noanit 11 Dec 2011 #1my name is Noa, and i m from israel..i started looking up my family's history and i saw that my grandfather was born in a small town called-Szczebrzeszynie, is there someone here then knows it? and can help me track down family members that are left there maybe? it can be interesting! thanks youlast name is tzitron
Zman 11 Dec 2011 #2It's: Szczebrzeszyn. Google it to find out what it is famous for all over Poland :-). Tzitron must be Citron, by the way.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446 11 Dec 2011 #3CYTRON: from the German word for lemon Zitrone. Only some 15 users left, 11 of them in Upper Sielsia (Katowice region).Szczebrzeszyn is famous for the saying: W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie. It is a nonsense phrase meaning 'In Szczebrzeszyn a beetle is buzzing in the reeds', but it is said to be the hardest to pronoucne for non-Poles.
Zman 11 Dec 2011 #4Nonsense phrase? Somehow for us in Poland that phrase makes all the sense! And it rhymes well too!
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446 12 Dec 2011 #5By nonsense phrase is meant that it does not convey some vital truth or clarify anything. It was chosen solely to illustrate the difficulties many foriegners have with hissing-shishing Polish pronunciation.'Nie pieprz, Pietrze, wieprza pieprzem...' is another well-known Polish tongue-twister..
Zman 13 Dec 2011 #6I beg to differ.... this saying conveys a clear message to me. And the other as well.
rybnik 18 | 1,461 13 Dec 2011 #7It was chosen solely to illustrate the difficulties many foriegners have with hissing-shishing Polish pronunciationIt's also tough for native speakers ;)
Alien 7 | 1,047 24 Oct 2021 #9Szczebrzeszyn; jak mozna tak nazwac miasto? To tak jakby zakazac obcym wymawiac poprawnie nazwe tego miasta. Wiem ze sa takie nazwy miast w Walii w Wielkiej Brytani.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,677 24 Oct 2021 #10SzczebrzeszynI'm trying:"Tschebscheschin" ? Is that correct?
pawian 187 | 17,521 25 Oct 2021 #14"Tschebscheschin"Not yet. Don`t start with T coz it is wrong. Start with sth close to Sch like in Schloss.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,677 25 Oct 2021 #15Schebscheschin?I have to admit that sounds alot softer than the name looks!
pawian 187 | 17,521 25 Oct 2021 #16Schebscheschin?No. I said you should start with Sch like in Schloss, but then you need to pronunce cz like tsch.So, it is Schtschebscheschin.
pawian 187 | 17,521 25 Oct 2021 #18I'll stay withSo you will never impress a Pole with a native-like pronunciation. :):)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,677 25 Oct 2021 #19....*sighs*....oh well....maybe I should try harder....but I really like how that sounds...
pawian 187 | 17,521 25 Oct 2021 #20but I really like how that sounds...As a German, you should strive for perfection, not fun! Never forget about it!!! Work hard first, play later. Otherwise, you will lose your identity.
pawian 187 | 17,521 25 Oct 2021 #22Yes, Germans are known for accuracy which leads to perfection. So, think of this pronunciation of Szczebrzeszyn in the context of Ordnung muss sein and you will skip those childish dreams of speaking as you like and begin practising to achieve a perfect ordnung.
Novichok 3 | 6,510 26 Oct 2021 #24SzczebrzeszynI don't see where all that excitment is about Szczebrzeszyn. Brzmi is a lot worse as it craves more vowels.
gumishu 11 | 5,990 26 Oct 2021 #25it craves more vowels.if you need more vowels just ask Czechs: they have famously a phrase: 'prst skrz krk' that makes perfect sense in their language
Alien 7 | 1,047 26 Oct 2021 #26It is like rebranding of "Dänisches Bettenlager" to JYSK lately in Germany. What the hell ist JYSK?
jon357 69 | 19,502 26 Oct 2021 #27What the hell is JYSK?It's a Danish company. The name Jysk means "from Jutland".We have them here in Poland too. It's a good shop for moderately priced stuff like bedding and garden furniture. The firm's original name was Jysk Sengetøjslager, however for a few years the German shops were called something else for ease of pronunciation.SzczebrzeszynPowiat Łękołody...
Novichok 3 | 6,510 26 Oct 2021 #29Even the English alphabet is superior. Amazing...An alphabet without those idiotic dots, slashes, tails,...just a through z. Wow!
pawian 187 | 17,521 26 Oct 2021 #30Even the English alphabet is superior.Simple doesn`t always mean superior. Or yes, it does, but only for simpletons who aren`t able to grasp a wider perspective. :):):)