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He has invited Waldemar Krysiak. He is showing that militant LGBT organizations are not the only ones who can speak for homosexuals. Very smart move on Duda's side


Meanwhile: White House confim Duda's visit in Washington on June 24th*

Another deep and insightful political analysis done by @mafketis ;-)

*wpolityce.pl/polityka/505198-bialy-dom-spotkanie-duda-trump-24-czerwca

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Less emotions and more clear thinking. The role of ambassador is to link two countries. The decision making process is up to President and Parliaments.

Duda-Trump connection works because it is of benefit for both sides: thanks to Poland The US can put pressure on the EU, Germany especially, and also they can keep the presence in Central Europe and keep Russia in check.

And for Poland the main benefit is that we can break the fatal Germano-Russian connection done over our head. And to build Intermarium 3SI innitiative that would otherwise be jeopardized by both: Germany and Russia, because it goes against their best interest, and would be very difficult for Poland without American cooperation.

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@Ironside is right. The role of an ambassador is to act as a link between two countries and not interfering in an internal politics of another country. Georgette Mosbacher needs to know her place.

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That's interesting since I know few Czechs here in London and their girlfriends are nothing like German women that I know from my eurotrips. Czech and Slovacs are as similar to Poles as one can get. And I was also surprised how much I do understand in Czech. And I was also pleasantly surprised how much Slovaks understand from Polish contemporary culture (music, cinema)

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The most important poll will take place on June 28 and then on July 12.

I've stopped trusting public opinion polls at least since 2015 elections in which polls predicted a crushing victory of Komorowski over Duda. Of course there are more solid internal polls which major parties order for their own personal use and don't share with the public.

Simply put just like in the army: a political propaganda for the masses and solid information for political command centers to effectively operate on.

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National Movement is now a dominant faction in Konfederacja. K.Bosak has not only full support of G.Braun but also from Korwin member A.Dziambor.

K.Bosak supporters and G.Braun supporters will vote for Duda as a "lesser evil". I know the mentality of those people, and I spoke with few leaders of local structures in the past.

Now, despite publicity stunts done by some of Korwin members [Wilk], I predict that most Korwin supporters will also back up Duda. Yes, they are pro-capitalists but they also realize than Trzaskowski won't provide it. And first and foremost they despise cultural marxism and militant LGBT movements. Just like me, they will vote for a "lesser evil"

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Now, that's a better answer. That's always an option and he can do that. That said, when he decide to support one of the candidates it is not going to be Trzaskowski...

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I've asked clearly who is K.Bosak as a presidential candidate going to support in the 2nd round. Don't play(?) dumb

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Well thank you @Ziemowit but I'll pass. I've never claimed any government benefit, handout or aid in my life and that's not going to change :-)

So I will leave it for those who cannot manage otherwise.

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On purely economic grounds I would, and I will, choose K. Bosak the rest are more or less socialists.

On ideological grounds I would choose K. Bosak

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Out of the two main (by predicted share of votes) candidates: Duda and Trzaskowski on a ideological grounds I would choose Duda over Trzaskowski.

On economic grounds they're both similar to me. Trzaskowski is Tusk #2. PO (Trzaskowski was a member, MEP and minister in PO) had almost 8 years to make economic changes and all they did was building blown up bureaucratic apparatus and raising the taxes.


You see Atch, as blasphemous as it may sound to you, most Catholics take into account and quote the words of Christ from New Testament over even the finest religious scholars.

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I'm not surprised since K.Bosak is a very popular politician, especially among young voters. And he is a very good speaker. He will get a lot of exposure which will pay dividends for him and for Konfederacja later on.

Now, the most interesting aspect for both sides is who is he going to support in the second round. Who is he going to encourage his voters to vote for? Is it going to be:

a) a candidate who is defending traditional Christian family values

or

b) a candidate who is pushing an LGBT agenda?

What do you think @delphiandomine :-)

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Poor soul. Share with him this quote from New Testament which applies perfectly to an LGBT sex "education" of school children:

"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea."

Matthew 18:6

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Yes, moving towards private education system and health system would be beneficial. This cannot be done instantly but having more private innitiative in those fields is better than less. I, for example, have bought a private medical insurance for my parents in Poland which is far superior than state care.

Changes should be applied gradually but firmly. Obviously, a key industries should be controlled by a private Polish capital - money has nationality. Just like the key industrial players in the US are controlled by the US citizens.

It's going to be a long process and it needs to be powered by a younger generation with better understending on how the economy works. Konfederacja is the only major political party which has plan for it (read their political programme).

It is not something that PiS and Duda would do. I will vote for Duda in 2nd round (unless K. Bosak make it to the 2nd round) for a sole reason that he will proceed with decomunisation of judicial system and he will halt the spread of cultural marxism in forms of militant LGBT. Trzaskowski would be a real disaster for Poland.

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The government should do nothing for small Polish business except for not interfering and for lowering taxes. It's not "tarcza" which was the issue but a moronic "quarantine measures" which have stopped the economy for almost 2 months.

And the fact that equally moronic measures were undertaken by the most of the Western World (except for Sweden, kudos to them) is not an excuse. We had a chance to act smarter but it was wasted by morons like Szumowski.

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The fact that Duda took over the initiative and moved the political debate to a field very convenient for him - and very unconvenient for Trzaskowski - that is LGBT will give him a major boost 2 weeks before the elections.


To me it looks more like "how it is perceived by so called liberal left media outfits in the Western world". Truly intelligent people have opinions of their own

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That's such a funny argument on so many levels...LGBT movements really think that the world revolve around them and their sexual preferences.

Like I said before: I've got nothing against homosexuals who keep their sexual life to themselves. I'm against militant LGBT ideologists who seek an affirmation of all sort of sexual deviations in a public space. Political LGBT movements are a cancer on a society.

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I see that support group therapy has started early this year. Aren't you even going to wait for the results? :-)


Not against lgbt people but an lgbt political organizations. K.Bosak has nothing against homosexuals but he is against agressive ideology behind lgbt organizations.

Simply put: an average tax paying law abiding homosexual citizen who keeps his sexual preferences to himself is nothing to be concerned about.

An agressive "gay" political activist who wants to deprive school children with so called "sexual eduacation" and organizing "love" parades in the centres of big a cities with half-naked men dancing and bending on playforms is a cancer on a society.

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:-)


Lenka, he speaks openly about hot button political and social issues and he never dodges any difficult questions when giving the interviews.

He is just a genuinely smart guy who is very good at logically and calmly explaining his point of view. Konfederacja and K. Bosak represent a new quality in Polish politics.

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Like always, in - this time globally artificially induced - difficult times people are looking for more stability and not for changes. Which is a pity because we could see some good constructive changes for the better proposed by Konfederacja, but it could also mean that we could suffer changes for the worse introduced by POKO candidate.


Nor PiS or POKO has that momentum.

PiS is a political party of power, a party of fat cats, and challengers are always more motivated to win than the reigning champion. Duda, on the other had, seems to still have an appetite for winning.

Trzaskowski has reclaimed POKO voters lost to disastrous Kidawa-Blonska [future is the female] campaign but no more than that. Compare POKO results before and after Kidawa-Blonska campaign and before quarantine. The shorter presidential campain will, paradoxically, work in his favour since he will have less occasions to open his mouth in public. Still, the remaining 2.5 weeks to the elections is enough for him to show his "competence" in all its glory :-)

Holownia had a momentum driven by mainstream media like TVN [Polish CNN] who saw him as a wunderwaffe against Duda during Kidawa-Blonska campaign. Holownia would look like an OK candidate at first glance given I wouldn't know who's behind him.

And K. Bosak has a momentum steeming from the grass roots movement and idealism of his young followers sharing political info on the internet. He is the only candidate who wasn't backed by any large media outfit but by a regular followers.

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Cultural triggers and emotions are very important in politics. No more than 10% of voters are analyzing the political programme of their candidates and political parties. Not more than 1% of KOD/Obywatele RP crowd shouting about the "Constitution" have ever read it.

Voting is a deeply emotional decision. If Trzaskowski get framed* in a convenient way he is done. Trumpo has framed his opponents in presidential elections (remember "little Marco"?) and he won.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(social_sciences)

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Not very likely.

To me he presents himself more like a full of sh*t hipster wearing a vintage scarf and sipping a soy latte in Starbucks while browsing the internet forums on his MacBook to rant about environmental issues...

I look at that man and all I see is perfect emptiness. He is devoid of any distinctive features or any interesting thoughs of his own. In one-on-one debate he would be eaten by K.Bosak.

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I have to agree with you. Konfederacja, which is the youngest right-wing political force with a young and dedicated electorate is the future.

exit polls 2019 for oko.press

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I'm not negating the fact that homosexuals ("Gays" with capital letters? Is it some kind of a new secular deity now?) consists of a small fraction of a given society so there must a whole bunch of them living in 1.7 mil. Warsaw alone.

And I couldn't care less about that fact because it is a private sphere of life for every civilized human being and yet they've forged their sexual preferences into an ideological movements, like lgbt, aimed at subverting the natural Christian order on which our civilization and a cultural identity it is based on.


Sure, because people are preoccupied fighting Chinese flu, right? ;-) Well, that fuel is slowly running out and even the slowest persons are starting to realize that they've been played.


Back to square one: militant lgbt movement is a real problem because it touches, and trying to corrupt, the very basis of a Christian civilization itself. Fortunately, most Poles realize that.

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It is not up for him to remind to public opinion his past political actions in supporting LGBTQi+? (I hope I didn't miss any particular sexual and/or mental deviations for which it stands for) indoctrination but for his political opponents.

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Which would only suggest that K.Bosak is very effective at gaining support from centrists. Obviously the core voters and party political progamme are always going to be conservative and right wing yet without support from centrist voters it would be impossible to win the main prize. The main goal is to swing the centrist electorate to the right and to make a new centre located more to the right. This process has already started after 2015.

Obviosly, I will support Duda if K. Bosak won't get to second round. Duda would be the best out of the remaining candidates and he would guarantee further judicial reforms or simply put decomunisation of the courts. Most of my friends would also vote for Duda as a "lesser evil" option but I'm glad to know that K. Bosak has started taking over centrist voters. What K.Bosak is doing is brilliant: he is winning centrists without corrupting Konfederacja's political program and losing the ideological core electorate.

K. Bosak main goal for this campaign is to show himself and score the best possible result to show that right wing nationalist candidate is a viable option and not some political folklore like the mainstream media are trying to picture it. He is a young promising candidate and Konfederacja is a young party. We need time and resources to become a really big political force.


Not very likely. Only someone who is not deep into Polish politics would think that A.Duda will go "full radical". He will only win the elections by being himself which is the opposite of "full radical". And he may only "get radical" regarding issues which have overwhelming support of the majority of Polish society - hitting Trzaskowski for his lgbt agenda is one of those things.

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Simple. His score is not a result of his overall brilliance, which he lacks, but a reflection of crushing incompetency of Kidawa-Blonska who has brough POKO to its knees. The rapid growth of Trzaskowski that we are seeing now is a restoration of a regular pre-quarantine, pre-Kidawa, share of voters among candidates.

Around 30% is a ceiling after which he will have to start eating his "liberal" competitors to gather up some more. He will have to be more agressive than them (and definitely more aggressive than Duda), more frantically anti-PiS than them and we know how Poles perceive the aggressors in politics.

The whole battle will take place over the center and undecided voters and Duda have more qualities to win them. What works agains Duda are Szumowski and his moronic "quarantine measures" and appealingly bad Kurski's public TV with its low-quality propaganda.

What works against "Czaskoski" is that he is who he is. And also that he needs to open his mouth from time to time. If he could remain silent trough the whole campaign then maybe he would get a chance to become a president.


Sure, as long as sexual preferences remain in private not in public sphere and tolerance is not confused with affirmation.

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@Crow, the only thing he would ever push for would be homosexual parades and LGBT indoctrination as we can tell from his past political decisions. And in foreign politics he would be oriented for a total submission to the EU core.

Fortunately he is not very likely to win and he only fights for a 2nd round to secure a crumbling POKO a major opposition party slot in the future.

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Konfederacja will take a chunk of voters who will never vote for PiS but are also dissapointed with POKO and are not radically leftist to vote for SLD/Wiosna. They will have to fight over it and share it with PSL


K. Bosak always plays it smart because he is a smart guy. That said, I've read/watched many interviews with him and he never bailed out on difficult questions and always made it clear where Konfederacja stands on hot button issues like LGBT indoctrination, enforced multikulti agenda, abortion, Catholicism, national identity etc.

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Not only from PiS. Konfedercja also takes voters from the other parties. It attracts many centrist or moderate conservative voters who would never vote for PiS for various reasons since PiS have sizeable negative electorate.

Konfederacja is expanding the pool of conservative and moderate voters absorbing even many former PO voters who are not very likely to ever vote for PiS.

Like many disillusioned former PO voters, who supported PO when it tried to become "Chadecja". Yes, it's hard to imagine but that bunch of letist halfwits wanted to become a Christian centrist party once....

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Both things can be done at the same time. And those are facts not grandiose plans since Polonia did indeed played a great role in the US before NATO accession of Poland. Konfederacja, and people who back them up like Stanislaw Michalkiewicz, can see that vast potential and shared plans on how to unblock it and utilize it.


I know that those are the plans of "progressive" element against Poland but let me make one thing clear: a traditional Catholic Poland is not a secular France with a muslim colonial history. If anything, the young generation of Poles is politically more to the right than past generations.