Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians?

someone with a bad taste I suppose

I guess the Germans'women must be tight, considering it was Germans who wanted smaller condom sizes:
4-men.org/germanpenis.html

Lot's of European girls seemingly! :)

The Wehrmacht had nice times in countries like Holland or France...

yeah sure, and Dirlewanger was a "gentleman" too
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Dirlewanger

Erm...and this has to do with handsome Fritz having a nice evening with Francine or Duchine in what way? :)

Stop being so bitter and move on, the war is over for 60 years!

Common joke in Holland about the War is: in 1940 we invited a German friend over - he took 100,000's of them with him and overstayed his visit with about 5 years. Never again we will invite German friends over.

M-G (Sauerkraut)

says man who is whining about "polish cruelty against Germans"

And what's your problem M-G?
I know alot of your cheese heads resent the fact being the wart on our german ass but we can't help it, sorry!

:)

Leave our German friend, Bratwurst Boy out of it! : )

Ja...genau! :)

Just because they got a bit marched over 60 years back they want to re-fight it with me...

Ja! Anyway, Greece was swarming with Germans too in WW2. By logic, I should be angry at Germans too. Bratwurst, isn't that so? Did Germans respect Greece? Is that why much of the country was not destroyed?

German soldiers always respected a brave fighting enemy, you can bet on it! :)

Just pulling some strings here :) And sorry that we cheesheads have always been living in a richer country than you Sauerkrauts :)

(does not believe in war anyway)

M-G

Javol! *salutes*

Apparently so.
That must be why they murdered millions of defenseless women and children.

*salutes back*

Prost

LOL
I don't tolerate generally bringing up the war again to pick on our German friends, but I do not tolerate glorifying it either.

M-G (got 75% of his family killed in Treblinka and Auschwitz - just because they were Jewish)

This is the truth, Darius. But it is well known that the actual military units of the Army, of the Wermacht, rarely killed unarmed soldiers or civilians, and usually took them captive. These were the laymen, who really weren't as hypnotized as the SS units (who murdered in the concentration camps)

True, the Wehrmacht were just ordinairy German boys who were drafted and had nothing to do with the SS and extermination and so on. They were even disgusted by the SS. Hitler ordered the Einzatsgruppen to operate covertly as he feared the army would revolt against them. And there were questions about those practises on the highest levels within the Wehrmacht.

M-G

Hey, there were even fairly nice fellas within Gestapo and SS, but I wouldn't be so romantic about Wehrmacht.

Yes. I mean, you cannot overlook the fact that many of them were just as blind in their following, if not more, than the other divisions. But to paint them all with the same brush as the SS is not fair, I think. Many of the Wehrmacht draftees, especially late in the war, were very young and not willing to fight for Hitler, but were forced to because of the penalties that faced them. If you did not agree, I believe many of them were thrown into camps, just like the Jews and treated as traitors.

The SS units on the other hand, you really had to have been a sick, demented man/woman to serve there... Just thinking about gets my blood boiling.

Yep Darius, they did not resemble humans with human behaviour, those Germans in Poland...I can understand why so many older Polish ppl deeply resent anything German...This is a crime and shame which cannot be undone, at least not for the first 200 years. Ok, it will become less when the last one who lived at the time dies, but still, the monuments are there: Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor. Monuments that have perverted the Polish nation with the biggest burden one country can ever bear and it has been inflicted upon them by another country.

Filios: Pls watch the Dutch movie "Twins", which exists in an English version also, and you will know that not all SS-soldiers were perverted and sick swines.

M-G

Be fair about the Wehrmacht...they were in a war for 6 years spanning Europe and even Africa. Crimes and Atrocities are bound to happen. It's only that the german arms are possibly the most researched army ever...they could hardly have taken a **** that won't show up in a book somewhere.

Every army in a conflict does bad things...but the Wehrmacht was neither better nor worse than others.

And an important point is that the armies of the victors rarely if at all got scrutinized of war crimes and atrocities...so it looks to an uneducated observer as if the germans did all the bad things and everybody else was peachy clean...that's not true either!

I was not being romantic, I was simply being fair to some of these men serving there.
I knew about these crimes from the Wehrmacht as well... some of them very revolting indeed.

Apropos...what do you think about that M-G?

I hope you are not referring to the Holocaust?
And: being Jewish does not automatically mean I condone everything Israël does - in fact I strongly disagree with them for over 10 years now.

M-G

I was still talking about the Wehrmacht, the ordinary Landser....and you?

Just making sure.

M-G

There is a difference between bad things happening and bad things being a result of a policy and orders. German soldiers have been always undoubtedly subordinate so they followed the Fuhrer's words:

"Kill without mercy every man, woman, and child of Polish extraction."

But they didn't, didn't they?

What's your beef with Germany that you even today use "Nazi" or "Hun" in your arguments?

But they did.


No beef with Germany nor most German, only with you when you glorify war criminals.