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nincompoop_not  2 | 192
25 May 2010   #391
Anyone seen this stamp?

google :)

israelpost.co.il/Mall.nsf/8E74C813D2940A87C225765300460B46/$file/poland_l.gif

original painting by Juliusz Kossak: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berek_Joselewicz
Harry
25 May 2010   #392
One of the more interesting episoded was the creation or attempted creation of Hussars of Israel by Adam Mickiewicz. There is little information on this but if anyone finds some, please post it.

Isn't that what killed him?
POLENGGGs  2 | 150
29 May 2010   #393
Heh, I always knew that Ashenazi Jews are so smart because of Slavic genes ;)

in a previous post you said that Jews pride themselves on 'genetic purity' .
You do not make sense.
zetigrek
29 May 2010   #394
It seems they dont... Read the thread I've linked (post by Solomon), and get the joke!
POLENGGGs  2 | 150
29 May 2010   #395
oh, that meant to be a joke? I thought it is just their way of being, ie. different/strange to others .
zetigrek
29 May 2010   #396
"heh" means "hehe", "haha", " ;D "

I thought it is just their way of being, ie. different/strange to others .

I dont quite follow you...
nincompoop_not  2 | 192
29 May 2010   #397
palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=15943

Sand is the author of a book called "The Invention of the Jewish People", and a proponent of the belief that today's Jews are the descendants of different global populations who converted to Judaism over the ages, rather than the offspring of an exiled Hebrew nation.

inventionofthejewishpeople.com/2010/04/haaretz-on-shlomo-sand-and-what-it-means-to-be-jewish/#more-597

If the US had not blocked East European immigration from the 1920s onwards, it is highly questionable whether the state of Israel would ever have been founded. This merciless closing of the gates continued, as is well-known, before and after the Second World War and thus caused great suffering to the victims of the Nazi regime. It was much easier to compel the Arab population in Palestine to accept these miserable strangers that Europe had expelled rather than to receive them in the US. The majority of immigrants from Soviet Russia in the 1980s would also have preferred to emigrate to the West, but the State of Israel pressured the American president to help prevent such anti-patriotic tendencies. Eventually, these immigrants were obliged to land in Israel.

(Shlomo Sand)

inventionofthejewishpeople.com/2009/11/shlomo-sand-responds-to-simon-schamas-review-in-the-financial-times/
Seanus  15 | 19666
30 May 2010   #398
For all those who think that I'm anti-Semitic, think again. I wear my sideburns like a Jew (almost) and agree with much of what they say. are but two videos where I support the speakers. I really identify with Rabbis and how they see many things. They defend the Old Testament and are not so different.

God Bless many innocent and insightful Jews and down with the Zionists. Yehudi, step up to the plate :)
Miguel Colombia  - | 351
30 May 2010   #399
I wear my sideburns like a Jew

HAH!

How old are you, Seanus?
Seanus  15 | 19666
31 May 2010   #400
I'm 32 :) Well, they don't curl upwards but they are long. Maybe more like Elvis :)
1jola  14 | 1875
31 May 2010   #401
They are lovely!

m

Hey, have you been drinking Żubrówka? You don't eat the straw; it's not tequilla.
yehudi  1 | 433
31 May 2010   #402
Yehudi, step up to the plate

I'll oblige.

For all those who think that I'm anti-Semitic, think again.

I don't think you're anti-semitic. I think you have very superficial knowledge about Jews, our history and you get most of your information about Israel from biased sources. You have a lot of assumptions about jews that are based on stereotypes. To be fair, I know very little about Scotland and its history, but then I don't give my opinions on Scottish affairs.

God Bless many innocent and insightful Jews and down with the Zionists.

Why would G-d be against Zionism? His prophets predicted our return to Israel more than 2000 years ago.
Seanus  15 | 19666
31 May 2010   #403
OK, thanks :)

Well, I haven't read so widely on it, right enough. I get my information from video presentations too.

So you believe in fate and destiny more other material factors? Did he legislate on the Palestinian equation? ;) ;) Those damn Philistines ;) ;)
1jola  14 | 1875
31 May 2010   #404
His prophets predicted our return to Israel more than 2000 years ago.

Have certain conditions not been fulfilled for this return? What to make of this Orthodox Jewish branch that opposes Zionism? Are they that wrong?
yehudi  1 | 433
31 May 2010   #405
It's not clear what the conditions are. It would include repentance for having done idol-worship. Since we haven't touched the stuff since ancient times, I think that's been fulfilled. I think the main condition is that as soon as the geo-political situation made it possible for us to return en masse, we did.

I am also Orthodox. Most of the Orthodox groups that opposed zionism before the war changed their minds since then. Now it's a very small minority that opposes it actively. Their reasons are totally religious and have nothing to do with anyone's human rights. They see the zionist movement as a rebellion against the exile decreed by G-d. They have no doubt about our eventual right to the land, but they want to keep it in the realm of a supernatural messianic age. In my eyes, they are like a hostage who has been imprisoned so long that he is afraid to leave captivity and believes he is meant to stay like that.
Seanus  15 | 19666
31 May 2010   #406
To what extent do the decisions of parties like Likud impact upon religious freedoms, yehudi? Are they completely separate or?
yehudi  1 | 433
31 May 2010   #407
To what extent do the decisions of parties like Likud impact upon religious freedoms,

They don't impact at all on religious freedoms. People here can follow whatever religion they like. Likud is politically center-right, but it includes both religious and secular people.
1jola  14 | 1875
31 May 2010   #408
Their reasons are totally religious and have nothing to do with anyone's human rights.

Yes, I understand. I understood that the return was to follow the Messiah, the Temple and there was something else. I might be wrong on that though. Another time perhaps.
Rogalski  5 | 94
1 Jun 2010   #409
Seanus:I wear my sideburns like a Jew (almost)

I now have the following image of Seanus in my mind's eye ...


  • seanus.jpg
Seanus  15 | 19666
1 Jun 2010   #410
I don't really look so different, tbh. I don't need a makeover to look like him :)
MareGaea  29 | 2751
1 Jun 2010   #411
I can see Seanus coming dressed up like that to the PF meeting with the likes of Sokrates, 1jola, Jarnowa and JoePilsudski present, would be an interesting confrontation.

:))

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
Seanus  15 | 19666
1 Jun 2010   #412
L'Chayim to that :) A big Shalom :) It would be rather strange and I wonder if a Scotsman would receive anti-Semitic comments ;)
MareGaea  29 | 2751
1 Jun 2010   #413
They'd probably think you're me :)))

Edit: Shalom gajes Sokrates, Shalom gajes Jola, we are all brothers, come dance to Hava Nagheila with me. Grin.

:)

>^..^<

M-G (shalom)
Seanus  15 | 19666
1 Jun 2010   #414
B'Ezrat Ha Shem, I like this phrase. Yiddish seems to be close to Arabic on occasion and more to German. Shem, what a good man he was :)
MareGaea  29 | 2751
2 Jun 2010   #415
He was indeed :) But I'm gonna go have a shave and then off to the sack for a few hours sleep as I am working again, slowly, but surely, old M-G is on his way back. Back to the front. May the sjuge be with you :)

>^..^<

M-G (good night)
yehudi  1 | 433
2 Jun 2010   #416
B'Ezrat Ha Shem, I like this phrase. Yiddish seems to be close to Arabic on occasion and more to German. Shem, what a good man he was :)

A few technical corrections:
B'ezrat Hashem is Hebrew, not Yiddish. It means "with G-d's help".

The word Hashem means literally "the name" and it refers to G-d whose name we don't say or write. It has nothing to do with Shem the son of Noah.

Hebrew is close to Arabic, but Yiddish, which is based on German, has nothing to do with Arabic. It uses Hebrew loan words but is not a semitic language at all.
Seanus  15 | 19666
2 Jun 2010   #417
Just out of interest, yehudi, why don't you write God like most other people do? I don't want to cause an affront to you by writing the word with 'o'. It's not taking the Lord's name in vain, nor is it using lower case to disrespect the great one!!

Boker tov! Thanks for the info, btw. Toda :) Ma nishma?
richasis  1 | 409
2 Jun 2010   #418
[Yiddish] is not a semitic language at all.

Just like the 'Jews' who speak it aren't.
1jola  14 | 1875
2 Jun 2010   #419
Not that I need to answer for Yehudi, but: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism
Seanus  15 | 19666
2 Jun 2010   #420
The intention is not to disrespect and I don't think writing the full name is disrespectful per se. The actions of Israelites during God's instruction were far worse ;) ;) Moses got off lightly ;) ;)


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