News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Wow.... What a determined bunch! They can't even wait to get inside Schengen before harming citizens! I'm sure the Greens can't wait to get them inside....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Are you really going to try to play that card? ..... really?

Because...

express.co.uk/news/world/632806/ISIS-guide-tells-UK-jihadis-lose-beard-ditch-mosque-and-wear-cross-before-killing

It will be interesting to see how many of his fellow devout and observant protestant brethren have also been arrested...

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


How much of a budget loss does that represent? 4800 people who will most likely never give back anything to the system that 'saved' them....

What services will German taxpayers be deprived of in order to maintain the pretense that the new arrivals are anything but a financial and social burden?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


It will have to cover a big stretch of the Ukrainian border as well...

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Let me put on my shock face...

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News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


So many more womens hospitals to be bombed? Who on earth would want to end that?

twitter.com/UK_HGV_Network/status/1460246540505665541

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Liverpool today?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Letting a bunch of Afghans into your country is a terrible, awful mistake.... has any country that's let in a bunch of Afghans been happy about the result?


They are not refugees in any traditional or legal sense. Like many who get sucked into the human trafficking industry (aka modern slave trade) they are looking for a better situation and have fallen for smooth lies by recruiters about an easy life in Germany.... regrettable but Europe is in no way responsible for their fecklessness.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Afghans... they can't run their own country and they won't let anyone more competent do it instead (and then run when they get exactly what they fought for and demand that strangers feed them).....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

As has happened more than once, the human traffickers (aka modern slavers) are faster and more nimble than the slow and reactive EU.

Supposedly Lukashenka's new human ammo will be Afghans through Tajikistan....

the source isn't the best (tabloidy thing but.... alarming if true)

fakt.pl/wydarzenia/polityka/lukaszenka-chce-sprowadzac-uchodzcow-z-afganistanu/kx9rwdk

As immigrants Afghans are at the bottom of the barrel* (more or less tied with Somalis). Poor at integration, education and general life in a secular society and high in clannishness and crime.

*per a Dutch governmnet report on the net financial impact of migrants, Afghans and Somalis represent the biggest financial loss to any country unlucky enough to take them in...

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


I asked within the last five years. You lose. That quote is six years old. You lose (or you're stupid enough to take Lukashenka at his word).

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


When did she say anything of the kind in the last five years?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


If Serbia is siding with Belarus and Putin in the border issue then maybe that should change.


Not only do you side with Belarus and Putin against Poland(!) you want Poland to act in a treacherous manner! What is wrong with Serbs?


No, she did not. You're also dishonest. Dismissed. Leave and don't come back.

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"Belarus, with probably Russian help is committing armed aggression at the Polish border"

An avowed and open enemy of Poland, like yourself, wouldn't understand.

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Rewarding them for breaking the law - surely that will bring the movement to a standstill!

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Kill locals?

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So what religion are the majority of those trying to get in? Is that irrelevant?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


I only know of one major world religion that supports the idea of sex slavery.... and it's not Baháʼí....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

In news that should shock only the most liberal of readers, most of those involved in trying to smuggle migrants through Poland to Germany are............ (wait for it)......... immigrants to Germany! 2015, ladies and gentlemen! The gift that keeps on giving! Thanks Angela!!!!! Heck of a job!!!!!!!

polsatnews.pl/wiadomosc/2021-11-13/media-wiekszosc-osob-ktore-przemycaja-migrantow-z-bialorusi-to-cudzoziemcy-z-niemiec/

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


The internet... made literal interpretations of koran and hadiths widely available to tens/hundreds of millions of people who had little idea before and practice 'folk islam' a much more friendly and restrained version. In any religion literalism is a one way ticket to backwardness.


We need to be honest about who's trying to get in...


Soooooo how did Rotherham (and similar cases in many other British cities) happen again?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


The problem is that Islam has no way of challenging the.... stupidest parts of the hadiths (a much bigger problem than the koran itself). There's no modern tradition of interpreting anything except in the most literal and context free way possible.

And islamic beliefs, when widespread and literal (which is all there is now), tend to have a stultifying effect on a culture. Migration tends to strengthen religious belief so it will have a stultifying effect on anywhere in Europe where it gains a solid presence.

Belief in bunnies and unicorns and rainbows does not (and will not) change that.

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Polish a turd all you want, you're never gonna turn it into a diamond.

The only possible happy ending is forced assimilation (as used to happen in the US where immigrants got the message that their homelands and practices were backwards and inferior and _that_ is why they came in the first place

Adn John Bolton is a bloodthirsty neocon.... I do not listen to neocons... (wrong about.... everything)

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


So, he was right after all, he just got the direction wrong.... because the more middle eastern chaos it lets in the more it will resemble the middle east (corruption and chaos and violence and regressive religiosity). It's not a story with a happy ending....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints


So.... what do you think Poland should do right now?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

So to be clear, you want to open up the borders so that Lukashenka can send as many Iraqi Kurds to Germany as he wants. That's your position?

Small scale migration is normal, mass migration is more a sign that something is going very wrong (first at the point of origin and then at the point of destination).

What do you think of my idea of middle eastern countries opening up to western immigrants? (in post #882)?

Getting better organized people into Iraq should be a priority because their current population.... just not up to the job....

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like 2015....


2015 created all kinds of unrealistic expectations in a big part of the world that is chaotic, violent and trapped in poverty (for reasons that have nothing to do with colonialism or recent wars).

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Which is why you're not getting them there.

Does Germany take fingerprints and dna samples of those applying for asylum or is it that much of a sucker country that it just takes their word for who they are?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


The migrants don't know or care what the official German position is... they assume they can blend in with existing communities and eventually legalize their stay and tap into the welfare system.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


it's a fetus until birth, at which point it's a newborn/neonate

in terms of natural limitations, my biases run toward natural viability (the earliest it can survive outside the mother without massive, heroic intervention) abortion should, IMHO, be more available before that and more difficult to receive after that

IIRC it's somewhere between 5 and 6 months...

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


So Poland should not enforce legal border into the EU? Do you want to let them all in (including all that Belarus flies in in the future?) What is your numerical limit? 10,000? 100,000? 10,000,000? 100,000,000?

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Not Poland's fault.

Harsh facts:

More people want to live in Europe than Europe can allow in (and remain Europe). And the more let in the more will want o be let in.

Letting people in because you feel sorry for them only strengthens the human trafficking networks.

a novel solution: entrepreneur visas for westerners to settle in parts of the countries hemorrhaging refugees (with a high degree of self-rule and autonomy so they would be immune to local corruption and be free of local restrictive religious practices). They could establish superior models of government that locals have so far proven incapable of...