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Why Poles love Russia


Vlad1234 15 | 575
17 Aug 2019 #91
A significant amount of Russian communists are against Lenin's body burial. For now Russian govt. doesn't see a serious reason to engage in conflict with them over someone's body.

Fairy tales about Russo/Polish "similarities" are result of ignorace or lies on purpose.

I think the most evident similarities should be linguistic, genetic and cuisine.
Sure, Poles have plenty of Celtic and Germanic admixtures and Russians have Finno-Hungarian, Mongol, Tatar, Germanic. But in general genetics should be very similar, my guess.
Crow 137 | 7,756
18 Aug 2019 #92
That is amazing, isn't it?

I also heard about this and was shocked.

Russian communists are against Lenin's body burial. For now Russian govt. doesn't see a serious reason to engage

I tend to accept this explanation. They will probably wait till old generations naturally dies and avoid that internal antagonistic situation.
pawian 161 | 9,971
18 Aug 2019 #93
if the mummy himself wanted to buried in the ground and not be shown as an ape to everyone?

But the mummy wonderfully corroborates that nice slogan: Lenin eternally alive. :):) It has already found its place in the world`s culture, that is why they don`t want to bury it.

55% of Ukrainians and 99% of Belorussians use Russian Do you view them as a Russians? What is relation of Poles to them?

After Crimea and Donbas, even if a Ukrainian speaks Russian, it doesn`t mean they feel like ones.

With Belarussians it is different though. Their ties with Russia are very close. Many of them would have nothing against being annexed by their bigger neighbour.



Vlad1234 15 | 575
18 Aug 2019 #94
cant understand each others languages even in 50% ratio

A Ukrainian or Belarussian would understand 70% of Polish, those from areas closer to Poland maybe 80%.
Ironside 49 | 9,917
18 Aug 2019 #95
I think the most evident similarities should be linguistic, genetic and cuisine.

Let examine them:
linguistic - yes Polish and Russian are similar in that same way German and English are similar. Yet you wouldn't be understand each other without some acculturation or some basic studies.

Genetic - I don't know maybe. In my understanding before Russia stole lager part of the commonwealth and mass resettlement of people from one place to other, genetic make up of Russia was largely different to Polish, some overlapping possible due to areas of the commonwealth that has some population with Russian genetics.

Cuisine? That is the most fluid item on your list. that changes over the time. Yet I think that Russian cuisine and Polish one are different too.
Vlad1234 15 | 575
20 Aug 2019 #97
Frequency of R1a haplogroup in Europe:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a#/media/File:Distribution_Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.svg

eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml
Miloslaw 6 | 2,585
20 Aug 2019 #98
yes Polish and Russian are similar

Yes but not similar enough to have more than just a basic conversation.
But the question is much deeper than that.
What is a Russian?
The country is so vast that it encompasses so many different people who are culturaly, ethnically and linguistically different.
I can't remember the percentage, but I recently read that a large minority of Russians do not speak Russian as their first language.
Vlad1234 15 | 575
20 Aug 2019 #99
Yes but not similar enough to have more than just a basic conversation.

I wouldn't claim that even a basic conversation is always possible, but still there are many words with common roots and origins. Even more when you go to archaic words. It doesn't have any relation to politics, of course, but common people need to move in direction to get out of hate. In many countries - US, UK, Canada millions of Poles, Ukrainians, Russians live side by side now and need to cooperate.
gumishu 11 | 5,017
20 Aug 2019 #100
culturaly, ethnically and linguistically different.

culturally? yes; ethnically? well yes? lingusitcally? they all speak Russian - those Buriats, Yakuts, Bashkirs are a bit like Natives in the US
Ironside 49 | 9,917
20 Aug 2019 #101
here are many words with common roots and origins.

So what?
Vlad1234 15 | 575
21 Aug 2019 #102
I think in many countries common people including immigrants may go well along together.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,819
21 Aug 2019 #103
For three reasons: (1) the process is slow, (2) people are too stupid to predict the long-term consequences, and (3) they have no choice.
When they finally wise up, it's too late as in the US and Western Europe.
Did I mention that I love that wall in Israel and the guys with rifles in the towers?


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