Why American military aid to Europe and Poland is important to America itself?

Nothing like that will happen.

Hey, Euros, Why does the US need NATO to defend itself?

US needs NATO mainly to sell weapons made in USA to these countries at high prices, and US also needs a local war from time to time for the same reason

Yes, this is a goldmine.

Children, the following is verbal contortionism at its best...

The US protects itself by protecting Europe.
Need more money? Print more money.

End of the class. See you tomorrow

You are so wrong!

Of course it DOES!

Where or what would America be without Europe?

History explains...... Americans saw it late, but they soon realised in both world wars that they needed Europe, perhaps more than Europe needed America.

America would be in America. Europe in Europe. Asia in Asia.
Any other questions?

...but not the other way around...

Since I heard so many times that Europe does not need the US, I am concluding that without the US Europe would be fine.

Would that be correct?

There are two options.
You are a Russian troll or you don't understand what is going on in the words politics big time.
Believe what you want because explaining anything to a troll or an ignorant person wastes time.

Third option.... malignant narcissist who says anything to get attention from others and monopolize their time.... not worth noticing or engaging with

Enlighten me, please...

Why does the US need you, Euro parasites, and NATO to be safe?

Mexico doesn't. Brazil doesn't. Argentina doesn't. But the US, the most powerful country on Earth, needs some azholes in Europe...

Comprehension, dude, I can't you are either troll or an ignorant narrow-minded F that doesn't know his ass from his elbow when it comes to world politics.
Mission impossible.
Troll, it is clear - what not.
The other one is like teaching a kid who has never studied math and started talking in his opinion about Algebraic Number Theory while people would hear two plus two equals four.
What I can say is bravo you got it right. Now what are we talking about again? Basic equations? I think not.

Skip analogies...

Why does the US need you, Euro parasites, and NATO to be safe?

Mexico doesn't. Brazil doesn't. Argentina doesn't. But the US, the most powerful country on Earth, needs some azholes in Europe...

Yes, but not powerful enough to contain Russia or China on your own. You need European democracies as allies. Simple.
Unless Americans wish to be owned by China or Russia. Do they??

Neither is Mexico, Brazil, and Argentina...

They don't need European parasites. Neither does the US.


China can't take Taiwan. Russia can't defeat Ukraine. But they will invade the US...

Is every Polak a moron or is it just you?

I asked you a question. Do most Americans wish to be owned by China or Russia??

Ask them.

The US does not need Europe other than as a landing strip.

Listen maggot do you dare to include Poland in it? What a retard!
If anything you the US parasite sucked out billions of dollars for your military junk from Poland.

You haven't done a thing for Poland. Tell me how much money you put into defending Poland or what war were they you defended Poland. So far a big fat zero! So shut the F up!
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As for the rest of Europe do you think your Yankee asses are so welcomed here? You isolationist fringe nutters are a clueless bunch. Germany and France don't want your assed here. Italy and Spain don't care that much.
the only significant countries in Europe like Poland Sweden and maybe Romnir would like to see you present due to Russia. Well of course Ukiniae too.
All other rest either don't care or as I said want you out.
So what is stopping the US to pack up its crap closing your bases and move out?
Why are you coming to whine here stupid? Do you have dementia like you persistent?
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By the way, the only country that is on the US welfare is Israel but you seem to like it so much you almost rim them.
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Also that billions of dollars deal that goes to Ukraine has nothing to do with NATO, stupid. Ukraine is not in NATO.
Anyway, 95% of those are being printed in the federal reserve, and go to your industrial military complex to pay for new American toys, it is economic stimuli for the American economy.
These few dollars left that re handed to Unrinakek got all the spotlight.
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The fact you yapping about American taxpayers means you are stupid. As they say, play a stupid game and win a stupid prize.

Wow, Iron, I am impressed. You destroyed Novi completely. :):):)

Good. Poland didn't do shlt for the US other than create a risk of a war with Russia.

The rest of your post is nothing but a justification for the US insane policies.

The bottom line:
The US does not need you, azholes, to be safe.

That's the only subject I am willing to discuss. Take your geo sophistry somewhere else.

One more time if you forgot...

The US does not need you, azholes, to be safe.

NATO is business for the US (selling US-made military equipment, annual contribution fees, etc). In return, Europe gets a "sense" of stability. It's a little like paying body guards; they may not be needed 364 days a year, but if they are and you don't have them, you're screwed. Or like with a regular insurance, you pay 10 years for "nothing" but one year could save you.

This has nothing to do with the original purpose. NATO was not created for the US fat cats to get fatter...

The US does not need NATO to be safe. Period.

If NATO was such a good business for us, the US would not be spending 1 trillion of taxpayers' money every damn year.

So it works as planned, the money go to private military contractors supported by certain US senators (that's how they got into the power), US banks, hedge funds, etc. They don't care about US taxpayers, either. Do politicians care about tax payers? Nope.

@Ironside
Your rant is delusional. Poland buys from the US because it is the best supplier of the highest grade military items. Where is all the garbage from South Korea?

Germany doesnt want the US military? LMFAO watch the US pull out its military and Germany sh1t itself. Fance? Those pussies will sell their souls for protection because thier military is a joke.

What happens to Poland if 50K US troops are pulled out? I will tell you that the 150K Polish military people ch1t thier pants immediately. Cancel contracts to buy US MIC products? Go ahead and get ready for the next invasion.

The fact that you are yapping about European and Polish people not needing the US is the real joke here. If the US leaves NATO, Europe is completely fvcked, and it could be fvcked from the inside and not even by Russia. Everyone loves the US when they get what they want how they want, but when the US doesnt do what the others want, they are critical. IF the US leaves the EU, the USSR will return in less than 20 years.

You are not entitled to turn cynical without first saying that I am right. Then we can be cynics together.

Thanks, PAK. Got it, azholes?

Of course the US doesn't technically need NATO. However, does Apple or Gorg (google) need China? They don't, but they will virtually do anything (including 100% censorship) to do business in China. US tax payers are scammed for paying this much to support NATO or Pentagon; if given a choice (referendum), most of them would want the US to pull out of Nato, but due to the reasons I mentioned above it's not going to happen and the business will go on as usual.

Remove "technically" and we are OK.

Now we are brothers if not twins.

I feel so much better now...

Wow retard, you can even refute that post. Your weak ass had been whooped. Go and cry in shame in the corner.
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Why don't you answer my question? What the US has done for /Poland? Eh? What war did you fight in defense of Poland?
You know you have done - nothing!
What has Poland done? Supported your wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our boys died in those wars for your Yankee interest.
You ungrateful curl. S';t? How dare you punk?
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You as a dementia patient zero need to tattoo it on your arm. You seem to be forgetting, - Who is keeping you in Europe? Pack your bags, close your bases, and F off when you come from. What stopping>?
That is another question you can't answer can you moron?
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Ach and explain to me why keeping Israel on your welfare is essential to the USA security. Is Israel vital to the US safety? Explain that one, will you?
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Nope, Poland buys from the US mainly because you are our biggest and strongest ally. Many optional products are on par with American junk and cheaper and without many disadvantages from buying from the USA.
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Read with comprehension, will you?
I said that countries that want an American military presence in Europe are Poland and one or two other countries.
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Imagine that. No, they don't want you Yankee ass on their soil. Imagine somebody wouldn't want the mighty Yankees' narcissistic presence in their country, you can only laugh. lol! I can't help with your lack of imagination.
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Don't worry about Europe, focus on the US, What is your problem? You whine and complain so much but when you are told you are free to leave you have second thoughts. What's up with you?

Nothing. That's why Poland should send the US packing and replace it with the Armed Forces of Portugal. The are NATO, too, so you would be just as safe.


I agree with you so why are you barking?

Yes, the US needs Europe to be safe from China and Russia as it does Monte Carlo.


Again, I agree so stop barking...

Rich, you are unbelievably naive at times......you seem to base yourself on the logical character of Spock in Star Trek, but his fatal flaw was that he didn't understand humans.You are the same!!! Your logic ignores human beings and so it doesn't work!

The USA absolutely needs Europe to survive as a sustainable nation.

Americans, belatedly, realised that in both world wars.

America without Europe is nothing.........