Neugebauer surname in Poland / Nestor, Zurawel, Worobec, Atamanczuk in Galicia Poland

Anyone have any information on people with the surname Neugebauer who immigrated from most likely Bavaria or Austria to Poland during the late 1800s or early 1900s?

There was someone in the interwar government of Poland by that last name:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieczyslaw_Norwid-Neugebauer

NEUGEBAUER: German or Yiddish (Askhenazy) name for a (largely unwelcome) new settler, newcomer or outsider.

One of my ancestors had the name Neagebauer and she apparently was asked to sign some kind of document that stated she was loyal to Germany or something along those lines. Does that outrule the possibility that she was Jewish?

It's not a jewish name....Jews weren't farmers...I don't know any Jew with the name of Neubauer/Neugebauer.


What makes you say "unwelcome"?
The name just states a fact: "neuer Bauer (new farmer) - Neubauer/Neugebauer"


noz.de/lokales/osnabrueck/artikel/318085/ein-nee-ist-kein-nein-name-bezeichnet-neuling

I did some research on the name and it mentioned that it can be Ashkenazic but like you said it's unusual for a Jew to have that name for the fact that Jews weren't farmers.

With that said, Adolf Neubauer who was a rabbinical scholar in Britain, was a Jew.

I also know a guy in college who has the last name Neugebauer and he's Jewish.

It's because German Aristocrats were responsible for giving surnames to Jews. Some Jews ended up with some silly sounding ones because of that. Neubauer was probably assigned to a Jew by a King or Prince a couple hundred years ago. It doesn't mean that Jews farmed, it was just a random surname someone picked out of the wishing well.

Probably a mix...married into non-jewish new farmers (some centuries back)! ;)
Not all "-steins" for example are purely jewish nowadays either...


No it wasn't!
As during the middle ages second names were needed to differentiate between the people, professions, characteristics or origins and locations were used...not randomly assigned.

About the origin of jewish names:

That was for Germans, but Jews were different. Some of them ended up with names like Greenbaum or something Finkel (I forget the first part) because a German gave them a random surname. I read about it online. I was wondering why some Jews had strange sounding German surnames that didn't sound like they had much to do with Judaism, names like Goldberg, so I did some research.

Read the link above...it's quite interesting...

The fact is that in most traditional tight-knit communities where everyone knew everyone else and everything about him an outsider moving in was viewed with both curiosity and suspicion. Naturally, after a few generations the initial odium subsided, and Nowak, Novak, Neumann or Newman became simply a surname with no special connotation.

As for Jewish names, most any German or Slavonic name coudl have been used by Jews, but certain ones were their favourites.
See also: ancestry.com/facts/Neubauer-name-meaning.ashx

Neugebauer: German and Jewish (Ashkenazic) variant of Neubauer.
German: epithet for a settler who was new to an area, from Middle High German niu(we) 'new' + (ge)bure 'settler', 'resident', 'peasant' (see Bauer).

Jewish: either an adoption of the German surname (Jews were not usually agricultural workers at the time when surnames were acquired) or an artificial creation of a name from the German vocabulary word without any relationship to the actual occupation of the first Jewish bearer.

Hi and Shalom to all

My name is Moshe Zwi Neu I was born ( and live) in Israel. My Fatherly Grand father was Moshe Zwi NEUGEBAUER. The family lived in

ULANOW Galizia they were Chassidim. No one of my father's family survived. I know that " Neugebauer" was common between Jews in Austria

Galizia by that time was part of Austro-Hungry Monarchy. Im desperatly looking for any person who is related to the extended Neugebauer family.
So far me and my brother Zeev ( usa) are the only survivers of my father's family. Please contact me also by<moshn2002@yahoo> Thanks

Merged: Family Neusen or Neisen or Neizen from Ulanow Galizia Poland

I am searching for people around the world to whom the following family name sounds somehow familiar;
The name in Gernan "letters" will be Neusen or Neussen. But it is possible that in Polish letters it will be
Neizen or Neisen. The family lived in ULANOW Galizia, Until WW 1 it was part of the Austrian Empire and
later part of Poland. Therefore the names were spelled once in German spelling and than in polish spelling.
Any information will be highly appreciated THANKS
<moshn2002@yahoo>

@moshe Zwi
Have you thought of doing your DNA through ancestry.com or familytreedna.com and then uploading your DNA to GedMatch? Once you do that you can cross reference to everyone in the GEdmatch system who has similiar DNA by generations.

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Looking for Nestor, Zurawel, Worobec, Atamanczuk in Galicia Poland

Looking for family with these names. I've done DNA and can match via GedMatch ID.
Ruthenian/Rusyn/Lemko's. Nestor was from Banycja Village in the Golice District.

@moshe .Zwi
It won't let me email you. 99% sure That is my family!! Can't believe I found this. There could be a connection here
Email me: rachelnicolebrower@gmail

@Ogien, it doesn't. She may have either posed as a German to survive or (God forbid) been a self hater and a kapo.

Good news, good news

Rumors in Serbia says that Poland seek to join with Hungary and Serbia becoming that way normal country again, out of schizophrenic frenzy servitude to western Europe. Masters of Poland would get finger in the eye if not even in very dark place.

You meant in Siberia. 🤭

Why Siberia?

This time, thanks to Serbians and Hungarians, Poland would be on the right side of history. No way we let Poland impale itself on the dick of destine.

You can`t get rid of such old traditions which in Poland go back to the Middle Ages........:):):) Aka 10th century AD.....

Let me tell you the truth - most patriotic Poles/Polesses will never give up our bond with the West. It is pure love at the first sight. Even if it is unrequited at times. hahahaha
We are fekking Western Slavs and will remain so until Doomsday. Ha!

If I was malicious, I would tell you that you are wasting time. But I am not so I won`t. Ha!!!!

Today`s Poles don`t know their own history. If you do, you would know that Serbians and particularly Nemanic dynasty that was originally Catholic (same as most of the Serbians back in 11-12th century) are those that influenced Poland more then entire western Europe. Much much more then Rome itself. Even later, when Nemanic dynasty took Orthodoxy (dragging most of the Serbs in it) because of too strong of papal pressure, strong bonds between Polish-Serbian nobility and people continued. Nemaics heavily intermarried with Polish Piast dynasty. Jadwiga itself was of Serbian imperial origin (only ever emperor/magnate house in Europe crowned by western and eastern Churches). Bonds were so strong that Serbs were military elite of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, even after the Nemanic era and fall of the Empire due to Ottoman invasion, after Kosovo battle 1389. Then, even Serbian despotate (prior to final occupation by Ottomans) until 1460, contained ties with Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Zawisha Czarny died defending Serbian despotate.

BDW, Polish-Serbian ties origin in time immemorial, from before Christian era. From the cooperation over amber trade route, source of Sarmatian ie Slavic economic power until Romans destroyed it and re-directed money flow on the line Rome-Paris-Londres of Romano Brits.

So, West to ancestors of Poles were Serbians. We were west to all of Europe. Our magnates were richest continental magnates. After fall of the Serbian Empire started long night of Poland and subjugation to the Rome and the west of Europe.

Only two words in reply: wasting time. :):):)
Additional two words in post reply mode: thank you. :):):)

Dick of destine will awake the Poles.

Crow you are crazy, but I love you nevertheless...

Hahahahaha

Brate, ti si istinska legenda foruma. 😁

I am a mere servant to ancestors and to children that yet to come.

We, too!!!

To give picture to those who seek to know facts. Prior to Ottoman invasion Europe had four mega cities. Only four true mega cities. First was Constantinople. Far far first. Then Rome. Then Novo Brdo in Serbian Empire and then London. To understand Europe prior to Ottoman era and to be able to grasp lines of wealth and power, one must know this.

But crucial thing, what most people in Europe simple don`t know (because winners write the history), is next fact. Medieval Serbian state was richest state in Europe and Serbian magnates richest single persons in Europe. Far richest. Serbia was continental European mining power, having plenty of gold and silver mines. Mines of dye, etc. Gold from Serbia dictated value of the gold in entire Europe.

Knowing it one can understand that Serbians were the most numerous Slavs prior to Ottoman invasion. Even now, Serbians are most numerous ethnicity on Balkan, with Serbia having now around 8 mil people and with at least 15 mil Serbs living i neighboring countries. Plus, numerous diaspora in far countries.

To all of this add fact that Serbia represent worlds largest archeological site, where traces of civilization in continuity goes back for more then 40.000 years. This is also the place where first European civilization was born. First writing in the world.