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Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West


Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11863
5 Sep 2023   #91
Very precise analysis of the prewar Poland's position.

.....no....I meant a real link....something to study....proven documents....books....articles by some historical scholars....something like that, you know?

During that whole video you hear only the opinions of these two who just have a talk....not ONE document or anything else substantial is shown...you understand what I mean?

(I truly waited for the laptop to be turned around to the audience with some proof:)

Even if it's true....especially if it's true....they need alot more to convince Europe and the World!
Luke1410  - | 146
5 Sep 2023   #92
During that whole video you hear only the opinions of these two who just have a talk...

Oh dear... the threshold required for getting us to believe something these days is worryingly low.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #93
some historical scholars...

Do you mean western scholar? No, no, they do not deserve even mentioning.
Novichok  5 | 8185
5 Sep 2023   #94
...like "Western press"...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11863
5 Sep 2023   #95
Do you mean western scholar?

Any scholar?

If that is taught in Russia, there need to be some material presented, right?
mafketis  38 | 11076
5 Sep 2023   #96
If that is taught in Russia, there need to be some material presented, right?

Sweet summer child.... this is russia.... only the say so of the tsar is needed.

Then the people believe (if they know what's good for them).
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #97
If that is taught in Russia, there need to be some material presented, right?

You mean like for the claim that the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 was a "fascist revolt organised by the West"?? :D What kind of "material" they can possibly present for that? ;D

Where have you been, BB?:

magyarnemzet.hu/english/2023/08/new-russian-textbook-falsifies-history-regarding-hungarian-revolution-of-1956

Sweet summer child.... this is russia....

Indeed... o_O
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #98
fascist revolt organised by the West"?? :

Isn't that true?
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #99
@ConstantineK, oh, sweetheart, no, it isn't true... Didn't you know that??

sigh
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #100
Come on, we all know that western historical education is full of gaps.
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #101
@ConstantineK, you must mean RuSSian historical education. I don't know about all people in the world, but I defenitely know about serious, big gaps in historical education in RuSSia. Not only that - you people falsify history. Falsifying history seems to be a sickening RuSSian tradition already.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #102
you must mean RuSSian historical education. I don't know about all people in the world, but I defenitely know about

It is your own subjective view, and nothing more than that.
jon357  73 | 23221
5 Sep 2023   #103
big gaps in historical education in RuSSia

I find it bizarre that they (and some other countries) use officially approved textbooks in schools, rather than allowing the Teacher to create a scheme of work which allows for as many interpretations as wanted as long as it's working towards the (non-state) exam.
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #104
It is your own subjective view, and nothing more than that.

Not my subjective view, but facts:


ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #105
Facts cannot be typed in Polish language, it is nonsense.
Alien  24 | 5881
5 Sep 2023   #106
Facts cannot be typed in Polish language,

The facts are russian, only the letters are Polish.
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #107
Facts cannot be typed in Polish language, it is nonsense.

You're writing nonsense now. And I can see that you're not interested in historical facts, the truth and other such "non-RuSSian" stuff :) How typical.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #108
It just proves that the poles and the russians have opposite, irreconcilable views on history. You will never take mine, and i will certainly never stand on your position. That is why only military strength matters. We have it, and you dont. Very simple.
mafketis  38 | 11076
5 Sep 2023   #109
It just proves that the poles and the russians have opposite, irreconcilable views

Stop pitching... you've made the sale! It's not us you need to convince of this, it's Kania....
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #110
You will never take mine, and i will certainly never stand on your position.

So, you will never acknowledge, for example, that NKVD perpetrated the Katyń massacre on the order of Stalin?

That is why only military strength matters.

Wow, that's an Eastern mentality if I see one:

SamiSwoi

We have it, and you dont.

We're working on that :D
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #111
, you will never acknowledge, for example, that NKVD perpetrated the Katyń massacre on the order of Stalin?

Never

We're working on that :D

You are working on your debt. You achieve nothing
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #112
Never

Wow, so you're that kind of a RuSSian - a Katyń-denier. A complete nutjob and a hopeless case then.

You achieve nothing

I see you're "the glass is half empty" kind of a person :D Cheer up, don't be so negative :)))
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #113
Wow, so you're that kind of a RuSSian - a Katyń-denier. A complete nutjob and a hopeless case then.

Why should i support Polish narratives? Katyn was made by nazi germans.

see you're "the glass is half empty" kind of a person :D Cheer up, don't be so negative :)))

You will not succeed. Your military idustry is almost nonexistent, those you have heavily depends on foreign supplies.
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #114
Why should i support Polish narratives?

That's not only "Polish narrative". That's also Putin's narrative :)))

You will not succeed.

Why not? :)))

those you have heavily depends on foreign supplies.

Well, at least, unlike RuSSia, we import stuff from South Korea and the US and not from North Korea and Iran ;D
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #115
Well, at least, unlike RuSSia, we import stuff from South Korea and the US and not from North Korea and Iran ;D

As i have already written it earlier. Russia is importing only dispensable materials like shells. It is a question of industrial capacities. Buying shells is easier and cheaper than building additional plants. You better can spend those money for tank, missile or airplane production.

That's not only "Polish narrative". That's also Putin's narrative :)))

There were times when he tried to be friend with the west. Above all, he is not a historian. He may be well wrong on this issue.
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #116
He may be well wrong on this issue.

Soviet documents are "wrong" too? :))):

theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/28/katyn-massacre-russia-documents-web
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
5 Sep 2023   #117
Soviet documents are "wrong" too? :))):

Just forgery and falsification
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Sep 2023   #118
@ConstantineK, so, are you telling me that Putin ordered to forge and falsify the Soviet documents about the Katyń massacre?? :D 🤦
mafketis  38 | 11076
5 Sep 2023   #120
Soviet documents are "wrong" too? :))):

Isn't it amazing how far russians will go to avoid any kind of responsibility or blame (even when they are not personally involved at all)?

Very infantile and revealing.... (yet Kania loves this culture?)


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