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Searching for Wincenty Dec born 1888 - emigrated to Argentina 1929


dread47 1 | 5
11 Jul 2011 #1
My wife’s Grandfather, Wincenty Dec born 1888 in Brzoza Krolewska Poland, arrived in Buenos Aires, Argentina in 1929. Travelling with him to Argentina were Michal Szast and Michal Kosina. Wincenty and his companions left wives and families behind in Poland. Wincenty had intended to return home. In 1939 he was about to buy a ticket home but was advised against it by the travel agent because war in Poland was about to break out. He never returned to Poland. He wrote letters home on a regular basis up until 1953.

Messrs Dec, Szast and Kosina seem to have disappeared in Argentina. The families and ancestors of each have tried to find information about their lives in Argentina but without any luck. Letters were sent to the men from Poland many years back but no replies were received. The letters were not returned as undeliverable.

Online records concerning immigration into Argentina, passenger lists of ships arriving in Argentina and such like seem to be almost non-existent.
Can anyone direct me to an organization which can help me trace my Grandfather’s movements in Argentina?
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384
11 Jul 2011 #2
the folk at rootschat.co.uk might be able to help with things argentina. but you'll have to look for the correct board/threads.

have you been to genealogy.com and similar sites.

Online records concerning immigration into Argentina, passenger lists of ships arriving in Argentina and such like seem to be almost non-existent.

they may have gone to the usa first

also, check ship's records for those who left Poland. usually through Hamburg.
OP dread47 1 | 5
12 Jul 2011 #3
Thanks. I have tried looking through Hamburg passenger lists on ancestry.com but after 1913 they are not indexed/transribed. So its tough to find specific people. I have looked at passenger lists etc into USA for 1929 but no records appear. I believe we posted something on roots chat but thus far no results.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
12 Jul 2011 #4
DEC: hypocoristic (pet) form of Dionizy (English: Dennis)

SZAST: rustling sound (of a loose-fitting garment) or spendthrift

KOSINA: diminutive of kosa (scythe) = small, dinky, miserable excuse for a scythe; ground-hugging plant; toponymic nick from Kosina or Kosina.
OP dread47 1 | 5
12 Jul 2011 #5
Via cemla.com, found Michal Kosina arriving Buenos Aires on passenger ship called Darro on Jan 1, 1929. And found Michal Szast arriving Buenos Aires on Jan 2, 1929 on ship called Alcantara. Both embarked in Cherbourg. No sign of Wincenty Dec though.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384
12 Jul 2011 #6
Travelling with him to Argentina were Michal Szast and Michal Kosina.

we now know this is doubtful

because.

Michal Kosina arriving Buenos Aires on passenger ship called Darro on Jan 1, 1929. And found Michal Szast arriving Buenos Aires on Jan 2, 1929 on ship called Alcantara

i'd check all records for a month either side of Jan 1/2.

you may have to use a few spelling variations.
OP dread47 1 | 5
13 Jul 2011 #7
Tried wide dates search and spelling variations (althouth Michal Kosina and Michal Szast spelled correctly) via cemla.com (possibly world's slowest website). No sign of Wincenty Dec. We know he was in Argentina. The family received letters from him from there.
fornal33 - | 1
13 Oct 2011 #8
On this page I accidentally. I am looking for family from my grandmother Marianna Dec,her dad and my great grandad Wincenty Dec ((born 1888 in Brzoza Krolewska Poland, arrived in Buenos Aires, Argentina in 1929).
OP dread47 1 | 5
28 Oct 2011 #9
Sorry for the delayed response. I have not been back to this site for a while. Are you saying that your great Grandad was called Wincenty Dec and that he was born in 1888 in Brzoza Krolewska Poland and arrived in Buenos Aires, Argentina in 1929? do you live in Argentina?

We finally found Wincenty Dec on cemla.com. His name was mis-spelled "Wicenty". He arrived in Buenos Aires on December 12, 1929 on board a ship called Alcantara. We would now like to find out where he went in Argentina, where he lived, etc. Can anyone offer any guidance?
Farop 3 | 16
31 Aug 2012 #10
I live in Argentina. Maybe I can help.
OP dread47 1 | 5
6 Sep 2012 #11
Thanks. Any ideas how one can find out where he went after he arrived in Argentina? I see that there is an Immigration museum in Buenos Aires which used to be the Immigrants Hotel where people would stay immediately after arriving. However, I also see that this place has been closed for the last two years. So any suggestions how one can track Wincenty Dec movements in Argentina after December 12, 1929?
Farop 3 | 16
10 Sep 2012 #12
No idea XD.

I was just hoping you'd tell me what to do and i'd cover the err logistics... since im here. Maybe you could figure which places should I visit and what to ask?
LindaWoskalos - | 11
3 Jun 2014 #13
Merged: Found my family "Guras" in Poland

For those who are looking for old documents or to build the family tree I will widely recommend a guy that helped me a lot.

We know how frustrating is not finding help so here is the story:

Guras family from Wielkopolska ran away to US and Argentina in the first world war. The families never contacted again, names changed and even the Polish Embassy gave a document confirming the no existence of my relatives...

After 10 years of trying trough the Embassy, genealogy websites and 2 migration consultants I got to Antonio Castaneda, a guy that went personally to the local churches and the real state registries and found information about the grand-father. Thanks to this he created a new birth certificate, needed for recovering the nationality and making the whole family tree...

Cost and time?... he went 3 times to the civil registries and send me the original birth certificate , everything for 500Euros, I don't think was too much. It took him about 3 months because in the Real State registry required a sing from my side.

Here is his contact if someone needs local support Antonio Castaneda "office@castaneda.com.pl"

The guy is not asking for a consultancy fee so you can write questions and not paying him. He only will ask you to recommend him if the case works, so I am here doing it ( I just came to Poland to visit again my new family!)

Good luck guys
Peter 3 | 248
4 Apr 2022 #14
Merged:

Anyone Here With Family or Contacts In Argentina?



Hi,
Trying without any success to find a cousin who migrated to Argentina in the late 1940's, married and had I think 2 daughters. Is there anyone who lives in Argentina or knows someone who lives there? I want to find out if the family surname appears in any telephone directories.

Thanks!


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