History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]


They are tinies with their only achievements to show off being cuckoo clocks, they don't count! ;)


What's not to like?


....it doesn't get any better, that's for sure! :(

We might have crossed our zenith...but then, that's the problem of the next generations.

History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]


Who's standards are higher?

History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

If "voting with their feet" really is a criteria then Germany must be the most loved country in Europe! :)

(Especially by Poles!!!;)

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

Why "surprisingly" ?

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]


Well...you can say I have been socialized during the last decade of the GDR....during that time I developed my political consciousness in East-Berlin with the consequence to made a dash out of there the moment I could (with 18 years old)...I observed the break down of the wall a short time later in West-Berlin...watching the Trabis coming down the Ku-Damm....

I remember alot, it was probably the most memorable time of my life! :)

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]


I REALLY REALLY REALLY think what you are calling socialism in the US has not much if at all to do with the socialism/communism of the european past. Demanding a social security plan for all is NOT communism! :)

Another point is that it is mainly only strong in those regions where they can still nurture such idealism because they never experienced the dreary reality of it. Like in West Germany too...


It wouldn't be communism...because the robots would still belong to a handfull of people....but the now unemployed plebs has to be fed somehow or else they will be burn the robots and hang their owners.

So the consequence could truly be a kind of free money for all...dunno...*shrugs*

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

Heh:) That's a good one! :)

But it's also misleading...that WAS the communists best shot...communism just isn't in human nature and will always end up twisted and perverted...

Better accept that as a fact and not try it again!

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

Well..that would mean that a bourgeois elite had developed already right under the communists nose....

Or more probable, that these two had been become interchangable. And that the patience has just worn thin with trotting out these old ideological mantras whereas the people only want to enjoy what the West offered, without being forced to play the party game...

The ideal of communism was officially dead, renounced even by its nominal followers!

I wonder where China is on this way right now...how long it will take there till communists become openly, officially and totally unashamed capitalists! :)

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]


Well, doing NOTHING to help the assorted Vasalles to subdue their people was surely not part of the system, that had been done before regularly. This "brotherly help" was an important component of the whole system...

To denounce that was enough to destroy the socialist empire and to free the people. The jail door without an armed jailer behind, able and willing to shoot, is not much of a hindrance anymore...so, THANK YOU! :)


Which elite should that have been? The party sycophants? As you say, they got already what they wanted...

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

Most East-Germans know very well how much they have to thank Gorbatchov for...but in the same breath to pay your respect to Honecker and his ilk for what they didn't do is just wrong. They weren't reformer, they would had killed the protesters if they had could. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Gorbatschov was a historical stroke of luck, totally atypical for the system...the rest of the communist jailers still were the usual pestilence.


Well...the people had to wait for a Gorbatchow many years...in the meantime suffering either bloodthirsty madmen or bumbling idiots...without any means to remove them.

They lost the Cold War against western democracies for a reason! :)

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]


That's not quite correct!

The old men brigade in East-Berlin was fully willing to do it like the Chinese...to bring out the military to subdue their own people...they had no qualms whatsoever....it's just for that they NEEDED the nod plus military/logistical support from Moscow and it's troops in the GDR (as they have done 1953 and 1968) but this time Gorbatchov was smarter than that. During his last visit during the (as we now know) the last days of the GDR he said "Nyet" to any kind of further support ....and that was the end of it!

If it had been only Honeckers and Mielkes decision you would probably read today about "the massacre on the Alexanderplatz"....

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]


No, they weren't...on the brink of failure they opened the jail door a tiny bit and people used it to run! (Or else they would still exist).

After '89 the West didn't need to reform, he just WON! :)

Today, well...during the last decades some developments happened, without checked by great social, economical and cultural rival, that make reforms now rather necessary...

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]


Are they?

I met my last one about 10 years back..on a WWII forum...he claimed to have been an SS security detail at the Wolfsschanze...now living out his days in Florida though. I wonder if he's still kicking it..

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

.....most ended up in the Wehrmacht though.

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

"Allgemeine SS"...as in Home Security....honorary...

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allgemeine_SS

To avoid misunderstandings! :)

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]


All are correct in a way.

After '33 the NSDAP imposed an admission freeze for new members, to avoid all these opportunists who now came running.

At that point the party had about 849.009 members. Of course even after the freeze people seen as especially useful were "rewarded" with a membership.
But membership was in no way compulsory like in communist countries. (Quite the contrary, the lower your membership-number the higher would be your reputation, because that meant you had been an early member as it was still difficult, during the struggles, before the rise to power).

Till 1943 about 11% of the Germans were members....actually really NAZIS as in active members of the NSDAP. Meaning 89% were not.

But swearing allegiance to Hitler (not the party or the country) with Hitler being the party leader meant in real life actually the same...

News / Degenerate "rainbow" eyesore to disappear from Saviour Square (Plac Zbawiciela) in Warsaw [297]


Yeah...what I said...an islamic take over of Europe would fit you quite well....instead of pelting homos with stones, you can then officially stone them to death following the sharia law!

I really wonder why you are protesting so much actually. You will LOVE it! :)

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]


Do you have a number? A link maybe? Stats?

I only found one pointing into the opposite direction....

"More and more Poles are settling in eastern Germany. Since the fall of communism 30 years ago, rural areas in the east have been depopulated. Now, Polish families are taking advantage of the low real estate prices."

dw.com/en/germany-poland-new-old-neighbors/av-49604654

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]

Na ja...I foresee a dumping of the economic level of Germany, so it might be easier (and quicker) for Poland to catch up!

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]


How so?

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]


*cough Rebate cough*

Remember Thatcher and her handbag? :)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_rebate

Before the Brexit the UK had a veto to stop laws which she used, she could bring in new ideas....the UK had alot of influence about what happened in Europe.

How do you define "change"?

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]

Interesting for all who can read german...the "Spiegel" asks loudly why Poland of all EU-members voted for vdL (and is seemingly so enthusiastic about her)...is there a price to be paid?

The original:

spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ursula-von-der-leyen-warum-polens-pis-vertreter-fuer-sie-stimmten-a-1277913.html

Google translate into polish:

translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=pl&u=https%3A%2F%2Fspiegel.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2Fursula-von-der-leyen-warum-polens-pis-vertreter-fuer-sie-stimmten-a-1277913.html

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]


Well...the EU would be finished before it comes to that. Poles are not the only ones who value their freedoms, ya know? :)

I think the current immigration crisis is a good example...there are some leftist-liberal-greens who (with the help of a big part of the media) would open the flood gates to Africa and whoever else wants to come...but the majority of the Europeans isn't going for that, flushing rightist radicals/populists into the governments, and with that into the heart of the EU institutions, so that dream ends here.

You always make the same error Iron, you are removing yourself/Poland from the equation...talking about the EU as something far removed...ruled by "Marsians"...but it's all of us...everyone has the same votes and the same rights!

The EU will develop into that direction the majority will allow...so you and Poland better be part of it!

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]

She won because of her promises to the Left and the Greens.

Someone is going to be sorely disappointed...but who exactly stays to be seen! ;)

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]

"Kartoffel" (potatoe) is also a nickname for Germans by foreigners :):):)

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]

Just read that:

Germany's Paul Ziemiak met Poland's Kaczynski in a secret meeting on Sunday to advertise vdL....
(Officially Ziemiak is on holiday and officially K. is holding no office at all and also officially the german CDU neither admits nor denies this meeting:)

welt.de/politik/deutschland/article196912137/Paul-Ziemiak-warb-bei-Jaroslaw-Kaczynski-fuer-Ursula-von-der-Leyen.html

Oooookaaaay....at least one thing is already sure, she won't be the Germany's Minister for Defense anylonger, no matter what happens today in Brussels!

*phew...wipes sweat from forehead*

Good riddance! :)

PS: Paul Ziemiak is polish born...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ziemiak

GERPOLIA !!!! :)

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]


Yeah...Rackete is on a "holy" crusade!

But gladly crusaders have not that much influence on the rather more pragmatic gov (compared to the media).


In war times the soldiers would say: "No plan survives contact with reality", heh:)

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]

We aim to please! ;)

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]


Right now there is a small coalition of the self-proclaimed "willing" who are all for importing thousands of Africans, but the bigger coalition in the EU says loudly "NO" (or looks quietly the other way).

Even in Germany the opinion is split....with many also disagreeing with the NGO's and their travel services for the north african human traffickers.

The Quota system is dead, the EU mission in the Med "Sophia" has been stopped...SOME towns have agreed to take SOME refugees in if needed but that's it.

So, I don't think there will be any unwanted immigrants in Poland anytime soon...(and they will probably want go to Germany anyhow:)

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]

Stop that Pawian....I've known Iron for many, many years....I KNOW he is no Kremlin-troll!


Yeah...in a MAGA US the POTUS will only ever have use for a very obedient Poland, you do what he wants and he will throw you some crumbs, if not....

You would be never an equal, you would be a servant. And once the Chinese come, it would be the same...imagine a chinese-russian alliance...with only the EU bloc being seen and respected as equals by all of them...where would that leave poor little not-in-the-EU-all-alone-by-itself-Poland?

That's what you want for Poland? Do you think a brotherhood with Hungary will help you then? Really???