Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

@dolno, yes, you got it right! That should make solving the riddle much easier :))

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

Nope, you got the city right, but the riddle is - where was this photo taken?

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

I don't know the answer to delph's riddle, so I'll just post mine:

Where was this photo taken?

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Language / I am looking for help to identify a song track which I believe is Polish. [25]

@ScotKevin, you're welcome, I'm glad I could help in such a sentimental matter :)

Language / I am looking for help to identify a song track which I believe is Polish. [25]

@ScotKevin, the song is "Marysiu, buzi daj" ("Marysia, give me a kiss"). It's a song called "biesiadna" - it's played at Polish wedding receptions, maybe it was a folk song.

The lyrics:

tekstowo.pl/piosenka,biesiadne,marysiu_buzi_daj.html

Recorded version:

youtube.com/watch?v=3bumbI2uFUY&list=RDpNlSrGqLAzY&index=25

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

@Jon357, it was an easy one for me because it's my region and I photographed that building from all sides, outside and inside, in order to draw it for a highschool project. I'd probably recognise it if someone woke me up in the middle of the night and showed me only that photo with the arcades lol I see you know the Holy Cross region pretty well :) Yes, Pińczów has an interesting history for such a small place :)


Yes, it's pretty and the garden around it is pleasant too :)
Btw, I called Pacanów a "city" despite the fact that it's more like a town, because it had city rights since 1265 until 1869, when those city rights were taken away due to tsarist repressions after the January Uprising. Pacanów got back its city rigts in 2019.


I think the crocodile wants to eat Koziołek Matołek lol Btw, I remember me and my brother had one comic book with Koziołek Matołek going on a ship to Africa, I think, but that's probably not this one...


True, Lenka... Maybe I'll post some riddle-photos too, if I have time :)

@Johnny_reb, I have no kind words for you, you must've mistaken me for someone else. Leave your personal issues with me out of this thread.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

The building with arcades is spa "Marconi" in Busko Zdrój :) It was built in 1836 and designed by a renowned Warsaw architect with Italian roots, Henryk Marconi - hence the name. Koziołek Matołek stands near the building, because Busko Zdrój is not that far away from Pacanów - his home city :))

Dolno, it would be great if you posted some photos too :)

Btw, Chemikiem, I'm really in awe of your guessing skills and knowledge about all things Polish!

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


I didn't want to "win" anything, that is not why I am here on this forum. I guess you can't understand that, because you're not normal. I was sincerely disgusted by you and I still am. So now you're using sexually abused infants and at the same time you're downplaying what's happening to girls in Afghanistan to "win" on an internet forum? How f*cked up can you get? Do you have no limits, no boundaries whatsoever?

And your planning is very poor then. Infants and kids are sexually abused all over the world, including in Afghanistan, so I'm not sure what's that supposed to prove according to your twisted mind.


They are in no way "lucky", ffs. And infants aren't forced to marry anywhere. As I wrote, such abuse happens everywhere and it's not part of any culture or legalised in any way. However, forcing young girls to marry old farts is part of culture in Afghanistan and that's why those "lucky" girls kill themselves - that's the reason for the greater number of suicides among women and girls over there, in case you wondered (although I doubt you did).


I'm not surprised now that you and Rich got along so well.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


Rich, you are simply disgusting. You've honestly made me sick right now. Do you know that Afghanistan is the only country in the world where there are more suicides committed by women and girls than by men and boys? According to Human Rights Watch 85% of Afghan women is experiencing physical and psychological abuse and are being forced to marry (including girls as young as 12, for example). There's also a problem with honor killings:

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawa_kobiet_w_Afganistanie

And you clearly don't know how human trafficking looks like and how it works. When you're raped by the traffickers, your passport is taken away from you and you're locked up by armed men in a brothel than what do you do? If they show you pictures of your family back in Poland and tell you they will kill them if you ran away or refuse to do what you're told, then what do you do when you're a 17-year-old girl, for example? I know of one Polish woman (who was that 17-year-old girl) who cut her body, her arms, legs, belly in order not so be sent to "the room".


That's too private for this f*cked up forum.

Iron, how on Earth is women's lower self-esteem connected to biology and "a natural difference between men and women"?? Ręce opadają...


Exactly. That's why I added social attitudes to "laws and opportunities". Because it isn't enough to change laws, people's mindset have to change too, but, as I wrote, it takes time.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


Don't you exaggerate a bit? What makes you think that? I mean, there is a difference between countries like Afghanistan and Sweden, for example... Are you able to say why you had such attitude yourself? I guess boys don't just get born with it, right?


Wow, then your transformation was almost like the one of Saul of Tarsus into Paul the Apostle lol :)) What kind of books were those and what made you read them?


Iron, for God's sake... Why do you automatically assume that something was my "perception not facts" and that I was reading into something that wasn't there? Do you do that to every woman? Judging by your previous comments about rapes on this forum I'm guessing that you do. You have no idea what happened to me and who did it, so, please, don't make such comments, if you don't know what it's all about. You do realise that bad things happen to women in this world, right? Or do you also live in some kind of La La Land?

@Strzelec35, I don't claim I'm hot lol You don't have to be hot to be viewed as a sexual object by certain... "men". You don't even have to be an adult... or even 15-years-old, as I'm sure you know best :/

@Rich, as for "risk taking", you're missing the fact that not only Polish doctors have been leaving Poland to work abroad, but also Polish nurses (17 000 have left until 2018) and judging by my observation 99.9% of nurses in Poland are women. I even made a thread about it on PF: "Shortage of doctors, nurses and caregivers in Poland". My aunt who's a nurse (the one who had a heart attack last year) worked for some time in Italy as a caregiver when she was younger. She didn't know any Italian and communicated with the family she worked for with some basic, broken English and hand gestures. Here's an article about Polish nurses leaving to work abroad and why they're leaving:

everethnews.pl/newsy/polska-pielegniarka-za-granica/

But that's not the only reason why there's a shortage of nurses in Poland. Women simply don't want to become nurses, because wages are low despite the fact that work is hard, too many patients for one nurse, bad working conditions, being treated by doctors like cleaning ladies despite being qualified medical personnel (judging by my observation majority of doctors at hospitals are men, so maybe hence the attitude...).

And Christopher Columbus, seriously? Do you have no shame? Women weren't even allowed to be sailors at that time, ffs.
I know more than one woman who left Poland alone with nobody awaiting her on the other side. Maybe you should get out more often and get to meet people. Btw, in the 90s it ended badly for many Polish women. Human trafficking was rife at that time. An American working as US ambassador in Austria at that time said that around 9000 Polish women were trafficked over there - they were promised work as waitresses, hotel staff, etc. but ended up in brothels and in the streets. And that was just Austria, so you can imagine how many lives were broken at that time...

@Johnny_reb, I remember that Hillary Clinton was trying to convince Jolanta Kwaśniewska (she was a First Lady, the wife of president Aleksander Kwaśniewski) to run for presidency in Poland due to her huge popularity in the nation, but she didn't want to. Ziemowit explained the rest.


I'm not sure what you're talking about - Piłsudski granted women in Poland the right to vote in 1918 - was that "meddling" according to you? By changing attitudes in the society I meant things like, for example - raising kids. Teaching girls that they can be doctors, not only nurses and receptionists, that they can be scientists, that they can set up their own companies or work as CEOs of big companies, that they can be prime ministers and presidents, etc. And raising them in such a way that they are able to be competitive enough for such jobs. Teaching them to be more assertive and confident, because girls and later on, women, have a problem with that. Girls and women are raised to be nice and not cause trouble and then they have a problem with reacting to sexual harassment at work, for example. Women and girls have a lower self-esteem than men and boys not only in the looks department, but in general. They have a problem with asking for a raise at work, for example. I could go on and on like this. I would have a few words about raising boys too - teaching them to be more empathic and how to deal with their emotions, agression in better ways, etc. But that's all I have time for now.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


Wow, I'm impressed, Rich, it took you a long time to call me a "feminazi" :D What did it take - calling you a liar? Or maybe it was some kind of revenge for calling you a misogynist? You know you are both and you revel in it, so what's the problem?

No, Rich, you weren't writing as if those were just your opinions. For example, it would be an opinion if you wrote: "I think women have a problem with facing the truth about abortion". It would be an unfair generalisation, but at least it would be an opinion. But instead you wrote: "Women refuse to see the details of how abortions are done and their consequences." This is a claim and you didn't provide any proof for that claim. You don't know whether all women refuse to see those details - you have no way of knowing that and you didn't provide any links to polls or research that would prove that. I am a living proof to the contrary - I didn't refuse to see those details of abortion, I watched a documentary about it already when I was a teen.

You also lie. For example, you wrote: "I don't know of any man who would murder his own small kids, with full premeditation, because he felt bad that day". A man of your age would have to live in a cave in order not to know of such cases.


I don't know if you have no honour at all or whether you're that delusional or simply trolling again.
I wasn't taking anything out on all men. Whatever I wrote in this thread was merely a response to what some men wrote on here and there wasn't anything "man-hating" about it. It's your buddy and guru, Rich, who's doing all the hating here - towards women - and I was simply debunking his false claims, lies and "opinions". Unlike in his and your case, most of what I wrote was backed by proof - polls, statistics, research, articles, etc. You even thanked me for some of the information I provided - does that make you a "man-hater"? :D

There was also nothing "man-hating" in that one line you picked out of my sarcastic response to your ignorant comment about women and their voting rights - quite the opposite. Rich complained about women being too tired to have sex because of work and I simply mirrored it in my comment, it's just I wrote about men this time. Quite some time ago I've read a Polish article about it - that more and more men were experiencing problems with erection and sex drive due to the fast pace of the life nowadays - being overworked, stressed out by work. Of course, there are also other reasons like unhealthy lifestyle and resulting health problems, drinking alcohol, watching too much p0rn, etc:

irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-30904428.html

According to the study mentioned in the article almost 50% of men in their 30s in Britain had difficulties in getting and maintaining an erection. Almost 50% of them blamed stress, 25% - heavy drinking, 36% - tiredness and 29% - anxiety.

Btw, my sarcastic response to what you wrote was "tongue in cheek", as you call it. I think dolno understood it and had a laugh along with me :) So maybe it's you who should quit taking life so seriously, johnny_reb :)))

And you didn't answer my question - would you mind it if men were stripped of the right to vote and would have to become stay-at-home dads - cooking, cleaning and taking care of kids 24/7? :)

Also, do you agree with Rich that women aren't equally as good morally as men are?

@Ironside, for me gender equality is, in short, about equal rights and opportunities. It's also about attitudes in the society, but changing them, unlike in case of changing law, takes time.


You hit a nail on the head here, pawian. I think that's the underlying problem with attitude of a lot of men around the world towards women. I didn't realise that when I was younger, but I do now. Often they don't see us as equals as human beings and it also happens that they don't even view us or treat us like human beings at all. That's the main difference, in my opinion, between attitudes of men and women. Women almost never view men as objects. Even when they hate them - they hate them as human beings. They may be some women who view men as animals or monsters, but I think that always stems from some really bad experiences with men. In case of men, however, thinking that women are worse than them, someone below them that they want to lord over, control, seems to be some kind of default mindset regardless of their experience with women - all they need to do is to be born in the right culture and that seems to be enough to turn off any or much of the empathy towards women and girls. Of course, I'm not talking about all men, but I think you know what mean...

For me personally it's scary and depressing, because as a girl and a woman I've experienced this lack of empathy and being viewed as an object by some men in real life, so it's not just internet theory for me. It's real life and shouldn't be a joking matter for men, because, in turn, it influences the attitudes of women towards men.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


I'm not buying the crap you're writing anymore, Rich. You're generally prejudiced against women, I doubt it's about abortion. As often, you're bullsh1ting. Besides, there are different reasons for abortion. If your granddaughter was raped when she was 12 by, let's say, her father, and the doctors decided that it would be too dangerous for her to give birth, would you be convincing her not to get an abortion by showing her pictures of aborted babies? Would you be blabbing about maternal instinct then?

Also, not all women are fit to be mothers, imho, not all women have that maternal instinct right away, especially young women, some men talk women into and pay for abortion of their girlfriends to "get rid of the problem", parents tell their young daughters to have an abortion or they'll throw them out of the house into the street, etc.

Btw, it looks like both mothers and fathers can develope "motherly instinct":

nationalgeographic.com/news/2018/05/mothers-day-2018-maternal-instinct-oxytocin-babies-science/

healthline.com/health/parenting/maternal-instinct#is-it-a-myth


Oh, poor Rich... I'm not buying that either, sorry. Bullsh1t after bullsh1t. You're simply trying to weasel out, as you already did in the past.

This may be an internet forum and not a court of law, but it doesn't mean that you can't be caught lying, bullsh1ting, twisting things, etc.

Whenever you don't provide proof for one of your outrageous, stupid claims, me and everyone else has every right to call you a liar and write that you're talking out of your ass.

So, Rich Mazur - you're a misogynistic LIAR and you're talking out of your ass.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


No, you aren't, as has been proven quite a few times already.


I don't know about the US, but in Poland manufacturing and agriculture are in no way predominantly male jobs lol I know that for a fact because I have family members who work in factories and half of my family lives in the countryside.

Besides, what would have being preferred for particular jobs, whether "creating wealth" or not, anything do to with being "evil" or morality? Have you lost your mind completely?


No, no more bullsh1t. PROVIDE PROOF TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

@Novichok, you don't have to be a woman to "refuse to see the details of how abortions are done and their consequences". Men have eyes too. You also don't have to be a woman to suport or be against abortion - plenty of men in Poland support abortion.

So, cut the crap and prove your claims.

Btw, as a teen I've seen a documentary about abortion on Polish TV which was showing the details of how it's done, but that's not why I'm against abortion "on a whim".

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

@Dolno, I guess she must have thought that you were worth the effort of sorting you out ;) :))

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


Control what and be held responsible for what? And again - do you have any proof for that claim? Any percentage, statistics, polls, research confirming this?


She must be lovely, dolno... :) But I guess good men end up with good women :))

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


Haha... dolno... lol I don't have any problem with you as far as attitude towards women goes, so, yes, you can join my team :))


Gee, why am I not surprised... lol But thank you at least for admitting it. I wish more misogynists were more... open... about what they really think, like you :)


1. Unlike men? You have any proof for that claim?
2. You're a funny man, Rich. First you advocate for women to stay home and men to work and now you claim that when those stay-at-home women spend the money of their working husbands they're somehow "evil/immoral"? Logic doesn't seem to be your forte.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

@Lenka, you're welcome :) By now I've learned to double check whatever Rich is writing.


Johnny_reb, I'm deeply moved by your and Rich's genuine care for the fate of women and I'm greatly impressed by your profound insight into the plight and quality of their life during the times when they had no right to vote and nowadays. Your selfless attitude has inspired me to better myself and care more about the fate of men in return! Therefore, I've come to a conclusion that men should be stripped of their voting rights. Yes, sir, you're reading it right! No voting rights for men! If it was so great when 50% of the adults in the society had no voting rights, I'm sure it can be great again, but this time - with men not being allowed to vote. I think men should be able to experience the bliss of not having to decide about the fate of the country they're living in. Also, it would probably be better if they didn't work outside the house either. Men are so overworked and stressed out by work nowadays that more and more of them have problems with "getting it up" or simply don't want to have sex altogether. So, stay-at-home dads sound like a great idea, right? I'm sure they'll fall in love instantly with cooking, cleaning and taking care of kids 24/7 for the rest of their fascinating lives :) I would also go a bit further than you and say that men shouldn't be allowed not only to smoke but also to drink alcohol. Both are unhealthy and alcohol destroyed so many families - I'm sure you'll agree! Of course, since, we, the women, will be the only ones bringing the money home, you, men, will have to repay us by being our wh0res in the bedroom :)

How do you like my ideas? You aren't hypocrite, so I'm sure you're loving it, right??


I wasn't asking about competing in sports, I asked whether you recognize that women are as good as men morally. You wrote that you're recognizing how equally evil women are. Are they also equally as good as men then, according to you?


No, it isn't pointless, because if both parents work and after work they're equally tired, but only one of them is doing all the house chores and is taking care of their children then it's simply unfair and exhausting. And if the husband expects "rose petals and passionate sex" then he should relieve his wife by doing his share at home too, so she wouldn't be so "desperate not to fall asleep in the process".


I've posted those links to show you and other right-wing men that it's not only women who are pro-abortion, but also men. Especially Rich likes to write how evil women are for being in favour of having the right to abortion. However, those polls show that in Poland, which is a Catholic, conservative country, not only majority of men are pro-abortion and supported womens' protests, but also more men than women are in favour. How do you explain this?

Btw, Spike31, you don't have to convince me about anything because I'm against abortion "on a whim", not only for religious, but mainly for ethical reasons.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

Rich, how about recognizing how equally good women are? Are you even capable of that?


I don't know about the US, but in Canada:

news.uoguelph.ca/2015/10/new-study-compares-mothers-fathers-who-kill-their-children/


It matters though, since if you know why, you can prevent it. Women are more likely to experience psychiatric illness after childbirth than at any other time in their life (Kendell et al, 1987). In the month following childbirth, women are up to 25 times more likely to become psychotic (Marks, 1996).


I remember reading an article showing poll results stating that in Poland more men support abortion than women.
Also more men than women supported the latest protests against changing the abortion law in Poland:

rp.pl/Spor-o-aborcje/201109951-Sondaz-Polacy-popieraja-protesty-Glownie-mezczyzni.html

Rich, in Poland there's something called "Niebieska Karta" (The Blue Card):

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niebieska_Karta_(procedura)

It documents the history of domestic violence in a family over the years and is seen as evidence in court during divorce, for example. And molesting your child is a serious crime - the child has to be questioned by a specialized psychologist to determine whether the accusations are true. Isn't it the case also in the US?

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


Yes, you did: postpartum psychosis:

healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/prenatal/delivery-beyond/Pages/Understanding-Motherhood-and-Mood-Baby-Blues-and-Beyond.aspx

"The symptoms of postpartum psychosis typically begin during the first 4 weeks after delivery and may include:
(...)
Thoughts of hurting yourself, your baby, or others"

I'm not sure what does it have to do with your false claim that men only kill but women also torture their victims?


And do you want me to write about how only fathers (and men in general) rape little kids to the point they bleed to death or need stitching?

Whatever you find - I can find something similar or even worse. But what's the point? Do you really want to go there?

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


No, your post was much more general than that:


So - as I wrote before: bullsh1t.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

Iron, if you see it this way, then it's your problem. Maybe you have some kind of chip on your shoulder, I don't know. Perhaps you should take your own advice: "Talk with a shrink I think you need one."

And what is the "right" way of giving examples of fathers killing their own children? lol Please, enlighten me.


Another bullsh1t. There's plenty of examples of male serial killers torturing their victims and even getting sexual excitement from it. How f*cked up is that, Rich?

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


You're welcome.


No, Iron, I've left many of Rich's idiotic, untruthful, unfair comments about women on this forum without a reaction and enough is enough. You've argued with him too on this forum, so you can do it, but I can't? I have the same rights on this forum as you do, so you wake up.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


Iron, are you high on something?
It's a normal response. Rich wrote that he doesn't "know of any man who would murder his own small kids, with full premeditation, because he felt bad that day". So I gave him an example of such a man. Then Lenka gave another example. Then I gave another.

So, now Rich knows of three such men. There are more such examples but I think it's enough.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


As usual you're hysterically yapping and offending people without reading the whole discussion, apparently. It was our response to Rich's comment:



OMG... Lenka... ;D You and kaprys are the best lol

News / Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics? [94]


And a cool wife - a MiG-29 jet fighter pilot and a first lieutenant in the Polish Air Force!


And me :)

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


I haven't heard about this one, but this case immediately comes to my mind:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224977/Father-stabbed-people-including-wife-children-death-island-Jersey-jailed-30-years.html

He stabbed his little son 13 times... Jesus... He didn't kill himself though...


I'm sure to people like you it does matter... lol

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


Not all, but in Poland majority of them are (probably simply because they were raised like this) and it looks like you and some other men would like it to stay that way.

I didn't need to see those statistics because I live here and I know this from real life... but I'm posting them for those male supremacists who live in their American La La Land where women spend their husbands' money away and are more violent than men by attacking them with their 2-inch stilettos... lol

CBOS research from 2018 - table on page 2 compares data for years 2002, 2006, 2013 and 2018:

cbos.pl/SPISKOM.POL/2018/K_127_18.PDF

House chores in Poland in 2018:

cooking - only women - 65%
washing dishes - only women - 56%
cleaning - only women - 61%
thorough cleaning (washing windows, beating the rugs, etc.) - only women - 57%
doing the laundry - only women - 82%
ironing - only women - 81%
everyday shopping - only women - 37%

In addition it's mainly women who take care of children here. You also have to take into account the fact that majority of women work in Poland (not "some", but majority).

So, to sum it up - women work, cook, clean, are doing the laundry, take care of children, etc... and what men do?


Paw, you're seriously my personal hero right now... :)
Btw, my mother, who's from countryside, always repeated that I should learn to cook so I could cook for my husband. She never told my brother that he should learn to cook too. The irony of this is that he learned to cook before me... in the army lol So it was the army that taught him this basic life skill and not my mother. Go figure... And good that he did learn, because his wife doesn't exactly excel at cooking ;)) I think his time in the army made him more independent in general and thanks to this he isn't such a momma's boy like many men here are, who can't (or are unwilling) to do anything around the house.

Has anyone seen that show "Tata w tarapatach" ("Dad in trouble")? A grown man doesn't know how to operate a washing machine and how to do the laundry - his 5-year-old daughter had to help him... Pathetic...


You know very little about this world then. Try watching one of those crime and investigation channels. One case from Australia that shocked the whole country - a father killed his little daughter to get back at his ex-wife (there were also his sons in the car, but he chose the girl):

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375624/Australian-man-threw-daughter-bridge-jailed-32-years.html

Btw, the child survived the fall at first, as far as I remember, but died later on - they couldn't save her...

Life / Vandalism in Poland: Has it always been this way? [80]

And the fact that a vandal interprets rainbow colours on a bench as some kind of LGBT statement isn't a proof of anything yet either.

Life / Vandalism in Poland: Has it always been this way? [80]

And what does "F*ck Kaczyński" prove? That he's gay?? :D