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]
Indeed.
The Teutonic Knights journeyed as far as former Livonia.
Sergei Eisenstein shows their cruelty in his epic "Alexander Nevsky" (1938) with Nikolai Cherkassov. Certain scenes though of babies being consigned to the flames of those being burned at the stake might though have been apocryphal.
Indeed.
The Teutonic Knights journeyed as far as former Livonia.
Sergei Eisenstein shows their cruelty in his epic "Alexander Nevsky" (1938) with Nikolai Cherkassov. Certain scenes though of babies being consigned to the flames of those being burned at the stake might though have been apocryphal.
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]
A Ruthenian, you mean? Hmm, the plot thickens.
A Ruthenian, you mean? Hmm, the plot thickens.
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]
He might well, Milo!
He might even be a Kaschub, a Sorb or
a Wend.
He might well, Milo!
He might even be a Kaschub, a Sorb or
a Wend.
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]
No reason not to be proud, Weimarer, so long as you're proud of the right things!
Naturally, no thinking German is proud of Hitler, rather, it's an eternal source of bruising shame.
However, when one thinks back on such luminaries such as Leibniz, Kepler, Semmelweiss, Koch, Behring, Oberst, Beethoven, Goethe, Grunewald, Durer, Stoss, Tilman Riemschneider and innumerable others in science, research, music, medicine, literature, theater and so on, one may indeed swell with pride.
Back to your statement at the beginning of the post. Jews weren't permitted by the Catholic Church to participate in being a member of the society in which they were living. They couldn't join tradesmen's guilds or even the army. Therefore, they were condemned to exist on the periphery of society, hence held responsible for the Plague, among other things, rumors and lies were spread about them.
No reason not to be proud, Weimarer, so long as you're proud of the right things!
Naturally, no thinking German is proud of Hitler, rather, it's an eternal source of bruising shame.
However, when one thinks back on such luminaries such as Leibniz, Kepler, Semmelweiss, Koch, Behring, Oberst, Beethoven, Goethe, Grunewald, Durer, Stoss, Tilman Riemschneider and innumerable others in science, research, music, medicine, literature, theater and so on, one may indeed swell with pride.
Back to your statement at the beginning of the post. Jews weren't permitted by the Catholic Church to participate in being a member of the society in which they were living. They couldn't join tradesmen's guilds or even the army. Therefore, they were condemned to exist on the periphery of society, hence held responsible for the Plague, among other things, rumors and lies were spread about them.
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
Not sure if you know any German, Forum User, but Polish, like English, doesn't always make the same distinction between "being"/to be = byc vs.
"becoming"/to become = zostac. "Stac sie", a reflexive verb, also means "to become", but "byc" and "zostac" are sometimes used in the passive voice + Instrumental, e.g. "Byc aktorem" = to be an actor, "zostac profesorem" = to become a professor etc.
There's a lot to say on this subject.
Back to your question.
"On BYL zdenerwowany." = He got really unnerved. is probably more common than "On ZOSTAL zdenerwowany." Then again, Polish in my experience is more
likely to use the active rather than the passive voice.
"Zgubilem moj portefel." = I/I've lost my billfold. vs. "Moj portefel byl zgubiony" = My billfold got lost.
Not sure if you know any German, Forum User, but Polish, like English, doesn't always make the same distinction between "being"/to be = byc vs.
"becoming"/to become = zostac. "Stac sie", a reflexive verb, also means "to become", but "byc" and "zostac" are sometimes used in the passive voice + Instrumental, e.g. "Byc aktorem" = to be an actor, "zostac profesorem" = to become a professor etc.
There's a lot to say on this subject.
Back to your question.
"On BYL zdenerwowany." = He got really unnerved. is probably more common than "On ZOSTAL zdenerwowany." Then again, Polish in my experience is more
likely to use the active rather than the passive voice.
"Zgubilem moj portefel." = I/I've lost my billfold. vs. "Moj portefel byl zgubiony" = My billfold got lost.
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
Genealogy / Polish & Prussian/German town name cross-reference. [100]
Both of the latter two also have German equivalents, Gneissen and Bromberg:-)
Both of the latter two also have German equivalents, Gneissen and Bromberg:-)
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
You see. I knew what I heard, but haste caused an idiotic typo!
Learned the above nearly my second half of first year PolishLOL
)))
You see. I knew what I heard, but haste caused an idiotic typo!
Learned the above nearly my second half of first year PolishLOL
)))
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]
Although whether Germans actually BECAME Christians in their hearts, souls, and minds, whether or not they truly internalized both the teachings of Christ, later of St. Francis, definitely cannot be gleaned from the savagery with which, post-(failed) Enlightenment, Germany aka the Nazi Era, descended so rapidly, then unrepenetently, into the depths of pagan barbarism.
Historians, both German non-Jewish such as Dieter Zimmer, Hajo Holborn, along with numerous others, continue to puzzle over this same question.
When push came to shove, far too many rank-and-file Germans chose to push out their Jewish fellow citizens (as Luther himself had foretold) and shove them into gas chambers!
If you don't believe me, you have only to read Christopher Browning's best seller, "Ordinary Men", as well as Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's "Hitler's Willing Executioners". I'm sure they're available in German.
Although whether Germans actually BECAME Christians in their hearts, souls, and minds, whether or not they truly internalized both the teachings of Christ, later of St. Francis, definitely cannot be gleaned from the savagery with which, post-(failed) Enlightenment, Germany aka the Nazi Era, descended so rapidly, then unrepenetently, into the depths of pagan barbarism.
Historians, both German non-Jewish such as Dieter Zimmer, Hajo Holborn, along with numerous others, continue to puzzle over this same question.
When push came to shove, far too many rank-and-file Germans chose to push out their Jewish fellow citizens (as Luther himself had foretold) and shove them into gas chambers!
If you don't believe me, you have only to read Christopher Browning's best seller, "Ordinary Men", as well as Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's "Hitler's Willing Executioners". I'm sure they're available in German.
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
Context notwithstanding, Maf, yes, Ziemowit, I see what you mean!
Probably, "Czy moglby (better:...chcialby) Pan zobaczyc.....?" works much better, yes?
Thanks:-)
Context notwithstanding, Maf, yes, Ziemowit, I see what you mean!
Probably, "Czy moglby (better:...chcialby) Pan zobaczyc.....?" works much better, yes?
Thanks:-)
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
Aspects (as opposed to "tenses") requiring the "perfective" or "dokonany" reflect the ONE-TIME completion of an action.
Just briefly with yet another example sentence or two, if you walk into a restaurant, the waitress might well ask, "Czy moze Pan zobaczyc menu/jadlospis?" = Would you like to SEE the menu, sir?
In English, there's considerable leeway in this regard. Save for sarcasm, everybody understands perfectly that the waitress or whoever knows that one can "see" the menu, unless of course they're blind!:-) Therefore, there's no substantive difference between "Would you like to SEE....." vs. "Would you like to TAKE A LOOK AT....", or even "Would you care to GLANCE AT....." etc. The meaning is crystal clear unless the person spoken to is simply giving the wait staff a hard time.
Not so in Polish, where "Czy moze Pan widzic menu?", might indeed imply that the customer needs to "see" the menu as opposed to something else. It would be understood, but would definitely sound odd.
"widzic" (imperfective) means "to see", as in "to have the ability of sight"
"zobaczyc" (perfective) means "to take a look or glance at"
Aspects (as opposed to "tenses") requiring the "perfective" or "dokonany" reflect the ONE-TIME completion of an action.
Just briefly with yet another example sentence or two, if you walk into a restaurant, the waitress might well ask, "Czy moze Pan zobaczyc menu/jadlospis?" = Would you like to SEE the menu, sir?
In English, there's considerable leeway in this regard. Save for sarcasm, everybody understands perfectly that the waitress or whoever knows that one can "see" the menu, unless of course they're blind!:-) Therefore, there's no substantive difference between "Would you like to SEE....." vs. "Would you like to TAKE A LOOK AT....", or even "Would you care to GLANCE AT....." etc. The meaning is crystal clear unless the person spoken to is simply giving the wait staff a hard time.
Not so in Polish, where "Czy moze Pan widzic menu?", might indeed imply that the customer needs to "see" the menu as opposed to something else. It would be understood, but would definitely sound odd.
"widzic" (imperfective) means "to see", as in "to have the ability of sight"
"zobaczyc" (perfective) means "to take a look or glance at"
Lyzko
2 Mar 2020
Lyzko
1 Mar 2020
History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]
Sometimes the truth is disquieting, Milo! Sorry you can't handle it. I thought a little more of you than all that:-)
@kaprys & Ironside,
Try to be politely objective for a change and credit me with a little common sense on this topic. After all, if I weren't sure of my statements, I'd scarcely post them on open forum now, would I!
Furthermore, what makes either of you all any more of an authority on the subject than I? You know about as much of my educational/academic background as I do of yours.
Sometimes the truth is disquieting, Milo! Sorry you can't handle it. I thought a little more of you than all that:-)
@kaprys & Ironside,
Try to be politely objective for a change and credit me with a little common sense on this topic. After all, if I weren't sure of my statements, I'd scarcely post them on open forum now, would I!
Furthermore, what makes either of you all any more of an authority on the subject than I? You know about as much of my educational/academic background as I do of yours.
Lyzko
29 Feb 2020
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]
I can concur only in the latter point, to which I will gladly concede some degree of merit, if only because Israel too takes tremendous issue with those Ultra-Lubovitch Orthodox who steadfastly refuse to fight for their country, hiding behind the cloak of religion to mask their overt pacifism.
I can concur only in the latter point, to which I will gladly concede some degree of merit, if only because Israel too takes tremendous issue with those Ultra-Lubovitch Orthodox who steadfastly refuse to fight for their country, hiding behind the cloak of religion to mask their overt pacifism.
Lyzko
29 Feb 2020
News / A better Polish solution: aiding refugees in their home region [29]
The question is whether or not you relinquished your Polish citizenship:-)
The question is whether or not you relinquished your Polish citizenship:-)
Lyzko
29 Feb 2020
History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]
Yes there were.
One of the reasons many Poles, particularly from Northern Poland sometimes appear almost Germanic in facial structure has to do in part anyway with their early exposure to certain Germanic tribes.
While this hasn't all been proven one hundred percent in every instance, there is sufficient evidence nonetheless to conclude that early Polish inhabitants had definite, if not prolonged, contact with Germanic tribesmen.
Yes there were.
One of the reasons many Poles, particularly from Northern Poland sometimes appear almost Germanic in facial structure has to do in part anyway with their early exposure to certain Germanic tribes.
While this hasn't all been proven one hundred percent in every instance, there is sufficient evidence nonetheless to conclude that early Polish inhabitants had definite, if not prolonged, contact with Germanic tribesmen.
Lyzko
29 Feb 2020
Life / New born baby traditions in Poland [26]
I see, sort of the like what we would call a "bris". Name day was what I had in mind, kaprys.
Perhaps the distinction is more important in Poland than it is here in the States.
I see, sort of the like what we would call a "bris". Name day was what I had in mind, kaprys.
Perhaps the distinction is more important in Poland than it is here in the States.
Lyzko
29 Feb 2020
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1050]
Curious as to how we would translate "lajdak".
Curious as to how we would translate "lajdak".
Lyzko
29 Feb 2020
Lyzko
29 Feb 2020
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]
The "balls" to be an idiot might well be guaranteed in the Constitution, however regardless of theory, in practical, civilized society, it's usually a masquerade for ill-developed man children who are addicted to their "boys toys" as surely as they probably are to alcohol or illicit drugs!
The "balls" to be an idiot might well be guaranteed in the Constitution, however regardless of theory, in practical, civilized society, it's usually a masquerade for ill-developed man children who are addicted to their "boys toys" as surely as they probably are to alcohol or illicit drugs!
Lyzko
28 Feb 2020
Life / New born baby traditions in Poland [26]
Thanks, kaprys!
Actually, it was a naming day which was being celebrated:-)
Thanks, kaprys!
Actually, it was a naming day which was being celebrated:-)
Lyzko
28 Feb 2020
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]
Why, because maybe heaven forbid we here might learn something about self-improvement for a change??
We point our finger at Germany's Nazi past, yet we in the US can engage in a little self-reflection of our own?
We're not perfect either, believe me!
Why, because maybe heaven forbid we here might learn something about self-improvement for a change??
We point our finger at Germany's Nazi past, yet we in the US can engage in a little self-reflection of our own?
We're not perfect either, believe me!
Lyzko
28 Feb 2020
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]
Tacitus is correct!
Apart from that horrific school shooting over fifteen years ago in Erfurt, how many similar such incidents can you name having taken place in Germany??
In the US, it seems nearly every other week or so, some gun-nut goes off his head, the most recent being yesterday in Millwaukee.
Between 1964 (?) and 2005, The Federal Republic of Germany had basically TWO (2) mass shootings of the US variety:
Cologne in the mid-60's, an ex-Nazi school teacher began shooting inside his classroom, with resulting fatalities, if I recall.
Erfurt 2005, Robert Steinhausen opens fire on classmates and a teacher, killing the latter, before turning the gun on himself.
Tacitus is correct!
Apart from that horrific school shooting over fifteen years ago in Erfurt, how many similar such incidents can you name having taken place in Germany??
In the US, it seems nearly every other week or so, some gun-nut goes off his head, the most recent being yesterday in Millwaukee.
Between 1964 (?) and 2005, The Federal Republic of Germany had basically TWO (2) mass shootings of the US variety:
Cologne in the mid-60's, an ex-Nazi school teacher began shooting inside his classroom, with resulting fatalities, if I recall.
Erfurt 2005, Robert Steinhausen opens fire on classmates and a teacher, killing the latter, before turning the gun on himself.
Lyzko
27 Feb 2020
History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]
"Man of Iron" was a popular favorite at one time. There was also "Sword & Fire", but I barely remember the original name any longer or who directed it.
"Man of Iron" was a popular favorite at one time. There was also "Sword & Fire", but I barely remember the original name any longer or who directed it.
Lyzko
27 Feb 2020
History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]
Well, "Polish" refers generally to one's nationality, whereas "Pole" might be simply enumerating various nationalities, for examples, Basia's a Pole, Daniella's a German, Chuck's an American, Byung Wuk's a Korean..... as opposed to denoting that person's heritage.
As you know, somebody can be from a country in the sense of having been born there, yet NOT be technically ethnically part of that country's heritage.
Polish means the language of Poland as used in English. Guess it's all really a question of both grammatical as well as generational usage. To my ears as an American native speaker, "Are you Polish?" sounds more acceptable then "Are you a Pole?"
:-)
Well, "Polish" refers generally to one's nationality, whereas "Pole" might be simply enumerating various nationalities, for examples, Basia's a Pole, Daniella's a German, Chuck's an American, Byung Wuk's a Korean..... as opposed to denoting that person's heritage.
As you know, somebody can be from a country in the sense of having been born there, yet NOT be technically ethnically part of that country's heritage.
Polish means the language of Poland as used in English. Guess it's all really a question of both grammatical as well as generational usage. To my ears as an American native speaker, "Are you Polish?" sounds more acceptable then "Are you a Pole?"
:-)
Lyzko
27 Feb 2020
Life / New born baby traditions in Poland [26]
Yes, I remember doing so some time back when visiting a young Polish couple having recently moved to New York upon the birth of their daughter:-)
"Z okazji Waszego imienia!", was how my salutation read at the top of the card I sent them.
Yes, I remember doing so some time back when visiting a young Polish couple having recently moved to New York upon the birth of their daughter:-)
"Z okazji Waszego imienia!", was how my salutation read at the top of the card I sent them.
Lyzko
27 Feb 2020
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]
A gun, firearm, pistol or assault rifle, belongs one place and one place only: Locked inside a gun rack, either in the den out of harms way, or perhaps in the shed! Dad or mom should be the only ones with a key.
This might be considered the "East Coast elitist" way of handling gun violence. Maybe then there'd be less of it:-)
Rich,
Why label thinking people as "weasels"? Are you perhaps not projecting your own masculinity issues?
Notice I, Tacitus, Miloslaw and others here aren't out to prove on a regular basis what "tough guys" they are.
A gun, firearm, pistol or assault rifle, belongs one place and one place only: Locked inside a gun rack, either in the den out of harms way, or perhaps in the shed! Dad or mom should be the only ones with a key.
This might be considered the "East Coast elitist" way of handling gun violence. Maybe then there'd be less of it:-)
Rich,
Why label thinking people as "weasels"? Are you perhaps not projecting your own masculinity issues?
Notice I, Tacitus, Miloslaw and others here aren't out to prove on a regular basis what "tough guys" they are.
Lyzko
27 Feb 2020