Anniversary of Soviet Invasion

I've seen photos on the internet of unicorns and dinosaurs....

how do you know they were poles waving in the pictures to the soviets? they could be ukrainians or bolsheviks in the east of old poland

...or Belarussians or yet another minority notorious for welcoming the Soviets with flowers and having many communists among them (I shall not name this minority for fear of being called an anti-semite).

I doubt many Poles were waving at Red Army mere 19 years after the Polish-Soviet war.

@Torq
Gee, I wonder why that minority might welcome an army that liberated their people from death camps that were murdering them in their millions, while the ethnic majority group was selling them out to the occupier and eagerly stealing their homes and possessions. It's a big mystery.

This forum is getting better and better ... Welcome Red Army... We have too many Natoholes here...riding on America's wagon...

It's so much fun to watch the needle move in the right direction.

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We were talking about 1939, unregistered retard.

The USSR had exactly the same right to invade Poland as the US to invade Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

If you add up the casualties caused by the Soviets and the US, it's not even close. In this contest, the US wins, but not in a good way.

The difference: the Soviets invaded a country next door as a defensive move.

The US invaded countries 5,000 to 10,000 miles away for THEIR "freedom and democracy". This was sicker than LGBT AIDS.

Hey, you won't hear me complaining about the USSR. Sure, Lwów and Wilno were Polish cultural centres but the areas around them were infested with banderites and samogitians. Untenable in the long run. We got Szczecin, Wrocław and Gdańsk in return--a brilliant deal! Improving our borders in the West was one in a 1000 years chance and thanks to dyadya Stalin we took it. If I was offered the same deal today I would take it again... and again, and again.

As much as many people will hate to admit, Poland after the war, with borders shifted West and ethnically uniform, was better than the one before. Ravaged by war, decimated and deeply hurt, but still better.

Bravo!

Sanity still has a chance on PF.

....while Russia is slowly losing hers....anybody heard what that nutter Lawrow said....Germany trying to overtake Europe again like the Nazis...with what army ffs!

To me, it's deeply troubling when American and German bullets kill Russians.

I am a US citizen and I like Germany, but I cringe when I read about it...

It is still possible to scare people with Germany in Poland. 80 years after the war, after 21 years in the EU, after millions upon millions of Poles have lived, studied and worked in Germany - it is still possible (Kaczyński built his entire political career on this scaremongering). So why are you surprised it is also possible in Russia?

Someone wise once said that one of the first victims of any war is the truth. During war all dirty propaganda tricks will always be used.

.....scaremongering?

Torqi, do Poles feel they want to be be saved by Russia from big bad Germany???

Lawrow sounds like the Kremlin at the beginning of the Ukraine war....always saving Kiev/Europe/the world from the Nazis!

Somehow the same tune that the european Left always sings....Novi, I am disappointed that you fall for them!

No, but it is still possible to persuade them (especially the older generation) that Germany has evil intentions. Do you remember when Kaczyński expressed opposition to Germany stationing Patriot systems in Poland, and it was only after much debate that the PiS government changed course? 80 years after the war, and Kaczyński still tried to exploit the opposition to the presence of German troops in Poland, even when you only tried to help! Never underestimate old grudges and old fears, BB.

No....I just want it to be cleared up....are these fears und grudges against Germans or Nazis?

Because...well....I also don't see why Russians and Poles should not feel the same then, that would make them actually rather good allies as Russia takes care to still keep fighting them Nazis...it's abit puzzling, you know.

Germany forces its interests. As Poland's and Germany's interests often clash, it is clear that many Poles look at Germany with distrust.
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That is their retarded rhetoric and propaganda. Don't compare Russia with Poland; it's pointless.

....everything normal then....


...seems still to find open ears!

Hmm... a difficult question. Did the German women who were raped by Russian soldiers had later fears and grudges against Russians or Communists?


Not that much. If Russia can still exploit old fears and grudges in their propaganda, they will do it. All dirty tricks are used in a war.

.....I wonder truly how an AfD gov, commonly rather at least not hostile towards Moscow, would react to such statements!

I can't imagine that they just smile and hold the other cheek....things could get very quickly go slipping then...

I can't see it either. The mutual relations would definitely deteriorate even further.

But it is not Germany who should worry too much. This time it is Russia who started the war, and it is behind Russia that the stink of this war will drag for decades.

....sadly very probable....

All I know is that Germany would be a better country if it stayed under Soviet occupation till, say, 2020.

No Muslims. White, clean, peaceful, getting all the oil and gas from Russia...No transholes, no green BS...subways like the one in Moscow...

Have you ever been to the GDR? Especially towards the end, it was a country in decay.

Why are you giving attention to a narcissist who'll write any bvllshit imaginable just to get attention?

Starve him. Go radio silence. Ghost him. If everybody did that, he'd get frustrated and go away....

Honestly....

This forum has enough azzholes to serve as magnets and targets.

You are one of them...Not always, but often enough...

Memo to Russia-haters:

Poland survived German occupation. It survived the Soviets, Poland would not survive Muslim invasion like the one in the UK and France. Those two are beyond repair.

The slow death by migrants should never be in an either-or debate with the standard of living.

This won't happen. They don't really want to stay in Poland.