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Were Marx, Lenin and Luxemburg right about capitalism?


Novichok  4 | 9027
25 Feb 2025   #31
Your drivel doesn't have much effect on me, Ryszard

Drivel?

It's the leftists like you who help women abort. 60 million babies since Roe so my Auschwitz comment is mild by comparison...
johnny reb  49 | 8077
25 Feb 2025   #32
you'd be delighted if this forum shuts down through lack of users.

That's not why its going to be shut down because that is only half the reason.
You know the other half.
Novichok  4 | 9027
25 Feb 2025   #33
You know the other half.

The other half is that leftists are unable to debate facts. So they resort to personal comments, jokes, evasions...and misspelling insults....
pawian  226 | 27563
25 Feb 2025   #34
to live on those "abundant social benefits".

Millions already do and they are quite satisfied. Other millions try to enter Europe to obtain them. It means they are abundant. Simple. Ha!!!!

the middle class has been shrinking

Shrinking isn`t extinction yet. Human tails have shrunk to the minimal size but does it imply dying out???? No. :):):)

that could possibly be improved?

Everything can be improved. Yet, there is a wise Polish saying: the better is the enemy of good. Do you mean what it knows???? :):):)
pawian  226 | 27563
25 Feb 2025   #35
Millions are quite satisfied.

E.g, what do you know about German benefits for everybody and for everything???
jon357  72 | 23557
26 Feb 2025   #36
Don't know about Germany but in Poland the left seems to be totally fixated on genital issues

That sounds like the Razem bourgeois left rather than the SLD workers' left.

Other countries have the same split too. I prefer the workers' left, however they really do refuse to evolve sometimes and get stubborn. The problem with grassroots organisations ids that they are resistant to change.

If they could only somehow break this magical fixation on genitals and concentrate on traditional leftist aims, they would gain much more support.

I kind of agree, however LGBT (at least the first three letters) isn't about genitals. It's about people iving a decent life without hassle from individuals and sectors of society who have unwanted same-sex 'ueges' and wish they didn't, translating that to hostility and exclusion.

Socialism is entirely about workers' control over the means of production and getting the full fruits of their labour. As long as the right wing is infused with bigotry though, the blue haired and tattooed people will stand with us (or claim to) and we will stand with them.
Ironside  50 | 13053
26 Feb 2025   #37
however LGBT (at least the first three letters) isn't about genitals.

Indeed it is about Marxist revolution and establishment of a totalitarian régime.
Lyzko  45 | 9751
26 Feb 2025   #38
Communism in the end is far too idealistic to work effectively!
The profit motive and the spirit of competition are natural human
instincts, survival instincts, if you will.

Of course there are the clear excesses of capitalism, look at the post-Reagan
Era, in particular, Donald Trump or the fictional character Gordon Gecko ("Greed is good").

However, it's part of human nature to want to excel and strive to continually do better.
Novichok  4 | 9027
26 Feb 2025   #39
Indeed it is about Marxist revolution and establishment of a totalitarian régime.

Bingo! That was brilliant, Iron.

LGBT perverts' main objective is not to fvck freely. This they have been able to do since Nero.

What they want is to disconnect society from the truth. When nothing is objectively true, the manupulators can make us believe any lie they want.

Like that a man can be a woman by just saying: I am a woman. Or that being gay is normal and without consequences.

If you don't obey, you are an evil person who should be fired - if not thrown into a gulag - and rendered powerless.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12019
26 Feb 2025   #40
I guess once the Left cuts all that minority/foreigner/LGBT stuff out and concentrates again on the real workers they might get back to old power.

But till then they will have alot of rethinking and most probably a generational change to do....the current crop of self declared leftists have lost most of their credibility, especially with their usual audience, the workers.

It will be hard work, and will take years, but it could be done...and I would even say needs to be done, for the political balance!
Novichok  4 | 9027
26 Feb 2025   #41
and concentrates again on the real workers they might get back to old power.

To the left, all that LGBT and other woke crap - like global warming - is like religion.

They can't one day say: Sorry, gullible azzholes and children...Them were all lies...We gotto try something else...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12019
26 Feb 2025   #42
.....hence the need for a few years in the opposition....
Novichok  4 | 9027
27 Feb 2025   #43
...to come up with better lies...Chicks with dicks lost its allure and credibility.
jon357  72 | 23557
27 Feb 2025   #44
Indeed it is about Marxist revolution and establishment of a totalitarian régime.

Hard to know where you pulled that bit of nonsense from.

Communism

There seems to be an odd idea that Marxist-Leninist-Kimilsungist thought is the gold standard of the Workersa' Movement. It isn't, any more than a moderate, one-nation conservatism wants fascism.

the Left cuts all that minority/foreigner/LGBT

That won't happen, any more than your far right politicians won't cut out nationalism.


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