What do Poles think about Turks?

really ! ...... I remember the riots and disturbances way back in the late seventies and early eighties .... most weekends, Kreuzberg, Berlin.

This has got to be a p*sstake.

Really? And how long did it take for Turks to be able to acquire full civil rights and nationality in Germany?
Until the 1990's children born to 2 non-German parents could not get citizenship and even now it is only possible for children born after 1990.
It doesn't encourage integration.

With regards to the OP, I live in north Poland (I'm not Turkish) and there has been a successful turkish coffee shop (run by a Turk) here for a few years. A former student of mine has just married a Turkish guy and he's moved here. there are also a couple of Egyptian kebab houses.

Legally they were not immigrants, but people on a temporary work visa. Citizenship in Germany (and other European countries) is largely based on a principle called jus sanguinis (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis), while citizenship in the USA for example is often based on jus soli (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli).

Turkish student about Poland

Interview with Turkish student in Poland
Second interview with Turkish student in Poland

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Merged: Racism against Turks in Lodz?

Hi,
I am a Turkish student who might come to Lodz for university. I am wondering if there is any possible racism against Turks? I am a little bit dark-skinned, but not like Arabs. I am non-religious. I am not looking for a fight with anyone. I wouldn't mind some harassing words; but will there be any physical assault? I don't want to get beaten after leaving a bar/night club or even on a street. So, how bad is it?

Also, I read related threads, but they aren't satisfying.

There are plenty of Turkish people in £ódź as well as a Vietnamese community.

I would also like to get some information about this topic, I will be staying in Lodz for the next 4 months, I wonder if people would find me strange looking as I am a bit dark-skinned person.

You'll be fine. Anything physical would be a random act of violence and wouldn't matter your skin color OR you are at a location (bar) where there is trouble

There is a significant risk of racism towards you. Of course, not everyone is like this, but some are. Whether you experience any unpleasant incidents or not would depend on your luck.

Just trying to give an honest answer.

Looks/stares = Yes
Verbal abuse = Probably not, would be in Polish
Physical abuse = Unlikely especially if you avoid known troubled areas (Poles fight each other)

As you say, luck comes into it, but like many places it's sensible to avoid bad areas at night.


As I recall you left Poland as a very young child and have never been back, so how would you know what £ódź is like nowadays?

The best way to avoid racism is stay away from Polish women. Stick to Turkish women in Lodz, and you shouldn't provoke any "bald guys" attacking you.

What exactly is your problem with this? It's guys like you that give the impression to the rest of the world that Poles are primitive.

I have a problem with this. So do many Muslim men if they would see their women cavorting with kafirs.

In that case, both you and they are equally primitive.

That's a personal attack. Why is this comment allowed, but mine is not?

Because civilized and intelligent people have nothing against mixed-nationality relationships, and regard those who see things differently as 'primitive'.

Sure. I left a good response for you but it was removed. It is degenerate to support these type of relationships.

no, i suppose, there won`t be `physical assault` as long as you don`t provoke.

But, tell me, what you expect from Poles? to be happy when they see you? Man, Poles are tolerant and plus that NATO obligations that Poles right now takes seriously. But, its not easy. Its not easy to them. Turkey still hold heads of the Polish nobles that were decapitated in the middle age. Its not nice you know. Turks should return those Polish heads and just then ask for respect. So, give heads back

LOL Ranger, since when all women in Poland are "yours"? If you have a problem with your woman going out with a Turkish or other guy then first of all you should have a serious chat with your woman

i am from turkey, turkey turks are turkifizied anatolians because they accept islam. after they mixed. You can found people who are descend of hurrians,lydians or hitities.

we anatolians so called turk, we are original anatolian(pyrhgians,mitanni,hurrians,lydians etc) descenf. Ottoman is anatolian too. We just islamized ... i understand poles hate us because we want to convert them islam. its happened many years ago we aint same people...

kurdistan exist in ottoman empire and native anatolian beylik time. mosr kurds come anatolia the safawid ottoman war time. safawid killed kurds because they want to make them shia. DEAR POLISH PEOPLE IF YOUR NATIVE LAND INVADED BY FOREIGN PEOPLE HOW YOU FEEL?? WE ANATOLIANS BUILD EVERY CITY(ARTUQID BEYLIKS) OUR LAND HIDTORY IS STOLEN BY INVADERS. ITS OUR NATIVE LAND . sorry my poor english

Merged: About prejudice against Turks in Poland

Czesc, or hello everyone.I'm from Turkey and planning to live in Poland for some time. I have many Polish friends and also know Polish language and culture. People are generally don't have prejudice against Turkey in Poland(rare in Europe).

But as far as it goes, i know there are also many ignorant and racist people in Poland just like everywhere, and also in this forum unfortunately, secretly racist people.

one story i know, i talked a guy once in internet a Turk of chechen origin, a gentleman who also speaks Polish was attacked on subway. He said they make research about him before and just because his name different they found him.

After all i know Poland is civilized country, and i'm a polite, respectful person. Just wanted to be sure, how safe it's after all, as a local do you think such uncivilized behaviour happen? Am i generally safe:)

sorry if hesitating too much...Just want to be sure of things...Kocham cie ludzie

I have been coming to Poland for 14/15 years now and never encountered any problems.I am sure if you show obvious reasons someone will get you then,just be noemal and polite and you will be ok.

If you don't try or even THINK about implanting your sharia law in Poland, or try to convert people, then everything will be ok.

Behave and will be ok.

i have a problem with this(stupid ,brainless people like you). the guy already states he's non-religious, not going to change anything here and not going to enforce sharia/or that kind of stuff.

we turks are very mercilessly facing these stupid steretypes and generalizations for decades. not all turks are macho/or single minded.unfortunately some are.
ranger, ty tylko rozmawiasz bzdura i mowisz jak ty masz kobiety, jej sprawiedliwosc..jestes nonsens czlowiek

English language forum / no personal insults here

My grandmother used to say: ``Turks are people of evil father and even worse mother.``

@Crow
You're not Polish.

@Crow

Many weak nations who have been colonized in the past say similar things about those who colonized them

Understandable, given the domination of Turks over Serbia for centuries and the mess that they left behind.

Back on topic please