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It was found out that the old Palace of the Republic had been build with asbestos, so it was first closed and later demolished.

In it's place has been rebuild the prussian Berlin Palace of old....kind of....



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_the_Republic,_Berlin

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Palace#Reconstruction


Make it the capital! :)

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Why not? They can't be worse than Berliners....

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Gerpolia's football team would so ruuuuuule!!!! :)

*wanders off dreaming*

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...ja genau....we only ever beat you at footie now!!!

(And even that might be over now too)

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Where did I do that?

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We never have....we should start though.....just take a look at german big names and tell me which one of those are owned solely by Germans anymore!


Again....good luck with that! A big lure to get big firms and many jobs to you (or keep them there) is the exception from taxes (between other bribes)....it's a shark pool out there.

Maybe your Konfederacja will manage to work miracles where every other country failed....Germany (and I) will observe with interest!


PS: Game developing is such a niche technology like high green tech would be....nothing everybody and their grandmom does....that's the way!

But right now Games aren't feeding a whole population...(sadly:)

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Yeah....that's why China has bought out so much of the german industry (and with it old engineering skill and knowledge)....

Tell me more of this protection please!!!


Good luck with that!

All of these world wide successful brand names work and employ globally...and they are owned multi-nationally by their shareholders from all over the world (and China).

Your famous, competitive, rich company owned only by Poles and employing only Poles is only an illusion! (But so would be the same in the german variant).

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Then don't complain in a few years why others are again more competitive than you.....

With the research, developing and engineering comes highly sellable knowledge and skill for the whole high tech industry!
(Whereas everybody and their grandmom does nuclear...or even worse, coal!)


So, you want only what's best for a multi-national corporation with global interests but not for Janusz? Interesting....


The final profit is only higer because the seller could save wages and salaries with employing much cheaper foreign supplier...

Polish firms do the same, the moment they can heighten the profit through cutting wages they will relocate their production lines to somewhere cheaper. Great for the polish company, not so great for Janusz!

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....apparently I don't! :)


So, the polish supplier doesn't make a profit because of it's paid labour? The polish labourer and their families don't live better than without working for this supplier? Maybe the german company should employ german labourer in Germany again? The german unemployed would be grateful, for sure...

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Maybe that's just natural....the US has to suffer the same, all these conspiracy theories against the US between even longtime allies populations...

That's why I think all bigger powers, be it politically and/or economically, have to live with a certain amount of suspicion, hate and fear, especially from neighbours....there is not much to be done about it....it's not going away not matter what.

Once Poland rises up enough there will be for sure a "Spike" on some forum calling to be watchful of Poland and to take care it doesn't get's to powerful...heh:)

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...and I still don't know where the end goals of Germany and Poland differ so greatly?

Stability?
Freedom?
Safety?

What?

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Think about the future! The future is green tech....to invest now in a technology which is already old fashioned and being phased out is not smart! You should put your country on top of the skill- and engineering chain, then you can demand later any price you want. The bigger the technological gap to the rest of the world the better!


...and here I thought you are getting paid for your labour! :)

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Poland should go into high-green-tech and leave old stinkers like coal behind.....there lies a golden future.

Actually Germany is reliant on it's suppliers much more than the other way around....this pandemia was a good lesson for us. We depend on continous and reliable deliveries....that's not a nice feeling either!

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Erm....

Which country on Earth develops it's economy "complimentary" to another country? And which one demands that???


Good luck with that!

Right now big parts of the german industry is concerned about being bought out by chinese capital....but I guess you have no problems with that?


We buy chinese! Even if it's crap, just because it's cheaper.....

Spike, I have to wonder about your view of Germany...I fear it's not very realistic at all!

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What exactly IS the best interest of Poland? And how do you define the best interest of Germany? And I mean the end goal, the long term goal!


What exactly?

Not to mention the other member of the 3SI? How do you plan to direct them to help to fulfill Polands end goal? If that's really so different to Germany's and every others...

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And if nobody had showed up you would point it out as a sure sign of Germany's "fear"!

Right now anything Germany does or does not is a "proof" in your mind of Germany's fear or ignorance or hostility against Poland, isn't it....


There is no need for Germany to be a member....the 3SI members are also members of the EU after all.


What is it's direction now?


???


Political freedom, military security, economical stability.....yeah....totally incompatible!

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Why do you say that?

I don't know about Russia but at the latest summits some of german big wigs attended (foreign minister Maas and even german president Steinmeier).

Not to mention that many of the members are quite germany-friendly (the Baltics, Croatia, Austria)....what has Germany to fear??? And Hungary for sure is quite Russia-friendly...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Seas_Initiative


You shouldn't really put all your apples in a bag so fickle like the personal likes and dislikes of a president who will be gone after the next term at most. After Trump is gone the EU will still be there...just saying! :)

And to lick the boots of the US and/or China to gain their support doesn't mean sovereignity for Poland at all....you will never be an equal partner to them, contrary to your place in the EU, if you would commit to it fully!

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How could they not...we are cute! :)

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It doesn't matter IF you do...alone because you are the biggest member will make fellow member suspicious....soon fellow member will lament a "polonization" of the Intermarium...that it only exist to support Poland and to exploit everybody else...politicians in the other member states will make it a policy to gain voters with hostility against Poland...

Welcome! :)

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For whom?

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That's nice!

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So, the polish nationalism of old was "unhealthy"?

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"Growing into"? Seriously? Nationalism is a kind of new thing for Poles???


Na ja...it's like with socialism vs. capitalism.....capitalism won because it made more people happy than socialism. And liberal democracy is so successful because it also makes more people happy than a dictatorship or a kingdom or any other tried form of governance.

It might be that there will be another, even more successful form of society and economy....but I don't now of any yet.

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....well....then the US will have to keep on "feeding" us! So you better hope we make it work...so we can pull our own weight.

And it's not us rejecting the US, it's Trump rejecting the EU. But he will be gone sooner or later and the relationship can normalize again.

It would be better for both of us if we start rejecting China together. I'm not so sure about a hostile "Ivan" though....

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I doubt most are ready for it now....it's a generational progress...people will grow into it.

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Well....the United States of America didn't start out united either....there had even been wars leading to and keeping this unification.


It can only be a federation...as in United States of Europe! :)

Nobody said the unification of Europe will be easy or anytime soon!

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Well, that's gonna change now....

Oh and a unified defense force like the one the EU plans would be your best bet to save you the nerves and the costs to defend those ungrateful sob's.

A "crumbling" EU would be of no help....no country alone could stem the costs to supplant the US. You would need to send troops into every one of them...

So you better start cheering the EU and it's PESCO project...


Germany is already quite great, thank you! The best in Europe and at least in the top 10 of the world....:)

Or even better :)

....Germany's leading advantage is its consistent strengths across multiple reputational categories: Exports, Culture, Immigration/Investment, and Governance. Global citizens have positive feelings about buying German products and the employability of the German people, putting Germany first in both categories for 2019. Citizens from China have the highest opinion of Germany's Exports, Governance, People, and Immigration/Investments...

ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/Germany-Retains-Top

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It doesn't look good for North Stream 2


reuters.com/article/us-germany-gas-nord-stream-2/germany-denies-nord-stream-2-pipeline-waiver-of-eu-rules-idUSKBN22R1B3

Germany's energy regulator on Friday declined to grant a waiver of European Union gas directives to the operators of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, dealing a fresh blow to the project to carry gas from Russia to Germany under the Baltic Sea....


For me personally definitely!

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Feeding? What feeding???


What's smart about that? Free to make treaties on their own with Mr. "Make America great again?"

The smart Euros know that they are stronger together...the only ones profiting from disunited european countries would be Trump and Xi!

The moment the US breaks up into 50 sovereign states we can discuss again what a smart move that will be for the Americans...not to mention that the US better starts taking care of their own "crumbling" right now! You don't look so good...

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East Germans have always big fans of the US Army in Germany, believe me! They would even had wished for their occupation zone a bit bigger..

And bevor Trump there was Obama...a true love story with the Germans...and I can remember Clinton playing his saxophon at the Brandenburger Tor! And who could forget cold war hero Reagan or Kennedy and his famous speech in Berlin...

That the EU is working now on it's own defence is a reaction of Trump wanting to go it "alone" and becoming hostile to the EU....but he will be gone after another 4 years at most...so..