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jon357   
13 Jun 2025
Polonia / Polish bus crash in Croatia. Is there a fate? [226]

it's no surprise many more or less collapsed

As far as I know, only one collapsed (the one with the elderly lady, the gas cooker and the cigarette) called Ronan Point. It shocked the nation and the law regarding building safety was changed after that. Fortunately others a brand new building so very few people had moved in.

The ones demolished (actually not that many) were generally due to a concentration of people with difficult social problems being put in the same place and successive Tory governments (they absolutely hate the idea of social housing or anything else their bourgeois chums can't make a profit from) deliberately running down public infrastructure and in the case of housing, legally preventing councils from building or improving it

You can't just build flats, put families with huge problems in and run away to leave them to flounder,

Plus, some that were demolished were either temporary, experimental, or just too modern for people who wanted traditional things. Some of the ones that were knocked down in Glasgow (which has a huge amount of social housing) like the Red Road Flats were demolished because they were on windswept estates, miles from shops or services, and people just didńt like them. High rise work best in built up areas, as infill developments rather than on big estates and for either single people or the elderly. Most are successful; Google Park Hill Flats in Sheffield or the Byker Wall in Newcastle.
jon357   
13 Jun 2025
Polonia / Polish bus crash in Croatia. Is there a fate? [226]

bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-44396514

That why claims are always investigated.

why is there such a long tradition of crappy buildings in the UK?

There isn't really and most social housing is well-built though after the war there were a lot of homeless still a lot of early nineteenth century slums to be cleared, a huge pressure to build and money was very tight; some of the buildings were only expected to be temporary but lasted much longer. That's the same situation in Warsaw with the 'wielki płyty` buildings, banned in the late 60s in the U.K. after an old bat in London left the gas on at night and lit a cig in the morning.

Ironically, some of the shoddier buildings like prefabs (I'm all for bringing those back right now) and Airey Houses were among the most popular and much loved.

seems to have been an issue in the UK as well

Yes. The cities built them with high ideals but didn't always look after them and another problem was that people in the U.K. fetishise home ownership while at the same time concentrate the poorest who need the most help in the same areas. Plus, the councils who had ro build the most were generally in places that had the most problems.

I had 4 council flats, all were larger and a higher standard than you'd expect to find in PL (and one was borderline luxurious) however the problem families who the council had the most duty to support were obviously put in council accommodation and this didn't do much to make a cohesive or stable environment. A bit like that part of Warsaw near the women's prison sort of behind Grochów where the city houses families that they have a duty to house but who don't pay rent or cre much about what's around them.

There's going to be a new round of council house building in the U.K., and judging by the few estates that have been built in the last couple of decade or so, they will probably be good ones.
jon357   
13 Jun 2025
Polonia / Polish bus crash in Croatia. Is there a fate? [226]

Leicester

Yep, Leicester rather than London. Anywhere south of about north Derbyshire (unless it's zone 1 in London) may as well be Antarctica to me!

It's weird that some people are being sceptical about him being on the plane. Good that he survived though. A real miracle although he'll probably have survivirs' guilt, especially since his brother who was travelling with him was lost.

It will probably be a long time before they know how many people on the ground died, however the footage of survivors on stretchers looked tragic.
jon357   
13 Jun 2025
Polonia / Polish bus crash in Croatia. Is there a fate? [226]

a bit skeptical and would want real evidence

That's a bit of a strange thing to say, however yes, he was on the flight, as was his brother who sadly died.

I doubt the hospital who treated him needed any evidence other than his injuries. Anyway, he was a Londoner returning home who was on the flight manifest, and a couple of newspapers have shown pics of his bloodstained boarding pass.

Grenfell fraudsters

The Westminster Tory city councillors who decided to save money by using sub-standard cladding or the French company who falsified the results of safety testing so they could make money from selling substandard and dangerous products?
jon357   
13 Jun 2025
Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [766]

prawn chips

Prawn crackers are something that when they're warm, I could eat a thousand in one go.. Very very nice things. Did you know that it's possible to make a sort of pie with them?

Are they flavoured with ginger or shoyu?

There's also chili flavour.
jon357   
13 Jun 2025
Polonia / Polish bus crash in Croatia. Is there a fate? [226]

If you fly a Dreamliner, choose folel 11A.

And hope that if you're in a crash, every factor including angle of descent, geography and buildings on the ground are identical.

This really looks like a one in a million thing.
jon357   
12 Jun 2025
News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [528]

Yes, I can see people rising against the current Labour(Socialist) government

The one we've recently elected with a huge supermajority?

We didn't rise against the 14 years of appalling Tory misrule that did its best to wreck our infrastructure and industrial base as well as flagrant corruption from the likes of Hancock and Mone that are only now being investigated. Nor did we rise against the economic devastation of the Thatcher years with thousands losing their jobs, soup kitchens opening in formerly prosperous mining areas and whole towns in those regions still slowly depopulating even now.

No, all that will rise is our economy, our NHS and our wellbeing.
jon357   
12 Jun 2025
Off-Topic / What's your hobby? [191]

Diorama depicts a scene in 3D

I'd heard diorama (from American TV) but not diorama lamp. Amazon has a few and it's got me thinking. The one in your link that Showa an Abrams tank is pretty good.

The one you painted looks great; there's something about metallic that can lift an item to be something special.
jon357   
12 Jun 2025
Off-Topic / Stock Market Talk and Trading - part 2 [494]

This isn't 'your' thread.It is a PF thread regarding shares, something we are discussing here.

One to discuss might be Boeing; they obviously just dropped due to today's crash. Not a good investment at the moment due to uncertainty over sales and the doomed 737 Max however long term, I'd buy.

And what is a 'riddle thread' and why would you want to trash it?
jon357   
12 Jun 2025
Polonia / Polish bus crash in Croatia. Is there a fate? [226]

This newspaper said this:

"It all happened so quickly," Mr Ramesh, who sustained injuries to his face, chest and feet, said. It is not clear how he survived, but parts of the plane appeared to be intact after the crash.

"When I got up, there were bodies all around me. I was scared. I stood up and ran. There were pieces of the plane all around me," he told the Hindustan Times from hospital.


A sad thing is that his brother was on the plane too and presumably didn't survive.
jon357   
12 Jun 2025
Polonia / Polish bus crash in Croatia. Is there a fate? [226]

A miracle. That sometimes happens.

A horrible crash, and nobody knows yet how many people on the ground died. The media said it crashed into a Doctors' hostel.
jon357   
12 Jun 2025
News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [528]

Not especially

We're talking about Poles (and I had nasty xenophobic comments made against me there by someone who assumed I was one). What they do about others is their own wisdom or folly. Anyway, give it a generation or so. Not that the native-born Dutch are rushing to do the crap jobs. In a way, it's a toxic combination, a country ruled by organised crime being settled by people who generally do it better than them.

Some blowback against Poles are due to the freeloading

That's on much the same level as those titheads who used to very earnestly tell me that antisemitism in Poland exists because of the Ubeks, as if nobody had ever been a bigot before. The Dutch (especially in the south) have been judgemental since the waters receded from Noah's Flood.

everything is fine in ol blighty

Come on mate, that's an extreme religious fundamentalist youtube channel. What next, "Scientology Today"?
jon357   
12 Jun 2025
Off-Topic / Arts and crafts [140]

More from the orc Batinkov. Katsap or not, he knows how to paint.
This one is called "A Lathe Operator, 6th Grade, in a good mood (Токарь 6 разряда в хорошем настроении).


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jon357   
12 Jun 2025
News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [528]

and then don't actually contribute to the economy

Do Poles in the Netherlands not pay taxes or use shops then? Does their labour not contribute either?
jon357   
12 Jun 2025
Law / Gun control in Poland: should Polish people be allowed to own guns? [864]

How would it end?

Badly for him, given a. how well the police there are trained and b. it's not Wyoming where the nearest response team is 50 miles away.

changing the gun laws here made a difference.

I doubt any of us have heard anyone there (except the occasional farmer) say this was anything other than the right move.
jon357   
12 Jun 2025
News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [528]

Closer to anything relevant, the Dutch government has collapsed again.

The problem is in their southern 'bible belt', the part most hostile to people from other places, including Poland, who've moved there for work.
jon357   
11 Jun 2025
News / Polish PM Tusk- dictator or not? What Poles think? [455]

I hated Tusk when he was a big knob in the EU

To be fair to him, he was pad to be a twat in that role so he was just doing his job.

He's done reasonably well in Poland as both PM and President.
jon357   
11 Jun 2025
Life / Why so many Poles use a second hands clothes? [113]

sometimes there are real bargains for next to nothing.

The one that had the sex doll in also had a load of Marks and Spencer curtains. Not edgy and modern and not really suited to Polish tastes in decor (or window sizes) but very good quality and would probably look great in the right room.

real bargains for next to nothing.

When I was young and poor, I found a very good suit in one, would have cost a fortune to buy new and looked like it hadn't been worn.