Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread

Ukrainization of Poland: 2024

Not a photo but graphics today, depicting a socio-political process called "ukrainizacja Polski". Whether it is a real thing/threat remains to be seen. Those interested I refer to the article "Czy czeka nas konflikt etniczny?" in the most recent issue of Do Rzeczy.

Good topic for habilitation.

A few years ago, we used to get Ukrainian people knocking on our door. They'd heard that a Ukrainian persno lives there who has a good job and citizenship and wanted to know how it was done. Now we get old ladies kockig on the door saing they've heard that a Ukrainian lives there and would he like to come to an important meeting. When pushed, they say it's a meeting about the Bible and leave copies of The Watchtower.

They are harmless, but you should not let them into your home.

I grew up around them and have quite a few longstanding friends from that subculture. They're usually fine as long as you don't get into discussing religion.

Often very nice people, albeit with a rather bleak worldview. Plus the converts to it are very keen and when doing missionary work some can be a bit persistent. Others are more half hearted and the6 actually get very few converts despite all that standing in town next to racks of leaflets.

I always smile and say hello when I pass them though.

I try not to engage in discussions with them, not because I have anything against them, but because it's simply a waste of my time.

I've read the beginning of this article that is available for free and I think this newspaper should be renamed "Od Rzeczy", because just based on that fragment I can see it's nonsense.


I think that anyone with a brain and capable of logical thinking realises that nothing "remains to be seen" lol A chunk of Ukraine was part of our country for quite a while and they didn't "Ukranise" Poland, so how could they possibly do that now? lol

There are 2 mln Ukrainians in Poland presently and this number stabilised - there's no increase:

businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/oto-ile-ukraincy-wydaja-w-polsce-sa-nowe-dane/whz72mv

I'm not sure if the author of the article in "Do Rzeczy" understands what the term "Ukrainisation" even means o_O 🤦


Yeah, I've experienced it myself lol

Ewa Faryaszewska was born in 1920 in Dąbrowa Górnicza. After her father died in 1938 she moved with her mother and siblings to Warsaw. She was a scout and studied painting at the Academy of Fine Arts in Warsaw. During the Nazi occupation she was a corporal in the Home Army scout battalion "Wigry". At the time of the Warsaw Uprising she was a member of a team responsible for saving Polish national cultural heritage. Since photography was also her passion she was documenting the destruction of Warsaw's Old Town by taking colour photos. A book was published with her photographs:

muzeumwarszawy.pl/fotografie-ruin-ruiny-fotografii-1944-2014/





Today is her death anniversary. She was badly injured in the Warsaw Uprising and died on August 28, 1944. She was 24. 🪔

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I can only imagine how her heart ached when she was taking those photos.

Depending on the policies of the state if it is going to be half-arsed like it is now it well might be the future. I think that all those Ukrainians who don't want to assimilate in Poland should move back or out elsewhere. It is a foolish idea to lose a large chunk of ancient Polish land into a newly minted /Ukrainian state just for them to keep it but instead make Poland a multiethnic state against a much smaller area. No, thank you.
If we're going to have a multiethnic state give our land back, simple.

A fragment of an article about Faryaszewska (my translation):

warszawa.naszemiasto.pl/ewa-faryaszewska-bohaterska-laczniczka-ze-starego-miasta/ar/c15-7295705

"On August 1, 1944 Faryaszewska was at her art studio at Rybaki street. She set out from there to the Uprising, towards the Old Town, where her unit was gathering. There, since August 8 in the cooperation with a former employee of the National Museum, Sub-Lt. Zygmunt Miechowski aka "Kustosz" ("Curator"), she was saving exhibits and works of art. Risking her life, under fire and sometimes under the very nose of Germans, she was getting out the more valuable objects from churches, institutions and private homes. She was putting them in storage in the cellars of Barczykowska tenement house (Old Town Market Place 32), where before the war a Museum of the Old Warsaw was planned to be established. Here paintings, sculptures, fabrics and old ceramics were being segregated, signed and secured from fire and damp. Faryaszewska was also preparing leaflets for the people of Warsaw instructing them on how to save works of art and where to bring them in case of danger."

That tenement house was built around 1440. It burned down in 1944, but the cellars and parts of walls survived. It was rebuilt and nowadays it hosts the Museum of Warsaw, as planned before the war.

Very interesting! Thank you for this valuable addition to this thread, Paulina.


There are hardly any Poles there these day, and it's the wasps' nest - remember. Do we really need this?

And then populate it with polonised Ukrainians! Amasing idea! Thanks, Iron.

in that case, we don't need Ukrainians in Poland.

@Ironside

The problem is that YOU don`t need Ukrainian immigrants coz you have your American pension which is enough to provide you basic subsistence. But millions of Poles and Polesses don`t have it so they depend on young people`s taxes into the budget. Thanks to PiS rightists` and your nationalist murderers` crazy policies towards women, less and less babies are born each year. That is why we need immigrants.

Can I ask you to stop talking on behalf of Poles and Polesses coz you are an alien body here, returning to Poland after 30 years of useless life abroad???

right? Here a casual observer can see why Pawian is a plank who does #rt know anything.
Refugees - Old men and women, women with children on Polish welfare paid by the Poolish taxpayers, those few Ukrainians who are working in Poland won't even pay enough to cover for all that.
Ignore the rest of your buzzing nonsense- talk to mosquitos they might lend you a sympathetic ear.

Hello, fellow youngsters: 2024

Ruling government's politicians: Barbara Nowacka (49), Rafał Trzaskowski (52) and Sławomir Nitras (51) during a meeting with students in Olsztyn. :)

The photos today don't require any comment from me. They comment themselves; they are self-commenting, so to speak. :)

What is so important for history in the meeting of a few politicians with the youth??

It seems you got lost a little in your latest input here.

This thread has evolved from historic photos only to quotidian scenes from everyday life and public events too.

No, there was no evolution. You made a revolution in it. Please, get back to your initial intention here and start a new thread for current events which haven`t become history yet.
The Staff are monitoring us all the time, remember.

There were many photos very early in this thread which are hardly 'historic' (2023, 2024).

I don't see what your problem is. Campus Polska in Olsztyn already happened, so it's history now.

No, history becomes itself after years or decades at least. History means that sth happened and is no more what it was. While the youth and politicians who participated in the Campus a few days ago are still the same as they were.


My problem is that you abuse history which is magistra vitea.

It's 'vitae'. Your Latin is getting rusty.

But OK... let's say the newest photos will be 2019. Happy now?

That`s exactly what I had in mind. I don`t know why my fingers typed differently. It is aging. Don`t ridicule me coz you will run into similar issues soon.

Ridicule? Far from it. A mere brotherly correction.

We are Poles. If our Latin is not correct, where are we in our lives?

Glad it was just a typo. Are you happy with the 2019 caesura?

Yes, on condition it is really historic and historical as well which means people and things have changed since then.

@Pawian

You got it.

But be vigilant like ważka w okresie rui and reprimand me if I stray from the path again.

Peace.

First to Fight: 1939



No more appeasing the monster, no more disgrace over honour - Poland will fight the nazi beast...

Abandoned by her allies, attacked from every direction on the entire length of the border, all alone...

Brave soldiers willing to lay their lives down for their country but poorly equipped and led by commanders ready for the previous war not this one...

85 years today... how the time flies...

CZEŚĆ I CHWAŁA BOHATEROM!

The Polish cavalry did not attack German tanks. For that they had mobile anti-tank guns and, for those times, very modern anti-tank rifles.