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Lenka  5 | 3540
10 Jul 2024   #811
Poles that Vilnius is a Lithuanian city.

It is now. Unlike Russians we can acknowledge that while it was Polish and will always be heavily intertwined with Poland, it is not ours anymore.
Maybe you should learn that.
Bobko  28 | 2363
10 Jul 2024   #812
Maybe you should learn that

No. You can learn that, and good luck.

We are still able to affect the real world, and materialize our dreams.

That's the difference, between everybody who's crying and moaning (Poland, France, UK, etc) - and those that are trying to still fix things (US, China, India, Brazil, etc).

Devoid of any ability to affect anything - even a modest policy change in a neighboring government - you people have only "morals" and "principles" to fall back on.

Where these "morals" and "principles" were when everything was going honky-dory... that's anyone's guess.

It seems people's "values" and "principles" only awaken when they are no longer able to be active agents.
Ironside  50 | 12484
10 Jul 2024   #813
It seems people's "values" and "principles" only awaken when they are no longer able to be active agents.

It seems like a reasonable proposition. However, there is a catch. I was always better to be an average citizen in Poland than in Ruiissa Socviet Uniona or Moscoe and that's the ultimate factor that trumps your claim.
Yes. power affects the outcome and is important, but if you have only power like Russia, you will always be a third-rate empire. no matter what...
OP Torq  8 | 955
10 Jul 2024   #814
@Bobko

Ouch!

That hurt, Bobi. But perhaps not all things are set in stone in Samogitia and elsewhere, who knows? :)
Bobko  28 | 2363
10 Jul 2024   #815
like Russia, you will always be a third-rate empire. no matter what...

How can you build a first rate empire, when instead of Indians and Malays, you have goddamn Poles and stupid f*ckin Balts and Finns?

Even a monkey could colonize India and the Philippines.

Try colonizing Poland or Moldavia - and then write me a report about how it went.
Ironside  50 | 12484
10 Jul 2024   #816
Even a monkey could colonize India

That is what you say now. It wasn't that rosy back then., However, the US colonized nobody.
Bobko  28 | 2363
10 Jul 2024   #817
However, the US colonized nobody.

1) Philippines (annexed from Empire of Spain)
2) Cuba (annexed from Empire of Spain)
3) Samoa (1899)
4) Guam (1899)
5) Mariana Islands (same as above)
6) Puerto Rico (ibid)

Late to the scene, and a country that had fought for its own independence - America didn't have as much time to colonize as the Europeans did - but it did a decent job.

Then through WWI and WW2 they stripped the Danish, Dutch, English, and others of further colonies.

Study US history - you may be surprised what you learn.
Lenka  5 | 3540
10 Jul 2024   #818
We are still able to affect the real world, and materialize our dreams.

You mean start a war? Wow, that is an accomplishment! Congrats!
Power is important but power used in the wrong way makes you a bully.
I think there are few things that even a Russian has to accept as downsides of the situation :
- Ukrainians will hate you for years to come, pi*sing on your ideas of being the same nation or brothers.
- the rest of the world seems less scared of Russia then ever.
Bobko  28 | 2363
10 Jul 2024   #819
1)
Ukrainians will hate you for years

They have been there before - and we are very patient people.

2)
the rest of the world seems less scared of Russia then ever.

Good.
mafketis  38 | 11106
10 Jul 2024   #820
many a Russian statesman has said over the centuries, is the "Mother of All Russian Cities"

Fascinating..... and completely irrelevant....

Study US history

Nobody knows US history (in a superficial way) more than russian wannabes..... almost everything they do is to try to get US attention and respect (they just don't have any idea how... kind of sad and pathetic).
Bobko  28 | 2363
10 Jul 2024   #821
Nobody knows US history (in a superficial way) more than russian wannabes...

Why?

Because being conversant in US history is not good for mental health of persons such as you?
mafketis  38 | 11106
10 Jul 2024   #822
Why?

Cause russia wants to be more than it is.... more than it can be given socio-cultural realities (of being ruled by a bunch of psychopathic thieves).
OP Torq  8 | 955
10 Jul 2024   #823
russia wants to be more than it is

Every country should want to be more than it is.

The methods to achieve the goal will of course inevitably vary.
Bobko  28 | 2363
10 Jul 2024   #824
Cause russia wants to be more than it is.... more

Russia's heart is as hot as the Sun, our soul - wider than the Universe.

What can be "more" than Russia?

We have everything in abundance, too much even for ourselves - we need nothing, except for your respect.

No... you are wrong. Russia has no borders, and there is nothing that can contain it.
Ironside  50 | 12484
10 Jul 2024   #825
you have goddamn Poles and stupid f*ckin Balts and Finns

That is what happens when an inferior culture tries to dominate countries with superior culture with only brute force and a little bit of cunning, Now you are talking.
Bobko  28 | 2363
10 Jul 2024   #826
dominate countries with superior culture

Yes because Russian culture in the 19th century was inferior to Polish, Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian and Finnish culture.

When nobody wanted to listen to you in Paris, London, Geneva, etc - you could be a professor in Russia.

What a terrible tragedy.
mafketis  38 | 11106
10 Jul 2024   #827
Every country should want to be more than it is.

russia wants to recreate the USSR and subjugate all countries around it (including Poland)..... why do I think this?

In other news zhopniks have gone from a micro-second of shame about targeting sick children to demanding more....

x.com/AlexBondODUA/status/1811128375169163599
Bobko  28 | 2363
10 Jul 2024   #828
russia wants to recreate the USSR and subjugate all countries around it

The game is in play, and the results are yet to be determined. Let's see who comes out on top.

Given that the West has a population at least seven times larger, and an economic potential at least 20X the size - you would think this would be a quick affair.
mafketis  38 | 11106
10 Jul 2024   #829
you would think this would be a quick affair.

The west keeps expecting russians to act rationally and doesn't want to believe russia is actually serious.... kind of like torq.

I know that rationality is the last thing motivating russians and that they're serious and treating them like a normal country won't work.
Ironside  50 | 12484
10 Jul 2024   #830
Yes because Russian culture in the 19th century was inferior to Polish

You can argue otherwise but you would hard pressed to provide solid evidence for it because of some overvalued names.
OP Torq  8 | 955
10 Jul 2024   #831
you would think this would be a quick affair

It would be if it wasn't for nuclear weapons.

That's why I don't like nukes - they stop the natural selection process on countries' level.
Novichok  5 | 8482
10 Jul 2024   #832
I know that rationality is the last thing motivating Russians

...as opposed to the very rational West as demonstrated in KVIAU. How many people died for all that rational rationality and what the US and its who*res got for It?

Hey, maf, there are things that rational men (women are never rational so I exclude them) should never say - "the last ting" being one of them - unless you are a pussy engaging in girlie talk.

The problem is that you don't know what motivates Russians and the remaining 7 billion people. On top of that, you don't know if rationality is the first, last, or in-between as a motivator.

My advice to PF emotial girlie pussies: Don't post meaningless shitt just to say something.
OP Torq  8 | 955
11 Jul 2024   #833
In the lap of luxury: 1969

Local dignitaries at the opening of the legendary Sezam department store in Warsaw. I have to say the choice of gherkins was impressive!
OP Torq  8 | 955
13 Jul 2024   #834
Class photo: 1936

Students of the only school in Silesian village of Makoszowy (population 3300) posing for a class photo. If you take a look at the wall, you will notice three most important persons in Poland back then: President Ignacy Mościcki, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and Marshal Józef Piłsudski (not necessarily in that order). 90% of the village inhabitants were Poles, the remaining 10% Germans, and a lot of people from Makoszowy worked on the German side of the border in "Delbrück" coal mine.
Alien  25 | 6002
13 Jul 2024   #835
Class photo: 1936

Why is there an eagle without a crown?
OP Torq  8 | 955
13 Jul 2024   #836
an eagle without a crown?

Dark gold on dark red on a low quality black and white photo. There's a crown, don't worry.
Ironside  50 | 12484
13 Jul 2024   #837
My advice to PF emotial girlie pussies: Don't post meaningless shitt just to say something.
@ Novichok

Here's that trolling. You post rubbish because you like it, you attack people you don't know because you like and can get away with it. There is no debate or reasoning behind it, That is pure trolling. Judging by the post you are driven by emotions much more than maf.
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OP Torq  8 | 955
15 Jul 2024   #838
You will be assimilated, resistance is futile: 2024

The 33rd Pilgrimage of Radio Maryja Family to Jasna Góra attracted representatives of parishes from all over Poland. The three gentlemen in the photo came to Częstochowa from Kalisz to pray and praise Our Lord Jesus Christ and his Holy Mother Saint Virgin Mary Queen of Poland.

Now I can retire for my summer holidays with clear conscience. :)
Poloniusz  5 | 937
15 Jul 2024   #839
You will be assimilated, resistance is futile

Poland needs more Jews.


Alien  25 | 6002
15 Jul 2024   #840
needs more Jews

Those here must have been walking through the desert for 40 years. 🤔

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